# LOST 6.15 "Across the Sea"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-15-across-the-sea/539072>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 11, 2010, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-15-across-the-sea/539072 "2010-05-11T17:45:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-15-across-the-sea/539072/321 "2010-05-21T08:04:03Z")

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> [@Apos](#):
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> I don’t remember it being white, or any evidence of it being white. But you do, apparently. Thus, the writers are inconsistent and hate america, because why would Sayid light _black_ smoke in Season 2? It makes no sense! The producers can’t even decide what color smoke is!

Not much for actually reading the thread, eh?

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**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-15-across-the-sea/539072/322 "2010-05-21T11:28:43Z")

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_I’ve_ read the whole thread, and find myself thoroughly confused by the exchange between **Apos** and **Ellis Dee**.

SOMEBODY is whooshing ol’ **middleman** …I just don’t know who…

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-15-across-the-sea/539072/323 "2010-05-21T12:00:36Z")

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One (two) more major questions for me:

1a) Who (Jacob/MIB/Other) healed Locke? Why? Why was the healing revoked around the time of him trying to get into the Hatch (or thereabouts–it may have been after the opening of the Hatch). Again…whoever did it…_why_ did they do it? What were they trying to get Locke to do.

1b) Who kept Ben tumor-free? Why did they change their mind? It doesn’t make sense if it’s Jacob: he didn’t like, trust or want Ben around (per the conversation right before Ben murdered Jacob)…so who was responsible for Ben’s tumor.

1. The Others (with orders from Ben who got them through Richard who got them through Jacob) murdered (on camera and in cold blood) a _ton_ of tailies and middle-section people. Why? What was Jacob’s motivation.

This isn’t stuff like Dharma (which was/is a powerful organization with unlimited funds and global resources, not a bunch of hippies) that’s (sadly) been handwaved away, this is central to the now main focus of Jacob/MIB: who was doing what to who and why?

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-15-across-the-sea/539072/324 "2010-05-21T13:53:22Z")

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> [@middleman](#):
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> _I’ve_ read the whole thread, and find myself thoroughly confused by the exchange between **Apos** and **Ellis Dee**.
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> SOMEBODY is whooshing ol’ **middleman** …I just don’t know who…

Well, there’s someone whose default position is “it sucks!”, and then that person lists a whole bunch of completely, factually incorrect reasons as to why it sucks. The other guy is correcting him.

You know that part where William Wallace started shooting lightning bolts out of his arse? TOTALLY WRECKED THE MOVIE!!! The writer of that movie was so goddamned incompetent. Are we supposed to believe that he had asbestos ass hair? ASBESTOS WASN’T EVEN INVENTED YET!

-Joe

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