# LOST 6.16 "What They Died For" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 18, 2010, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-16-what-they-died-for/539915 "2010-05-18T17:30:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-16-what-they-died-for/539915/21 "2010-05-18T23:23:10Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Richard is relevant? šŸ˜‰ Sure, because he disappeared into the woods with Miles to get some grenadesā€¦and he hasnā€™t been back since. Iā€™m expecting a Charge of the Light brigade here. But with grenades. I just hope Miles makes it. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-16-what-they-died-for/539915/22 "2010-05-18T23:25:58Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > Well, if it makes you feel any better, I thought it was funny, because I remembered you being the one who ran the LOST threads the first couple of seasons. šŸ˜ƒ I was hoping my lack of street cred as a \*Lost \*newbie would be overlooked. Guess I better keep my day job. ---
**Author:** ![JerseyMarine2092](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8491ac/32.png) [@JerseyMarine2092](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JerseyMarine2092)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-16-what-they-died-for/539915/23 "2010-05-18T23:28:02Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > Sure, because he disappeared into the woods with Miles to get some grenadesā€¦and he hasnā€™t been back since. Iā€™m expecting a Charge of the Light brigade here. But with grenades. I just hope Miles makes it. > > -Joe If he doesnā€™t the ethnic cleansing of the Island will be complete. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-16-what-they-died-for/539915/24 "2010-05-19T01:06:44Z")
I guess Desmond is trying to get them all in one location in the ATL. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-16-what-they-died-for/539915/25 "2010-05-19T01:31:23Z")
Me to MrWhatsit: You know what would be funny right now? If the smoke monster came and ate Richard and Ben. Five seconds later: The smoke monster ate Richard. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-16-what-they-died-for/539915/26 "2010-05-19T01:40:57Z")
Did Richard die for sure then? ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-16-what-they-died-for/539915/27 "2010-05-19T01:41:44Z")
Unknown, actually. I was just rather taken aback that my joke turned accurate so quickly. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-16-what-they-died-for/539915/28 "2010-05-19T01:41:49Z")
Iā€™m glad that Ben has become a bad guy again. Itā€™s about damn time. ---
**Author:** ![Shark\_Sandwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shark\_Sandwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shark_Sandwich)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-16-what-they-died-for/539915/29 "2010-05-19T01:48:56Z")
My head is spinning. ANSWERS! ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-16-what-they-died-for/539915/30 "2010-05-19T01:51:32Z")
That was rather suddenā€¦ ā€œYou must protect the mysterious light in the middle of the island.ā€ ā€œIā€™ll do it.ā€ Anybody going to ask why the light needs to be protected? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-16-what-they-died-for/539915/31 "2010-05-19T02:14:29Z")
> [@Shark\_Sandwich](#): > > My head is spinning. ANSWERS! Sort of. Yeah, Iā€™m glad they showed Jacob explaining some things to them without pushing it to the finale. So, can Jack teleport and change form? Can he move off island, like Jacob could? ---
**Author:** ![brickbacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@brickbacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brickbacon)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-16-what-they-died-for/539915/32 "2010-05-19T02:35:43Z")
If Ben could kill Widmore, why didnā€™t he do it before when they were off the island? ---
**Author:** ![Bootis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@Bootis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootis)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-16-what-they-died-for/539915/33 "2010-05-19T02:43:20Z")
> [@brickbacon](#): > > If Ben could kill Widmore, why didnā€™t he do it before when they were off the island? One reason is he certainly wanted Widmore to have to experience losing his daughter. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-16-what-they-died-for/539915/34 "2010-05-19T02:48:20Z")
Any theories as to what Desmond is planning to do in the alternate timeline? Also, it seemed like Hurley had a lot of his island memory back on the alternate timeline. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-16-what-they-died-for/539915/35 "2010-05-19T03:07:44Z")
Maybe the longer the ATL characters have been ā€œawakenedā€ the more they remember? Really, at this point, Iā€™m just along for the final ride. Weā€™ll all get to see the hand theyā€™ve been playing come Sunday. ---
**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-16-what-they-died-for/539915/36 "2010-05-19T03:08:22Z")
I think Des will have them all meet up at that museum and there will be Mrs. Hawking (Widmore?) to take them back to fix things. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-16-what-they-died-for/539915/37 "2010-05-19T03:15:24Z")
> [@Bootis](#): > > One reason is he certainly wanted Widmore to have to experience losing his daughter. Can anyone find a transcript of the conversation Ben and Charles had that night in Whidmoreā€™s bedroom? I have consistently been unable to locate any information from previous episodes. ---
**Author:** ![ataraxy22](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ataraxy22/32/307_2.png) [@ataraxy22](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ataraxy22)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-16-what-they-died-for/539915/38 "2010-05-19T03:16:59Z")
Maybe Desmond, in his role as fail-safe and option of last resort, is planning to bring the ATL candidates over to the island story timeline in case the candidates there all get killed. (??) ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-16-what-they-died-for/539915/39 "2010-05-19T03:17:39Z")
Are we supposed to know exactly why Desmond is a ā€œfail-safeā€? ---
**Author:** ![Arcite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/67e7ee/32.png) [@Arcite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arcite)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-16-what-they-died-for/539915/40 "2010-05-19T03:29:45Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Can anyone find a transcript of the conversation Ben and Charles had that night in Whidmoreā€™s bedroom? I have consistently been unable to locate any information from previous episodes. > **[The Shape of Things to Come transcript](https://lostpedia.fandom.com/wiki/The_Shape_of_Things_to_Come_transcript)** > > A transcript is a retrospective written record of dialogue, and like a script (a prospective record) may include other scene information such as props or actions. In the case of a transcript of a film or television episode, ideally it is a verbatim... Itā€™s the last scene. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-16-what-they-died-for/539915.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-16-what-they-died-for/539915.md?page=3)