# LOST 6.11 "Happily Ever After"

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-11-happily-ever-after/535170
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [April 6, 2010, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-11-happily-ever-after/535170 "2010-04-06T17:47:24Z")
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### Author: ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2010, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-11-happily-ever-after/535170/1 "2010-04-06T17:47:24Z")

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Desmond is back on the island. Richard is back with Team Jacob. And I’m not convinced that the episode title is entirely acurate. Join me in eyeing it suspiciously as we prepare for tonight’s “Lost”.

Episode Summary for tonight:

Desmond wakes up and realizes he is back on the island.

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**Here are some interesting external links:**

[The Tail Section](http://www.thetailsection.com/): Excellent site for still frame photos of key scenes, along with some good analysis. But… beware of spoilers!

[Sledgeweb’s Lost… Stuff](http://lost.cubit.net/): Pretty good site, but again beware of spoilers. I use it mainly for the Timeline section, which is an incredibly detailed breakdown of “how long since…?” for almost anything you can think of (pre- and post-plane crash).

[Door Map from Episode 2.17](http://www.thetailsection.com/uploaded_images/cleanwall-707484.jpg). A nicely cleaned up version of the diagram Locke saw while pinned under the lockdown doors. No spoilers.

[Lostpedia](http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Main_Page): The wikipedia of Lost information. Quite a comprehensive site, but beware of spoilers!

[ThEmIsFiTiShErE](http://themisfitishere.blogspot.com/): The Misfit offers his whacky commentary on “Lost”. Is he a nut-case or a clever insider? Careful, though, possible spoilers.

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### Author: ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2010, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-11-happily-ever-after/535170/2 "2010-04-06T17:49:53Z")

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Can someone please remind me where we last saw Desmond? I am drawing a complete mental blank on this. I know he’s been AWOL for most of the season, but where was he prior to that?

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### Author: ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2010, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-11-happily-ever-after/535170/3 "2010-04-06T17:54:33Z")

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> [@MsWhatsit](#):
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> Can someone please remind me where we last saw Desmond? I am drawing a complete mental blank on this. I know he’s been AWOL for most of the season, but where was he prior to that?

IIRC, he walked out of the Lighthouse station as the O6 planned their flight back to the island.

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### Author: ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2010, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-11-happily-ever-after/535170/4 "2010-04-06T18:06:54Z")

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> [@MsWhatsit](#):
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> Can someone please remind me where we last saw Desmond? I am drawing a complete mental blank on this. I know he’s been AWOL for most of the season, but where was he prior to that?

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> IIRC, he walked out of the Lighthouse station as the O6 planned their flight back to the island.

Scratch that. Looking at Lostpedia…

Desmond was looking for Faraday’s mother and went to Widmore, who told him she’s in LA. He and Penny agree to go to LA despite Widmore’s warning to go back into hiding. The LA address is the church with the Lamp Post Station under it. He lectures Faraday’s mom, Eloise, about wasting his life, and walks out. The next day, Ben shoots him at the marina, but Desmond tosses Ben overboard. Desmond goes to the hospital and promises never to leave Penny again.

Desmond then appears at the submarine.

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### Author: ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2010, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-11-happily-ever-after/535170/5 "2010-04-06T18:08:13Z")

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Ah yes, OK - I remember the hospital scene, but wasn’t sure if there had been something after that. Thanks!

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### Author: ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2010, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-11-happily-ever-after/535170/6 "2010-04-06T18:10:02Z")

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I don’t get the skepticism about the title - it seems straightforward enough. I look forward to seeing all the plot threads resolved tonight, the characters going on to live happy lives, and the remainder of the season produced as a sitcom set in the LA metro area.

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### Author: ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2010, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-11-happily-ever-after/535170/7 "2010-04-06T18:13:03Z")

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> [@Mr.Excellent](#):
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> I don’t get the skepticism about the title - it seems straightforward enough. I look forward to seeing all the plot threads resolved tonight, the characters going on to live happy lives, and the remainder of the season produced as a sitcom set in the LA metro area.

Sitcom? Please. We’re going with a Miles/Sawer buddy/cop show with Faraday as the scientific consultant and Hurley as Huggy-bear.

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### Author: ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2010, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-11-happily-ever-after/535170/8 "2010-04-06T18:14:59Z")

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> [@Trion](#):
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> Sitcom? Please. We’re going with a Miles/Sawer buddy/cop show with Faraday as the scientific consultant and Hurley as Huggy-bear.

