# Lost 5.9 "Namaste" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 18, 2009, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-9-namaste/489913 "2009-03-18T18:05:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-9-namaste/489913/61 "2009-03-19T15:30:38Z")
> [@Gfactor](#): > > Ethan! Continuity problem though. If he was born in 1977, then he’d have only been 27 when season 1 happened. That guy definitely looked older than 27. I wonder when they’ll explain why women used to be able to conceive and give birth just fine, and now can’t. ---
**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-9-namaste/489913/62 "2009-03-19T15:31:53Z")
RE: Ben’s sling, didn’t he have that from the ass-whuppin’ he got a couple episodes back? ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-9-namaste/489913/63 "2009-03-19T15:32:14Z")
> [@Trion](#): > > So, Kate and Sawyer really _were_ building a runway back when they were on the Other’s chain gang. I wonder if it’ll turn out that Ben required that as an adult, because he remembered learning of its existence while he was still a kid. ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-9-namaste/489913/64 "2009-03-19T15:33:00Z")
Unless I missed something, we don’t know what happened to Locke’s body. Did he slip back to the 70s? Will he walk again? ---
**Author:** ![Shark\_Sandwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shark\_Sandwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shark_Sandwich)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-9-namaste/489913/65 "2009-03-19T15:36:06Z")
> [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](#): > > Unless I missed something, we don’t know what happened to Locke’s body. Did he slip back to the 70s? Will he walk again? Locke’s alive and well, and walking on the smaller island off the main island. He’s with Caesar’s group, so I’m assuming he’s following the “present day” timeline. He’s probably the key that Sun and Ben need to get back to '77. ---
**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-9-namaste/489913/66 "2009-03-19T15:40:01Z")
> [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](#): > > Unless I missed something, we don’t know what happened to Locke’s body. Did he slip back to the 70s? Will he walk again? He was resurrected in the “present.” He landed on Alcatraz with Lapidus, Sun, Ben, et al. He can walk. ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-9-namaste/489913/67 "2009-03-19T15:42:25Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > … > I added that Ben’s headwounds (presumably from Sun’s bashing) didn’t seem to be healing at a miraculous rate, given his appearance in the ‘wounded ward’ an episode or two ago. Then I asked who it was that had been taken to see Ben… Can someone refresh my memory as to what this is about? I don’t remember that scene (Ben in “wounded ward’”) at all. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-9-namaste/489913/68 "2009-03-19T15:43:53Z")
> [@fiddlesticks](#): > > There is no confirmation yet, but strong evidence points to Miles being Marvin Candle/Edgar Haliwax/Dr. Chang’s baby son who we saw in the season premiere before the “incident” at the Orchid (Marvin got a nosebleed during the flashes). We know that must have happened before 1977 because Faraday is apparently gone at that point. So island doubles are possible, it would seem. If nothing else, we know that island doubles are possible because Sawyer watched Kate and Claire in the jungle. There was no time that those two were on the island that Sawyer wasn’t. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-9-namaste/489913/69 "2009-03-19T15:46:54Z")
> [@Mama\_Zappa](#): > > Can someone refresh my memory as to what this is about? I don’t remember that scene (Ben in “wounded ward’”) at all. In the “Locke fails to convince anyone to come back to the island and then is going to kill himself but then Ben changes his mind but then Locke mentions Daniel’s mother and then Ben strangles him with an extension cord” aka “The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham” Locke wakes up on the beach after the crash, talks with Ceasar, and ends up looking at the wounded from the crash. One of them is Ben who, we now know, got his ass whacked with an oar by Sun. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-9-namaste/489913/70 "2009-03-19T15:50:32Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > One of them is Ben who, we now know, got his ass whacked with an oar by Sun. > > -Joe I didn’t make that connection until someone else mentioned it in the thread. ---
**Author:** ![2nd\_Law](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/f475e1/32.png) [@2nd\_Law](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2nd_Law)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-9-namaste/489913/71 "2009-03-19T16:00:33Z")
> [@borschevsky](#): > > Except there was that “Thirty Years Earlier” shown when the show went from the plane to the Dharma people. When Hurley, Jack, and Kate met Sawyer, he said it was 1977. At the begining of the scene, the caption read “30 years earlier.” Does this mean the plane crash with Caesar, dead Locke, et al, are now in 2007, or did someone goof up the script? ---
**Author:** ![Keweenaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/da6949/32.png) [@Keweenaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Keweenaw)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-9-namaste/489913/72 "2009-03-19T16:02:30Z")
Who was in the room with Sun, Lapidus, and Christian Shepard when he was showing them the 1977 Darmha new recruits photo? ---
