# LOST 6.12 "Everybody Loves Hugo" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 13, 2010, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966 "2010-04-13T17:47:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/41 "2010-04-14T02:00:20Z")
Jack looks like he’s about to crap his pants – seeing fake Locke ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/42 "2010-04-14T02:02:52Z")
I thought these were Hurley’s ALT timeline side-flashes. Why are we suddenly on Desmond and Locke in sideways universe? And Desmond just ran ALT Locke over! ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/43 "2010-04-14T02:03:00Z")
Nice usage of the creepy boat tunnel song from “Charlie and the Chocolate Factory” over the promo for next week! ---
**Author:** ![Meltdown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Meltdown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meltdown)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/44 "2010-04-14T02:05:08Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > Nice usage of the creepy boat tunnel song from “Charlie and the Chocolate Factory” over the promo for next week! Thank you! I was trying to figure out where I had heard that before. ---
**Author:** ![Arcite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/67e7ee/32.png) [@Arcite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arcite)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/45 "2010-04-14T02:11:46Z")
If they really wanted to contrast alt-timeline successful Hurley with original Hurley, they would have made the former thin. That would be a great way to prove that they had everything planned out: film all the on-island scenes first, then make Jorge Garcia drop 200 pounds, then film the alt-timeline scenes. Flocke is a James Bond villain redux. “I intend to kill you. Now, I could just stab you while you’re tied up, but instead I’ll take you on a walk through the jungle, give you a speech, and throw you down a well.” ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/46 "2010-04-14T02:14:19Z")
Seriously, why the hell did Desmond hit Locke with a car? Is he trying to re-create “original timeline” circumstances for everyone? And if so, how does he know what he’s supposed to do? ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Credible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a8b319/32.png) [@Justin\_Credible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Credible)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/47 "2010-04-14T02:19:24Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > Seriously, why the hell did Desmond hit Locke with a car? Is he trying to re-create “original timeline” circumstances for everyone? And if so, how does he know what he’s supposed to do? I think he’s trying to get Locke and Jack to meet. Jack will certainly be the one to fix Locke up. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Credible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a8b319/32.png) [@Justin\_Credible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Credible)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/48 "2010-04-14T02:20:36Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > Jack looks like he’s about to crap his pants – seeing fake Locke I forget, has Jack seen Fake Locke before now? ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_Prize](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d2c977/32.png) [@Sir\_Prize](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_Prize)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/49 "2010-04-14T02:21:10Z")
I knew Desmond was going to be pushed down the well the moment they got there but I didn’t see that hit and run at all. Did Desmond ever meet Ben on the island? If he remembered him it must have been hard not to give it away. I think I know what hospital they are going to take Locke to. Seems like everyone who died remembers the island in the alt universe but Locke. Dr. Martin what’s his name looks really good 33 years later. ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/50 "2010-04-14T02:21:12Z")
What does it mean, “…people that can’t move on.”? How can that be scientific? It sounds kinda’ spiritual to me. And speaking of which, how do numbers bring luck? Good or bad? That’s like saying that continue brings realm. Or assure brings binder. I thought everything was going to be explained in realistic terms. This season seems to be more about giving past cast members one more paycheck than explaining the show’s mysteries. I’m betting now it all ends up being that they’re all dead, trapped in a way station between heaven and hell, just like I, and a lot of other people thought, (and the producers poo-pooed) after the first few episodes of the very first season. ---
**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/51 "2010-04-14T02:23:49Z")
No - it’s first time Jack’s seen resurrected Locke ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Credible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a8b319/32.png) [@Justin\_Credible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Credible)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/52 "2010-04-14T02:28:26Z")