I stand corrected. 🙂

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### Author: ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2010, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-11-happily-ever-after/535170/9 "2010-04-06T18:15:43Z")

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> [@Mr.Excellent](#):
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> I don’t get the skepticism about the title - it seems straightforward enough. I look forward to seeing all the plot threads resolved tonight, the characters going on to live happy lives, and the remainder of the season produced as a sitcom set in the LA metro area.

Maybe Jack will rent an apartment in Santa Monica with Kate and Claire, but Jack will have to pretend to be gay to appease the suspicious and cantankerous landlord.

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### Author: ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2010, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-11-happily-ever-after/535170/10 "2010-04-06T18:31:49Z")

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> [@Bearflag70](#):
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> Maybe Jack will rent an apartment in Santa Monica with Kate and Claire, but Jack will have to pretend to be gay to appease the suspicious and cantankerous landlord.

And that landlord, of course, will be John Locke. Or maybe a memory-wiped Ben Linus.

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> [@Mr.Excellent](#):
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> And that landlord, of course, will be John Locke. Or maybe a memory-wiped Ben Linus.

Would the horndog best friend living upstairs be Richard Alpert? Seems a better choice than Charlie Pace.

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### Author: ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)
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> [@Bearflag70](#):
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> IIRC, he walked out of the Lighthouse station as the O6 planned their flight back to the island.

Desmond was also briefly seen aboard Oceanic Flight 815 in the sideways world, but seemed to have disappeared when Jack came back to sit down.

Very intriguing.

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### Author: ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)
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> [@Mr.Excellent](#):
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> And that landlord, of course, will be John Locke. Or maybe a memory-wiped Ben Linus.

Nope, Ben & John are both high school teachers. With that wacky Artz over in the science wing. (Ka boom!)

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#### Post date: [April 6, 2010, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-11-happily-ever-after/535170/14 "2010-04-06T19:30:18Z")

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Glad it’s a Desmond episode…one of my favorite characters. I’m hoping this episode ends with an actual answer about how and why he’s there though. I feel like it’s too late in the series to be opening up more questions.

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### Author: ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2010, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-11-happily-ever-after/535170/15 "2010-04-06T19:48:09Z")

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> [@Trion](#):
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> Sitcom? Please. We’re going with a Miles/Sawer buddy/cop show with Faraday as the scientific consultant and Hurley as Huggy-bear.

I would sooo watch that.

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### Author: ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)
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> [@Trion](#):
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> Sitcom? Please. We’re going with a Miles/Sawer buddy/cop show with Faraday as the scientific consultant and Hurley as Huggy-bear.

I would not only watch this, I’d build a Hurley-as-Huggy Bear shrine in my background.

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### Author: ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2010, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-11-happily-ever-after/535170/17 "2010-04-06T21:13:26Z")

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Locke would have to be the tough as nails Captain who always threatens to take away the detectives’ badges, yet has their back when the sleazy Police Chief, played by Ben Linus, brings the heat.

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#### Post date: [April 6, 2010, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-11-happily-ever-after/535170/18 "2010-04-06T21:20:38Z")

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Ana Lucia would be the tough-talking hawttie who is secretly sensitive on the inside.

Sayid would be the shadowy criminal mastermind who is always 2 steps ahead of our intrepid crime fighters.

Jin would be murdered before the credits. Sun is the main suspect. She is exonerated twenty seconds before the closing credits when it is learned that her Dad killed Jin because of sheer cussedness.

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### Author: ![deedeeknowit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@deedeeknowit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deedeeknowit)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2010, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-11-happily-ever-after/535170/19 "2010-04-06T22:04:02Z")

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> [@Trion](#):
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> Sitcom? Please. We’re going with a Miles/Sawer buddy/cop show with Faraday as the scientific consultant and Hurley as Huggy-bear.

I’m all for that show!

Where do I sign up?

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### Author: ![Winston\_Bongo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a9adbd/32.png) [@Winston\_Bongo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Bongo)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2010, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-11-happily-ever-after/535170/20 "2010-04-06T22:30:07Z")

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Juliet would be the forensics expert they always go to for CSI-type stuff, and of course there’d be lots of innuendo/sexual tension between her and Sawyer. Followed by sarcastic comments from Miles, of course.

Kate would guest star in an episode as the murderer – but one who gains sympathy from Sawyer because her victim was a total SOB who deserved it. Miles, of course, would not fall for her shenanigans. At the end, Sawyer would figure out a way to let her escape. Miles and Locke would suspect he was responsible, but have no way to prove it, so they drop the investigation. At least until next season, when Kate turns up yet again, under unexpected circumstances. Uh-oh!

Wow, this show practically writes itself!

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