# Lost 9/29 (unboxed spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 30, 2004, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769 "2004-09-30T01:03:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/121 "2004-10-01T19:56:07Z")
> [@Cuckoorex](#): > > If it _is_ the Island of Random Bears, I hope that they avoid selling out and including Care Bears. I don’t know … if the big-ass monster turns out to be a giant Cheer Bear, that would scare the everloving _shit_ out of me. The Care Bear Stare alone could have been the whole cause of the crash. ---
**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/122 "2004-10-01T20:14:55Z")
What exactly is the problem with wind-powered electricity supposed to be? Am I the only one to watch _[Rough Science](http://www.pbs.org/weta/roughscience/)_? Don’t answer that, I probably am. Anyway, all you need is wire, magnets, and know-how and you can cobble together the rest. Assuming you got there in anything close to a modern vehicle, you’re set for at least some electricity production. As for moving the bear, my opinion as a hunter and physics buff (how’s them for qualifications) is that, no, everyone just grabbing it and dragging won’t work. You can drag a 200 lb. deer because the hind legs make damn good handles; you can wrap your hand around it and pull in a manner that applies a lot of lateral force. Even then, for your average person, that’s going to be pretty arduous over any significant distance. Obviously, the bear’s leg is a bit large for wrapping your hand around. If you must move the bear, I’d want to gut it first; there’s no way they’re desperate enough to want to eat intestines yet, so no use dragging them around. You could also do without the head (unless someone likes brains or tongue), the feet (and maybe the lower leg, not that familiar with bears), and the hide to further lighten the load. At this point, you could do the travois/drag with vines thing, but I’d rather keep cutting and quarter what’s left or more; you’re going to do it anyway to cook it and it’s easier to transport. In fact, I would really prefer to make a fire up by the bear, cook it there, and take back the lighter and better-preserved cooked meat, but then that, and much of the above, depends on the security situation with the Stobor prowling around. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/123 "2004-10-01T20:27:13Z")
> [@Draelin](#): > > I don’t know … if the big-ass monster turns out to be a giant Cheer Bear, that would scare the everloving _shit_ out of me. > > The Care Bear Stare alone could have been the whole cause of the crash. Great. Now my entire cube is covered in Code Red spit. You vile demon! ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Sayid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@Jack\_Sayid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Sayid)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/124 "2004-10-01T20:55:25Z")
Check it out, [photos](http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=thumbnails&album=17) from an upcoming episode (House of the Rising Sun- not next weeks episode). What’s the heck is going on in [this](http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=17&pos=26) picture? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Sayid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@Jack\_Sayid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Sayid)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/125 "2004-10-01T20:57:48Z")
Wait, I just figured it out by looking at a previous picture. :smack: Sorry about that. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/126 "2004-10-01T22:18:21Z")
> [@Trunk](#): > > No duh, but that doesn’t mean that every WAG thrown out there is perfectly valid. Of course not, but what’s the harm of speculating? > [@](#): > > If we just want to make up stupid shit all day, fine. If it’s pissing you off that much, maybe don’t read the thread, eh? People are going to try to figure out what’s going on, and some of the guesses are going to be way, waaaaaaaay off, cliche, or implausible. So what? Why get your knickers all in a twist about it? Not to mention the fact that one of the WAGs is probably right, no matter how stupid it might seem to you. The chance that this show will opt for a really clever, never-before-seen-in-the-history-of-show-business explanation is just as implausible as “it’s dinosaurs” as an outcome. > [@](#): > > It’s dinosaurs. That’s been ruled out by the producers, but hey, we all saw _Jurassic Park_, so it pops to mind. > [@](#): > > It’s actually a massive “reality tv” set like “The Truman” show. Maybe, but who would dig a show where people were really dying in gruesome ways? OK, I do have to admit, if it were _The Apprentice_, I’d watch. > [@](#): > > It’s giant robot pirate monkeys. Still my favorite. > [@](#): > > There are windmill powered turbines. Why is that so offensively unbelievable? > [@](#): > > Whatever fears they imagine come true. Hey now. Did you think it was just a random coincidence that the kid saw a polar bear in the comic book, and shortly thereafter, poof, a polar bear running through the tropics? Chances are there’s some connection. Got a better theory, or do you just like making fun of other people’s? > [@](#): > > They landed on a leper colony. Giant lepers who can knock down trees! Good one. You forgot some: It’s only a dream. Jack is going to wake up to a stewardess telling him to place his tray in the upright position. Whew! Maybe they’ll throw in Patrick Duffy showering at the end too. Terry O’Quinn is autistic, and he’s imagining the whole thing while sitting on a beach. It’s going to turn out to be a show about nothing, and at the end they’ll all get arrested. A space ship crash-landed on that island, which periodically screws up plane’s navigational systems. In the series finale, the mother ship will return and take the survivors with them. After performing a ritual, they all become Slayers and kick undead dinosaur bears’ asses. I could do this all day… ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/127 "2004-10-01T23:12:06Z")
Bob Newhart wakes up, rolls over and tells Emily that he just had the weirdest dream… ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/128 "2004-10-01T23:41:52Z")
And EMILY IS A CORPSE! ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/129 "2004-10-02T00:18:59Z")
