# Lost 5.8 "LaFleur" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-8-lafleur/488302 "2009-03-04T18:55:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-8-lafleur/488302/161 "2009-03-07T18:29:17Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > Actually, Miles was in the van with Sawyer when they were heading out to bring Horace back from his drunken campaign against the trees. > I’m under the impression that the Lamppost station already exists. Hawking seemed to imply that this was how Dharma found the island in the first place. And perhaps it also must be used to plan the sub’s mainland trips? Well, every time someone turns the wheel they get sent back at a different time. So far we’ve only seen them get sent to the future, but it could send them to the past. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-8-lafleur/488302/162 "2009-03-07T18:46:32Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > Sometime in the future, a drunken Horace will steal the statue as a prank. It will end up in a compromising position with the submarine, before it eventually sinks into the bay. Nah, Peter stole it for Quagmire. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-8-lafleur/488302/163 "2009-03-07T20:33:27Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Well, every time someone turns the wheel they get sent back at a different time. So far we’ve only seen them get sent to the future, but it could send them to the past. Ah, so another time loop then – the idea being that Daniel goes back to build the Lamppost, so that Dharma can find the island and thus be there to be able to send Daniel back to build the Lamppost, so that… Ow. My nose is bleeding again. Anybody want to start up a betting pool on which character will end up being their own Grandpa? ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-8-lafleur/488302/164 "2009-03-07T21:15:34Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > Actually, Miles was in the van with Sawyer when they were heading out to bring Horace back from his drunken campaign against the trees. He was in a van in Dharmatown, I’d say I was close enough. ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-8-lafleur/488302/165 "2009-03-07T22:24:51Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > According to Lostpedia, Olivia is his wife (or was, perhaps). But according to IMDB, they just listed her as “Olivia the Teacher”. Anybody remember if it was Olivia that was in the car with Horace when he pulled over and helped Ben’s dad when Ben was born?. The ABC Lost recap lists her as Olivia Goodspeed, although the episode itself doesn’t mention her last name. She was in the car with Horace when he meets Ben’s parents and she’s on the island as a teacher. At some point, maybe not this episode, I forget, we see a wedding ring on a finger I think. Which led to certain assumptions. Also, the “pop up” version of Cabin Fever said > [@](#): > > We saw Horace in Ben’s Season 3 backstory > in “The Man Behind the Curtain.” > Horace and his wife helped Roger and Emily Linus > when Emily went into early labor with Ben. I think the real story is that she was intended to be his wife, but this was never explicitly stated in the show, so when the actress couldn’t come back they replaced the character. They’ll probably retcon her as his sister or friend. ---
**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-8-lafleur/488302/166 "2009-03-13T02:04:58Z")
From the enhanced version: the statue we saw in LaFleur is the source of the four-toed foot we saw before. Also, they note that Locke turned the wheel to get it back on it’s axis in order to stop the time jumps. I find this interesting because they seem to be backing away from “the 6 left and caused the time jumps, so we have to bring them back to stop the jumps.” ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-8-lafleur/488302/167 "2009-03-13T03:00:04Z")
> [@Gfactor](#): > > Locke turned the wheel to get it back on it’s axis in order to stop the time jumps. I find this interesting because they seem to be backing away from “the 6 left and caused the time jumps, so we have to bring them back to stop the jumps.” We already knew this, no? The jumps stopped three years before the 6 came back. Juliet even mentioned it. I imagine there’s more to the 6 coming back then just stopping the jumps. Probably has to do with the “war” that is coming. ---
**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-8-lafleur/488302/168 "2009-03-13T03:05:12Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > We already knew this, no? The jumps stopped three years before the 6 came back. Juliet even mentioned it. I imagine there’s more to the 6 coming back then just stopping the jumps. Probably has to do with the “war” that is coming. Yes. There were inconsistent statements made, but Juliet makes the point explicit in the scene by the sub. I just found it surprisng that they put it that way in the pop-ups. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-8-lafleur/488302.md?page=8)