# Lost 9/29 (unboxed spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 30, 2004, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769 "2004-09-30T01:03:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Chastain86](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Chastain86](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chastain86)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/61 "2004-09-30T20:49:03Z")
> [@Airblairxxx](#): > > –The fat guy, Hurley > > –The redneck A-hole, Sawyer > > –The pregnant lady, Claire (thus explaining how she was allowed to fly in the first place) > > –Sayid (aren’t there terrorism watch lists that you’d think would catch a former member of the Iraqi National Guard?) I think we can rule out Sayid and Sawyer. They argued back and forth in Ep2 about how they’d been watching each other the entire flight. Still, wouldn’t surprise me if Hurley is more than he seems… ---
**Author:** ![Airblairxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Airblairxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airblairxxx)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/62 "2004-09-30T21:10:58Z")
> [@Fiver](#): > > The Korean man and woman are NOT married to each other; I’d bet money on that. I’ll take you up on that. And please see the last sentence of my most recent post . . . ---
**Author:** ![Bumbazine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bumbazine/32/362_2.png) [@Bumbazine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bumbazine)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/63 "2004-09-30T21:16:01Z")
I have a question: If you were in the jungle and you knew there was something in the jungle with you that was willing and able to kill you and you discovered that one of your number had a gun, would you take it away from him and disable it? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/64 "2004-09-30T21:18:57Z")
Given how many bullets it took to stop the polar bear, yes. He didn’t mention anything about having any spare clips. Now they know that when something bad comes, _everybody runs._ The planet is weeding the gene pool of stupid people, one plane-wreck at a time. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/65 "2004-09-30T21:20:18Z")
… although actually, that would be pretty funny if he did have another clip or two, because she gave the gun back to him… pause… waiting for 60 seconds to pass… pause… stupid software… pause… ---
**Author:** ![Bumbazine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bumbazine/32/362_2.png) [@Bumbazine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bumbazine)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/66 "2004-09-30T22:43:05Z")
Well we know there was at least one bullet left 'cause we saw her clear it from the chamber, and I personally would have no problem with macho guy holding Big Monster’s attention by shooting at it while _I_ ran. But maybe that’s just me. BTW, that was a pretty big piece to be carried in an _ankle_ holster, and why wouldn’t he have just carried his regular sidearm on his belt? ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/67 "2004-09-30T22:53:19Z")
> [@duality72](#): > > But did Charlie ever actually see the Big Thing? I think he was just making the assumption, correct or not, that it was something big that attacked them before in the woods, this polar bear is something that’s now attacked them in the woods, so this must be a smaller version of what they ran into before. On most shows, that would probably be a safe assumption, but I’m not so sure here. I think you misunderstood me. I wasn’t implying that Charlie knew, I was saying that his statement was a hint by the show’s writers. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/68 "2004-10-01T00:48:30Z")
Posted this in the other thread, reposting here: During the flashback where Kate was handcuffed to the tray table and trying to reach the oxygen mask while the plane was going down, did anybody else see, outside her window, a brief glimpse of snow-capped mountains? Which leads me to this: > [@BubbaDog](#): > > In the first place, it’s a big island. I’m not sure we can say anything about the geography of their landing location other than (a) there’s an ocean beach, (b) there’s a mountain, and (c) there’s a sloping rain forest between (a) and (b). For all we know, it’s a peninsula. Or maybe they fell through a hole in the earth and landed on the inside surface of the hollow globe! Heh. Oh, and there was a question earlier about the “iteration” and the numbers and what that meant. For anyone who’s confused, the number is (according to Said’s hypothesis) a count of the number of times the message has repeated. When the broadcast was first initiated, it would be, “Iteration one. \ Iteration two. \” Now they’re up to "Iteration ninety-seven billion whatever. \ “Iteration ninety-seven billion and one…” That’s how Said estimated its sixteen-year duration. I’m enjoying the mysteries and uncertainties of the show so far, but it’s still in that gray area for me: This could be cool, or this could suck gopher spleen. We won’t know which it is until they start attaching answers to all the questions they’re building up. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/69 "2004-10-01T00:51:21Z")
> [@yellowval](#): > > Am I the only one who thought, “Yay, food!” when they shot the polar bear, only to be disappointed that nobody hurried about trying to figure out how to clean and/or cook it? As weird as it was that there was a polar bear, that’s what I was more concerned about. Didn’t the preview for next week have a scene in which one of the characters tells them they’ll have to hunt for food? Should have eaten the animal you already shot, you morons! There’s good eating on them things. They could also skin it and tan the hide and have themselves a nice polar bear rug. I was at Home Depot today and I heard a couple talking the woman said “Did you see that new show “Lost”?”. The man replied, “is that the one with the dinosaurs?”. I laughed … it had better not be dinosaurs. ---
**Author:** ![barking\_frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@barking\_frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/barking_frog)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/70 "2004-10-01T01:59:00Z")
For those of you betting that the Korean couple aren’t married, they both have bands on their ring fingers, and while it does not confirm that they are married to each other, I’d have to say it’s pretty likely. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/71 "2004-10-01T02:03:21Z")
> [@Ian Fan](#): > > For those of you betting that the Korean couple aren’t married, they both have bands on their ring fingers, and while it does not confirm that they are married to each other, I’d have to say it’s pretty likely. I figured they were most likely married but they don’t seem very loving so it may be an arranged marriage of some sort. ---