> [@duality72](#): > > What exactly is the problem with wind-powered electricity supposed to be? Am I the only one to watch _[Rough Science](http://www.pbs.org/weta/roughscience/)_? Don’t answer that, I probably am. Anyway, all you need is wire, magnets, and know-how and you can cobble together the rest. Assuming you got there in anything close to a modern vehicle, you’re set for at least some electricity production. I don’t have a problem with any specific generating technology. The stretch of truth comes when you try to assume that _any_ technology will continue to generate unattended for 16 years. Even solar methods would require an occaisional alignment or cleaning of the light collector. Wind power would probably destruct during the first tropical storm. Anyone accidentally marooned would probably not have equipment durable enough to make it 16 years. The suggestion that the island had(s?) a scientific research project could explain the possibility of a durable power source. Still 16 years is a long time to operate unattended. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/130 "2004-10-02T03:34:56Z")
> [@](#): > > Three episodes from now, the kid is going to point at somebody and say, “You’re a bad man!” And the episode after that, he tells the doctor, “I see dead people.” Of course, the doctor replies, “all right already, I can take a hint, we’ll start burying the bodies.” ---
**Author:** ![Spree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@Spree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spree)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/131 "2004-10-02T04:16:11Z")
> [@BubbaDog](#): > > The suggestion that the island had(s?) a scientific research project could explain the possibility of a durable power source. Still 16 years is a long time to operate unattended. How do we know it’s unattended, though? There was still one person alive to create the transmission, no? Granted, I’d think she’d want to try a new message every so often, but she could have been around for a long time - heck, could still be around - keeping the transmitter running. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_The\_Younger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d9b06d/32.png) [@Paul\_The\_Younger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_The_Younger)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/132 "2004-10-02T04:45:23Z")
Okay, here’s the part that bothered me, and I don’t know if it points out a future plot twist, or if the writers screwed up, or if they just thought we’d be too dumb to notice…just in case I’ll put it in a spoiler box. In Charlie’s flashback, he drops his stash in the forward toilet, then dives out of the bathroom and buckles into the nearest seat. Why, then, is he walking and talking on the beach with the other survivors?!? Shouldn’t he have been in the nosecone wreckage, strapped in dead like all the others ten feet from the bathroom? And I won’t accept that he survived that portion of the crash and made his way down to the beach…because he obviously would have retrieved his stash first. I’m really starting to like this show, but I hope they don’t get as plot-twist nutty as Alias has gotten. You miss a week and it’s like starting over. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/133 "2004-10-02T13:35:14Z")
A silly theory: The island is owned by eccetric zillionare who pays cartographers top keep the island of the charts. The big thing is a mecha and is used to keep other islanders from disturning the zillionares peace. Brian ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/134 "2004-10-02T15:47:39Z")
**Trunk** - You forgot the WAG, they’re all dead and this is the afterlife. \*\*Paul the Younger \*\* - I think he got flung out of the bathroom and rolled a ways down the aisle so that he ended up in a section of the plane not too far forward from where Jack was sitting. I intend to tape tonights replay of the first 2 episodes this time so I can go back and replay these things. Thanks for that French translation, it gave me chills, too. I think “Toenails” knowledge of French just wasn’t good enough to pick up all that and she wasn’t intentionally holding back. BTW, it’s really evil of the show’s writers to throw that clue in that only French speaking people would get. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/135 "2004-10-02T16:47:17Z")
We have a French person for the transmission, do we have a Spanish person for the comic book? The next pages after the polar bear are reasonable readable if you pause the tape. Also I wonmder if any of the SMDB comic book mavens recognize the particular comic in question. We don’t have a good look at the cover. Brian ---
**Author:** ![barking\_frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@barking\_frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/barking_frog)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/136 "2004-10-02T17:56:19Z")
> [@N9IWP](#): > > A silly theory: The island is owned by eccetric zillionare who pays cartographers top keep the island of the charts. The big thing is a mecha and is used to keep other islanders from disturning the zillionares peace. > > Brian How about this is the TV sequel to Jurassic Park? ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/137 "2004-10-02T18:14:07Z")
Actually I was going for a “The Village” theme. Brian ---
**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/138 "2004-10-02T18:44:14Z")
> [@N9IWP](#): > > Also I wonmder if any of the SMDB comic book mavens recognize the particular comic in question. We don’t have a good look at the cover. I recognized the Golden Age Flash and (I think) Dr. Fate, so it was either an issue of _All-Star Comics_ or _Justice Society of America_ or some variation on same. ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/139 "2004-10-02T20:06:30Z")
I thought it looked like the JLA/JSA crossover from 2000 (JLA: 2000?). I read it, but I don’t know where it is. ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769/140 "2004-10-02T20:07:36Z")
I hit submit too soon! I was also going to add that the ratings on week 2 held up as well as the suprise hit ratings from week 1. It won its timeslot again. That means it has a chance to make it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-9-29-unboxed-spoilers/266769.md?page=8)