# LOST 6.12 "Everybody Loves Hugo" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 13, 2010, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966 "2010-04-13T17:47:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/1 "2010-04-13T17:47:18Z")
Mouseover spoiler space. Both Desmond and his alternate universe counterpart seem to have some idea what’s going on. Which means one person knows more than everyone else combined, times two. And one of those has gone off with evil Sayid to evil Locke’s camp. Tonight it looks like we have a Hurley episode based on the title alone. Yay! Episode Summary for tonight: Hurley agonizes over what the group’s next move should be; Locke is curious about the new arrival in his camp. * * * **Thread Rules** > [@](#): > > Information about all episodes aired to this point – including the current week – will be unboxed. > Information about this week’s episode’s “next week” teasers will be unboxed. > Information about future episodes taken from spoiler sites/inside sources, including Podcasts, will be boxed. 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for Season 6:[1 & 2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=550483) [3](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=551476) [4](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=552432) [5](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=553409) [6](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=554323) [7](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=555241) [8](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=556063) [9](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=556937) [10](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=557828) [11](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=558690) [The Official Lost Jargon Thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=286221) Official “Lost” Questions Thread[Season 1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=284542), [Season 2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=336040), [Season 3](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=390739) **Here are some interesting external links:** [The Tail Section](http://www.thetailsection.com/): Excellent site for still frame photos of key scenes, along with some good analysis. But… beware of spoilers! [Sledgeweb’s Lost… Stuff](http://lost.cubit.net/): Pretty good site, but again beware of spoilers. I use it mainly for the Timeline section, which is an incredibly detailed breakdown of “how long since…?” for almost anything you can think of (pre- and post-plane crash). [Door Map from Episode 2.17](http://www.thetailsection.com/uploaded_images/cleanwall-707484.jpg). A nicely cleaned up version of the diagram Locke saw while pinned under the lockdown doors. No spoilers. [Lostpedia](http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Main_Page): The wikipedia of Lost information. Quite a comprehensive site, but beware of spoilers! [ThEmIsFiTiShErE](http://themisfitishere.blogspot.com/): The Misfit offers his whacky commentary on “Lost”. Is he a nut-case or a clever insider? Careful, though, possible spoilers. ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/2 "2010-04-13T18:06:18Z")
Is that line about Desmond being the only one who knows what’s going on yours? It cracked me up. ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/3 "2010-04-13T18:41:02Z")
> [@middleman](#): > > Is that line about Desmond being the only one who knows what’s going on yours? It cracked me up. That’s all mine. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Arcite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/67e7ee/32.png) [@Arcite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arcite)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/4 "2010-04-13T21:41:29Z")
I predict that there will be no answers in tonight’s episode. ---
**Author:** ![Winston\_Bongo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a9adbd/32.png) [@Winston\_Bongo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Bongo)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/5 "2010-04-13T22:13:45Z")
I predict we will get 25 minutes of an amusing but unnecessary Hurley ALT story, interspersed with 10 minutes of on-Island business culminating in Hurley talking to Dead Michael and Dead Libby, which may or may not provide something in the way of actual story progression, and a bit over 5 minutes where Desmond meets Smocke and they have an aggravatingly vague conversation alluding to their plans but giving no specifics. Also, I imagine Enlightened ALT Desmond will show up at the end of the ALT Hurley story to recruit him into the we-have-to-escape-the-Matrix team. Which ought to be interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/6 "2010-04-13T22:35:52Z")
BUT…we _might_ get more insight into The Numbers. Or not. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/7 "2010-04-13T22:53:11Z")
I thought the numbers were pretty much explained back in season…3? 4? I wouldn’t bet on getting any more info, though who knows? ---
**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/8 "2010-04-13T23:13:55Z")
I don’t even care about answers anymore, honestly. I’m just enjoying the show. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/9 "2010-04-13T23:38:29Z")
> [@Winston\_Bongo](#): > > I predict we will get 25 minutes of an amusing but unnecessary Hurley ALT story, interspersed with 10 minutes of on-Island business culminating in Hurley talking to Dead Michael and Dead Libby, which may or may not provide something in the way of actual story progression, and a bit over 5 minutes where Desmond meets Smocke and they have an aggravatingly vague conversation alluding to their plans but giving no specifics. I’m guessing well see… Libby in the Alt Hurley time line. They’ll be married. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/10 "2010-04-14T00:03:41Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > I thought the numbers were pretty much explained back in season…3? 4? I wouldn’t bet on getting any more info, though who knows? Two big questions (that’ll never be answered) remain. 1. Ok, the numbers have to do with the number of years before humanity blows itself up. So why do they cause bad luck to people around those who know The Numbers? What stops the bad luck? It does stop eventually. 2. Who, exactly, was broadcasting the numbers? (It was either Dharma, the US Army or…well, someone else before the Crazy French Chick changed the recording.) _WHY_ were they broadcasting The Numbers? What did they hope to accomplish? I have no (zero!) hope that either will be answered, but honestly, they’re the one “minor” mystery that really fascinates me. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/11 "2010-04-14T00:41:49Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > 1. Ok, the numbers have to do with the number of years before humanity blows itself up. They do? ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/12 "2010-04-14T00:54:39Z")
Yeah…it was in the off-show stuff. Remember the guy in the pilot who got sucked into the plane engine? He wrote a book called the Vanzetti(?) Equation. Some guy (Vanzetti) figured out that these numbers represent the time humanity has left before extinction. The Dharma guys were trying to change things–that was their ultimate goal. It wasn’t just a bunch of hippies screwing around, it was a bunch of hippies trying to change the Vanzetti(?) Equation. ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/13 "2010-04-14T01:07:57Z")
A Hugo Retrospective! lol Wow everything in the alt-verse resolves around either Jack’s hospital or that museum… ---
**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/14 "2010-04-14T01:13:27Z")
OMFG Boom !!! I know you don’t want to believe to Michael, Hurley, but I have a feeling he’s right!!! ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/15 "2010-04-14T01:13:41Z")
Holy shades of Arzt! ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/16 "2010-04-14T01:18:11Z")
Dude. Ka-BOOOM. ## Don’t argue with Hurley. Loony Libby in the side-flashes remembers Hugo – but was he ever in the nuthouse in that timeline? Probably not. Which means she remembers him from the island timeline (but pre-island) – some more crossover here. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/17 "2010-04-14T01:19:17Z")
> [@jackdavinci](#): > > Holy shades of Arzt! OK–hate to ask but what blew up? (Or, judging by the Artz reference, who)… I’m ashamed to say I glanced down at this discussion on my laptop, and missed it! ---
**Author:** ![Winston\_Bongo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a9adbd/32.png) [@Winston\_Bongo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Bongo)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/18 "2010-04-14T01:19:32Z")
About 5 seconds before that happened, I suddenly got a very bad feeling. It was like, "Oh shit, oh no, don’t tell me they’re gonna actually do it ag–" **BOOOOOM!!** That was just evil. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/19 "2010-04-14T01:20:47Z")
Ilana: “I’ve been preparing to blow up for my country/island all my life” They should have thought ahead and had RICHARD carry the dynamite. Or Jack. We’ve already seen that they can’t blow themselves up with it. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/20 "2010-04-14T01:26:18Z")
## Does Desmond really think MIB/Smokey is John Locke? Hahahahaha – Hurley played them. He agreed, so that he could blow up all the dynamite – along with the Black Rock. sweeeeet. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966.md?page=2)