**Author:** ![Shark\_Sandwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shark\_Sandwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shark_Sandwich)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-9-namaste/489913/73 "2009-03-19T16:02:46Z")
I’m still hung up on the runway. Obviously someone, Ben probably, knew they were going to need a runway in the future, so they started clearing it in 2004 for Ben to use in 2007 (ensuring his “safe” landing?). But that means Ben got a peek into the future, right? That or Jacob told them to build the runway, and didn’t give an explanation. ::sigh:: I’m going to have to start watching the episodes again to see if I can pick up on anything. ---
**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-9-namaste/489913/74 "2009-03-19T16:09:18Z")
> [@2nd\_Law](#): > > When Hurley, Jack, and Kate met Sawyer, he said it was 1977. At the begining of the scene, the caption read “30 years earlier.” Does this mean the plane crash with Caesar, dead Locke, et al, are now in 2007, or did someone goof up the script? Yes, Locke and company are in the show’s present day, which is somewhere around late 2007/early 2008. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-9-namaste/489913/75 "2009-03-19T16:12:46Z")
> [@Offkenter](#): > > Don’t ask. It’s complicated. “We’re trapped on a tropical isle, and we have nothing but time as we do this long cross-island trek. So go ahead, I’m listening”.😛 ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-9-namaste/489913/76 "2009-03-19T16:17:41Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > “We’re trapped on a tropical isle, and we have nothing but time as we do this long cross-island trek. So go ahead, I’m listening”.😛 Well, sure, but then the cut to commercial. See, the Lostaways ARE talking. They’re just doing it when we can’t see them! -Joe ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-9-namaste/489913/77 "2009-03-19T16:42:42Z")
Man, I feel fucking old. I woulda never guessed that Sun is younger than me (albeit just one year younger - she was 24 when they first crashed). I guess smart business attire makes any woman look mature. I also woulda never guessed that Miles is older than Sun. Younger than me, yes. Older than Sun (so as to be a baby in the “Candlewick” scenes/videos)…no. Carry on. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-9-namaste/489913/78 "2009-03-19T17:52:51Z")
> [@Dogzilla](#): > > I think our Losties will be directly involved in the purge. Ben will manipulate them all into helping him, so they’ll live through it as well. They _have_ to, because otherwise they wouldn’t show up in the 2004-2007 story lines. That’s not true. The 2004-2007 events are in their past. Already done. They could die in 1977 and it wouldn’t change anything about 2004-2007. > [@Fenris](#): > > I was honestly a bit disappointed in this ep. I was hoping to get more on the Dharma Initiative actual…Initiative. What they’re doing. What’re they up to? Who’s funding them? Why? and not so much of the Jack/Kate/Sawyer stuff. Last episode I thought to myself “Well, Sawyer and crew were Dharma for 3 years. They must’ve learned a ton about Dharma, the island, and the others. I wonder how the writers are going to keep any of that from every coming up.” I was expecting something like: Jack: “So… uh… explain everything that you’ve learned in the last 3 years” Sawyer: “Well, okay…” [explosion in background, hectic action occurs, question is never brought up again]. The scene where Jack finds his way to Sawyer’s house (good job, by the way, dumbasses, hugging in the middle of the open - that wouldn’t look strange at all for a new recruit) - Sawyer and Jack are alone and able to talk as much as they want to. So what happens? Sawyer says “something I can help you with, Jack?” as if he had no idea what Jack might want. So yeah, the characters had alone time with each other, with massive amounts of info that Sawyer could share that Jack could want, and none of it was shared. The characters have become so retarded by this point that I spend half the episode rolling my eyes. ---
**Author:** ![Meltdown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Meltdown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meltdown)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-9-namaste/489913/79 "2009-03-19T18:02:25Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > So yeah, the characters had alone time with each other, with massive amounts of info that Sawyer could share that Jack could want, and none of it was shared. The characters have become so retarded by this point that I spend half the episode rolling my eyes. I actually kind of bought this. Remember, this was moments after Jack discovered that Sawyer and Juliet were apparently living together. That must have brought back all of his (Jack’s) jealousy and rivalrous feelings toward Sawyer all over again. Yes, I know Jack and Juliet weren’t ever officially a couple, but they were heading in that direction before Jack left the island. From Jack’s perspective, Sawyer keeps taking his girls. While mature people may be able to put this stuff aside, we know Jack is far from mature. Immature, yes. Retarded, not so much. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-9-namaste/489913/80 "2009-03-19T18:06:55Z")
Well - I can accept that as an explanation if tomorrow, or the next day, they sit down and discuss everything Sawyer has learned. But the chances of that are pretty small. The characters on the show have always been implausibly uncommunicative, but right now it’s just such a ridiculous degree. Their motivations are illogical or non-existant, they’re just idiot boxes on two legs that walk from scene to scene. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-9-namaste/489913.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-9-namaste/489913.md?page=5)