# Lost 6.7 "Dr. Linus"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-7-dr-linus/531891>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 9, 2010, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-7-dr-linus/531891 "2010-03-09T19:02:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2010, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-7-dr-linus/531891/1 "2010-03-09T19:02:13Z")

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Scoreboard:

Team Jacob:  
Jack  
Hurley  
Elana  
Sun  
Team [del]Edward[/del] Smokey:  
Sayid  
Sawyer  
Claire

Kate and Jin are in Smokey’s camp but not on his team (I think). Ben is our wild card. In the last play Smokey made it into the temple and captured the flag. And by “captured the flag” I mean he killed a whole bunch of people.

Episode Summary for tonight:

Ben deals with the consequences of an uncovered lie.

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[The Tail Section](http://www.thetailsection.com/): Excellent site for still frame photos of key scenes, along with some good analysis. But… beware of spoilers!

[Sledgeweb’s Lost… Stuff](http://lost.cubit.net/): Pretty good site, but again beware of spoilers. I use it mainly for the Timeline section, which is an incredibly detailed breakdown of “how long since…?” for almost anything you can think of (pre- and post-plane crash).

[Door Map from Episode 2.17](http://www.thetailsection.com/uploaded_images/cleanwall-707484.jpg). A nicely cleaned up version of the diagram Locke saw while pinned under the lockdown doors. No spoilers.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2010, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-7-dr-linus/531891/2 "2010-03-09T23:01:54Z")

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Just learned this in an interview w/ \*\*Yunjin Kim \*\* (Sun) in NY Mag. It’s something that I hadn’t noticed from the first episodes of the season. If this was obvious to everyone else, I apologize, but I didn’t recall reading it anywhere on here.

When Jin and Sun are going through customs (when Jin gets detained), the customs agent calls Sun by her maiden name, Paik, indicating that Jin and Sun are not married in the flash-sideways.

When asked about this point, Kim said:

They do have a very different relationship. Let’s just put it that way.

Anyone else notice this discrepency between timelines?

[Full interview here.](http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/03/losts_yunjin_kim_on_the_sun-ji.html)

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**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2010, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-7-dr-linus/531891/3 "2010-03-09T23:13:43Z")

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**Hello Ninja** , I had not noticed that!

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**Author:** ![BMada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@BMada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMada)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2010, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-7-dr-linus/531891/4 "2010-03-09T23:44:54Z")

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> [@HelloNinja](#):
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> Just learned this in an interview w/ \*\*Yunjin Kim \*\* (Sun) in NY Mag. It’s something that I hadn’t noticed from the first episodes of the season. If this was obvious to everyone else, I apologize, but I didn’t recall reading it anywhere on here.
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> When Jin and Sun are going through customs (when Jin gets detained), the customs agent calls Sun by her maiden name, Paik, indicating that Jin and Sun are not married in the flash-sideways.
> 
> When asked about this point, Kim said:
> 
> They do have a very different relationship. Let’s just put it that way.
> 
> Anyone else notice this discrepency between timelines?
> 
> [Full interview here.](http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/03/losts_yunjin_kim_on_the_sun-ji.html)

Korean custom is that the female keeps their maiden name, I think I said this somewhere in the previous threads of this season. This usage of Paik isn’t exactly something huge imo. They could probably use it to be.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2010, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-7-dr-linus/531891/5 "2010-03-09T23:48:47Z")

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> [@HelloNinja](#):
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> When Jin and Sun are going through customs (when Jin gets detained), the customs agent calls Sun by her maiden name, Paik, indicating that Jin and Sun are not married in the flash-sideways.

[From Wikipedia:](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Married_and_maiden_names)

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> Korea
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> Korean women do not change their names upon marriage. By name alone, a woman cannot be identified as someone’s wife. Neither are they addressed in a fashion similar to ‘Mrs. (Husband’s family name)’. They are simply addressed by their family name; however, it is more specifically ‘wife of (husband’s family name)’ or '(child’s name)‘s mom’, when the relation has to be known. Women emigrating to cultures where it is customary to take on their husband’s names may choose not to change, especially if they are professionals. However, they may let themselves be addressed as ‘Mrs. (husband’s family name)’ in addition to, for example, ‘Dr. (her maiden name)’.

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-7-dr-linus/531891/6 "2010-03-10T00:00:31Z")

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I think somebody pointed out in the first thread of the season that Sun also wasn’t wearing a wedding ring.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-7-dr-linus/531891/7 "2010-03-10T00:35:59Z")

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> [@woodstockbirdybird](#):
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> I think somebody pointed out in the first thread of the season that Sun also wasn’t wearing a wedding ring.

Was Jin wearing one last week?

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-7-dr-linus/531891/8 "2010-03-10T00:37:37Z")

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In the ATL? Don’t remember. Were his hands tied behind his back?

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**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-7-dr-linus/531891/9 "2010-03-10T00:48:58Z")

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I hope they show us some good Ben backstory tonight.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-7-dr-linus/531891/10 "2010-03-10T01:13:10Z")

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> [@Gfactor](#):
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> I hope they show us some good Ben backstory tonight.

Backstory? Meaning in his sideway world?

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**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-7-dr-linus/531891/11 "2010-03-10T02:12:08Z")

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“How different our lives would have been if we’d stayed”

!!

Alex

!!!

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-7-dr-linus/531891/12 "2010-03-10T02:13:57Z")

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I was just saying to my wife, “So…they did go to the Island, right?”

Of course. Ben and his Dad left the island in the sideway world.

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**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-7-dr-linus/531891/13 "2010-03-10T02:13:58Z")

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Candidates to replace Jacob - only 6 left!

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**Author:** ![Baffle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dec6dc/32.png) [@Baffle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baffle)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-7-dr-linus/531891/14 "2010-03-10T02:15:38Z")

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“He’s also not stalling.”

He’s also not Stalin!

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**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-7-dr-linus/531891/15 "2010-03-10T02:28:53Z")

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I love this episode! Love that Miles can tell about Nikki and what’s his face and the diamonds!  
Oh, and dumb Jacob thought Ben wouldn’t stab him. and Jacob gave Richard a “gift”

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**Author:** ![Achren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@Achren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achren)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-7-dr-linus/531891/16 "2010-03-10T02:33:59Z")

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Sounds like Richard was _on_ the boat.

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**Author:** ![Baffle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dec6dc/32.png) [@Baffle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baffle)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-7-dr-linus/531891/17 "2010-03-10T02:37:33Z")

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> [@Achren](#):
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> Sounds like Richard was _on_ the boat.

I think someone posted that hypothesis on this board a few episodes back.

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-7-dr-linus/531891/18 "2010-03-10T02:47:24Z")

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So what WILL it be, Dr. Linus?

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**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-7-dr-linus/531891/19 "2010-03-10T02:50:45Z")

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Wow - I think Jacob is on the side of good, for sure

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-7-dr-linus/531891/20 "2010-03-10T02:51:51Z")

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> [@well\_he\_s\_back](#):
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> Wow - I think Jacob is on the side of good, for sure

I think so, too.

I guess Jack, Richard, and Ben are on Team Jacob, now.

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