**Author:** ![barking\_frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@barking\_frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/barking_frog)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/72 "2004-10-01T02:04:57Z")
> [@yellowval](#): > > Am I the only one who thought, “Yay, food!” when they shot the polar bear, only to be disappointed that nobody hurried about trying to figure out how to clean and/or cook it? As weird as it was that there was a polar bear, that’s what I was more concerned about. Didn’t the preview for next week have a scene in which one of the characters tells them they’ll have to hunt for food? Should have eaten the animal you already shot, you morons! I think at this stage it hasn’t sunk in that they will be on the island for a long time, nor have they been without food so long that “food” would be their first thought after killing a freaking polar bear on a tropical island. Also, more important at that moment was the need to find high ground to use the radio. ---
**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/73 "2004-10-01T02:26:49Z")
Say on the previews for next week, didn’t that one older, black woman say her husband didn’t die in the crash? ---
**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/74 "2004-10-01T03:01:10Z")
> [@eenerms](#): > > Say on the previews for next week, didn’t that one older, black woman say her husband didn’t die in the crash? Yes, but that could mean many things, including (my guess) that she’s in denial. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/75 "2004-10-01T03:38:12Z")
> [@Ian Fan](#): > > I think at this stage it hasn’t sunk in that they will be on the island for a long time, nor have they been without food so long that “food” would be their first thought after killing a freaking polar bear on a tropical island. Also, more important at that moment was the need to find high ground to use the radio. Also that the director was very careful to establish that they only got up to the top of the mountain by going vertically up holding onto vines and roots. They’ll have a hell of time getting themselves down safely, though I’ll bet anything we never see the descent. They also haven’t established the presence of large knives, saws or any cutting tools. Remember that the doctor had to ask around for a blade for the surgery. There certainly aren’t any tools on the top of that mountain. That means to get any meat at all, they’ll have to climb straight down a vertical slope, climb back up again with makeshift tools, and then climb straight down again with hundreds of pounds of meat strapped to their backs. This would take several days, and the meat would spoil in that temperature by then. Fortunately, they’re on the only tropical island in the world with no insect life, so that won’t be any problem. :rolleyes: It ain’t going to happen, and if it does it may be enough to keep me from coming back. Of course, I haven’t figured out yet how the polar bear got to the top of a mountain or is managing to keep its winter coat in a jungle. Maybe the bear is a robot powered by that magical 16-year transmitter source. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/76 "2004-10-01T04:08:04Z")
> [@Exapno Mapcase](#): > > They’ll have a hell of time getting themselves down safely, though I’ll bet anything we never see the descent. > > They also haven’t established the presence of large knives, saws or any cutting tools. Remember that the doctor had to ask around for a blade for the surgery. There certainly aren’t any tools on the top of that mountain. > > That means to get any meat at all, they’ll have to climb straight down a vertical slope, climb back up again with makeshift tools, and then climb straight down again with hundreds of pounds of meat strapped to their backs. They could solve both problems by riding the polar bear cadaver down the hill like a sled. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Silver\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Fire)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/77 "2004-10-01T04:24:39Z")
> [@Chastain86](#): > > I think we can rule out Sayid and Sawyer. They argued back and forth in Ep2 about how they’d been watching each other the entire flight. > > Still, wouldn’t surprise me if Hurley is more than he seems… I keep checking to see which of the characters does **not** have fresh wounds on their bodies/faces. I think Hurley does, just above once eye. So does Terry’s character, IIRC. And the pregnant lady (I think). I’ll have to watch both eps again on Saturday. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/78 "2004-10-01T05:00:14Z")
Does anyone think it’s significant that Walt saw a picture of a giant polar bear in the comic book, and then one appeared on the island? If we’re going with a paranormal scenario here, then maybe people’s fears are manifesting themselves on the island somehow. The giant man-eating tree-crushing thing could be one, the endlessly repeating message could be another, etc. Just a WAG here. Also wanted to mention that whoever cast that kid as Perrineau’s kid did a fantastic job. They really have a resemblance to each other. I have been a fan of Perrineau’s since Luhrmann’s _Romeo + Juliet_, so it’s great to see him have a life after _Oz_. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/79 "2004-10-01T12:22:55Z")
> [@Exapno Mapcase](#): > > Also that the director was very careful to establish that they only got up to the top of the mountain by going vertically up holding onto vines and roots. They’ll have a hell of time getting themselves down safely, though I’ll bet anything we never see the descent. > > They also haven’t established the presence of large knives, saws or any cutting tools. Remember that the doctor had to ask around for a blade for the surgery. There certainly aren’t any tools on the top of that mountain. > > That means to get any meat at all, they’ll have to climb straight down a vertical slope, climb back up again with makeshift tools, and then climb straight down again with hundreds of pounds of meat strapped to their backs. This would take several days, and the meat would spoil in that temperature by then. Fortunately, they’re on the only tropical island in the world with no insect life, so that won’t be any problem. :rolleyes: The bear’s dead and they wouldn’t really be concerned with hurting it, so why not just THROW it down the mountain ahead of them? ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/80 "2004-10-01T12:35:08Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > The bear’s dead and they wouldn’t really be concerned with hurting it, so why not just THROW it down the mountain ahead of them? Well, remember, Toenails didn’t want to eat anything until she got on the rescue boat. So obviously these are not entirely rational people. Plus, you know, there’s a lot of fat in polar bear meat, and maybe they don’t want to lose their figures. Or maybe they thought it would be too gamey. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769.md?page=5)