> [@randwill](#): > > What does it mean, “…people that can’t move on.”? How can that be scientific? It sounds kinda’ spiritual to me. > > And speaking of which, how do numbers bring luck? Good or bad? That’s like saying that continue brings realm. Or assure brings binder. > > I thought everything was going to be explained in realistic terms. This season seems to be more about giving past cast members one more paycheck than explaining the show’s mysteries. > > I’m betting now it all ends up being that they’re all dead, trapped in a way station between heaven and hell, just like I, and a lot of other people thought, (and the producers poo-pooed) after the first few episodes of the very first season. But they left the island. Unless that was all in their minds. And checking Lostpedia, Ben and Desmond have apparently met at some point. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/53 "2010-04-14T02:28:54Z")
> [@well\_he\_s\_back](#): > > No - it’s first time Jack’s seen resurrected Locke Well, it can’t be that much of a shock. They said they were going to see Locke, didn’t they? ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Credible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a8b319/32.png) [@Justin\_Credible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Credible)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/54 "2010-04-14T02:33:16Z")
> [@Justin\_Credible](#): > > But they left the island. Unless that was all in their minds. > > And checking Lostpedia, Ben and Desmond have apparently met at some point. Oh wait, Ben shot Desmond. And Desmond beat the crap out of him. Yeah…it must have been tough to just sit there in the car like that. ---
**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/55 "2010-04-14T02:34:39Z")
Well last time Jack saw LOCKE he was in a casket, right? You see someone alive that you thought was dead, it freaks you out a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/56 "2010-04-14T02:50:16Z")
> [@Justin\_Credible](#): > > Oh wait, Ben shot Desmond. And Desmond beat the crap out of him. Yeah…it must have been tough to just sit there in the car like that. If he remember everything. I’m wondering if he does. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/57 "2010-04-14T02:59:43Z")
> [@Rushgeekgirl](#): > > Well last time Jack saw LOCKE he was in a casket, right? You see someone alive that you thought was dead, it freaks you out a bit. Well, since he arrived, he saw his Dad. He’s seen others before and everyone has talked about how the smoke monster is “Locke” now. So, surprised, but not blown away. By the way, it was cool to see the Black Rock blow up. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/58 "2010-04-14T03:07:16Z")
> [@randwill](#): > > What does it mean, “…people that can’t move on.”? How can that be scientific? It sounds kinda’ spiritual to me. I think I’ve asked this in the last three topics (and still haven’t gotten an answer), but when did the writers ever say there would be a scientific explanation to everything? It keeps getting mentioned, but I can’t find anything like that from Lindelof and Cuse. ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/59 "2010-04-14T03:26:59Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > I think I’ve asked this in the last three topics (and still haven’t gotten an answer), but when did the writers ever say there would be a scientific explanation to everything? It keeps getting mentioned, but I can’t find anything like that from Lindelof and Cuse. I’m afraid that falls into the, ‘I don’t have a cite, but I swear I read it somewhere’ category. But, for me anyway, it’s beside the point. The whole hook of “Lost” was that all this strange and mysterious stuff has been happening and I can’t wait to find out how, what and why. So if it turns out that, hey, this is a strange and mysterious island, so _that’s_ why all this weird shit has been happening, it’ll be kind of a let-down don’t you think? ---
**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966/60 "2010-04-14T03:42:48Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > I think I’ve asked this in the last three topics (and still haven’t gotten an answer), but when did the writers ever say there would be a scientific explanation to everything? It keeps getting mentioned, but I can’t find anything like that from Lindelof and Cuse. Actually, they said: > [@](#): > > How important is it for you to get the science right? > CC: The science needs to be right enough that we kind of create a sense of believability to the story telling. > DL: We function on Jurassic Park rules, which are, if you can convince me that a mosquito can bite a dinosaur and then get preserved in amber, and that the DNA will not degrade over all that period of time, then you can show me a cloned dinosaur and I won’t call it a science-fiction movie. And, you know, we try to do the same thing on the show. If something highly unlikely occurs, we try to offer up some grounding in the actual physical world that we understand in an effort to explain it—except in the case of things that don’t potentially have a scientific explanation, which is where the show begins to go into its own territory. > CC: But we’re always trying to skirt that line between the two possible explanations, the scientific one or a mythical and magical one, and we are purposefully ambiguous about which one might be correct. Obviously, certain things fall into the science category and certain things fall more into the mystical category, and that just sort of depends on what story we’re telling that week. > **[On 'Star Trek Discovery,' Time Travel Gets Muddy](https://www.popularmechanics.com/culture/tv/news/a28823/star-trek-discovery-episode-7-magic-to-make-the-sanest-man-go-mad/)** > > Even in Discovery's most light-hearted episode, our favorite characters die again...and again...and again. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-12-everybody-loves-hugo/535966.md?page=4)