# Lost: Epilogue

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-epilogue/549446>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 6, 2010, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-epilogue/549446 "2010-08-06T19:50:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-epilogue/549446/41 "2011-01-20T22:34:31Z")

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I rewatched the last season and I thought the ending worked even better on second viewing. But then, in regards to fiction, I’m always about the journey and not the destination. I don’t need everything wrapped up, and actually get irritated when a reveal is too obvious.

But, really, the thing that made the finale is when Vincent lay down next to Jack… what a good dog. ☹

I’d type more, but something just flew in my eye…

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-epilogue/549446/42 "2011-01-21T02:58:23Z")

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We really liked the two epilogues, especially the one with Hurley picking up Walt. I’d love to see some sort of special showing Hurley in charge.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-epilogue/549446/43 "2011-01-22T00:53:01Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> We really liked the two epilogues, especially the one with Hurley picking up Walt. I’d love to see some sort of special showing Hurley in charge.

There was another epilogue besides the one with Hurley picking up Walt?

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-epilogue/549446/44 "2011-01-22T01:05:06Z")

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> [@TBG](#):
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> There was another epilogue besides the one with Hurley picking up Walt?

Yes. I think it’s mentioned above in someone’s spoiler box. But the other epilogue concerns Ben showing up at the warehouse where two guys have for decades been loading palettes of Dharma Initiative foodstuffs and other supplies for the regular airdrop to the island. He tells them they’re being laid off and gives them their severance pay. They’re shocked, as he’s the first person from the main office they’ve seen in decades, maybe ever, and want to know what’s going on. He allows each to ask one question apiece. They watch a DI video that helps explain the polar bears. The end.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-epilogue/549446/45 "2011-01-22T01:07:17Z")

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> [@TBG](#):
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> There was another epilogue besides the one with Hurley picking up Walt?

No, the whole thing is one long epilogue. Couple brief storylines, though.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-epilogue/549446/46 "2011-01-22T01:11:43Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> No, the whole thing is one long epilogue. Couple brief storylines, though.

On our DVD set, they were separate. We had to click on each one. In other places, they run together?

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**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-epilogue/549446/47 "2011-01-22T19:18:14Z")

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As someone who watched it for a while and then found out that they were making it up as they went along, does it really matter what an epilogue says?

Its probably magic or a dream or something.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-epilogue/549446/48 "2011-01-22T19:45:55Z")

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> [@Lust4Life](#):
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> As someone who watched it for a while and then found out that they were making it up as they went along, does it really matter what an epilogue says?
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> Its probably magic or a dream or something.

Every show gets made up as it goes along. That why writers have a job.

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**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-epilogue/549446/49 "2011-01-22T19:50:34Z")

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> [@Lust4Life](#):
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> As someone who watched it for a while and then found out that they were making it up as they went along, does it really matter what an epilogue says? Its probably magic or a dream or something.

Neither the proposition that they “made it all up as they went along” nor that they “had every plot point planned and every mystery mapped out from the pilot” turned out to be true. They had a sense of what the major flagpole moments of the series would be from fairly early, but not all the details. But they made sure to have a good idea of the explanation behind any mystery at the time that it was introduced.

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**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-epilogue/549446/50 "2011-01-23T16:25:15Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> Every show gets made up as it goes along. That why writers have a job.

I tell you what ! lets introduce such and such to the story.

Why ?

Because its eerie and mysterious, also thought provoking.

No, I mean how do we justify it plotwise ?

Oh don’t you worry about that we’ll think of something later, or maybe let it drag on so long that the viewers will forget asbout it.

They’re all morons anyway and we’ll still get our paycheck.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-epilogue/549446/51 "2011-01-24T02:49:47Z")

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My understanding is the writers of _Lost_ pretty much had the whole story mapped out from beginning to end early on.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-epilogue/549446/52 "2011-01-24T04:43:59Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> My understanding is the writers of _Lost_ pretty much had the whole story mapped out from beginning to end early on.

They’ve said time and time again that this isn’t the case. They said that they had the scenes in the finale (and some of the larger concepts) in mind from the outset, but they didn’t have a clear idea of how they’d get from point A to point B. Many of the annoying details of the mystery and the characters stories were simply mistakes they made along the way when they didn’t have a firm end point or when they painted themselves into a corner with a plotline. The writers, somewhat annoyingly to this fan, made compromises and wrote nonsense in favor of setting moods and manufacturing a emotion. That’s just their point of view, they aren’t hard sci-fi writers.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-epilogue/549446/53 "2011-01-24T04:59:17Z")

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Thanks for the clarification. Still a good ride, though.

Have you ever noticed how some actors over the years hit it big in one particular show and then seemed to disappear in thin air? _MASH_ springs to mind for most of that cast. There are a few actors in _Lost_ I could do without seeing again, but many of them I’d like to see what else they can do. Would love to see Jorge Garcia some more, but I fear his roles may be limited, or he’ll just become typecast as “The Goofy Fat Guy.”

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**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-epilogue/549446/54 "2011-01-24T05:12:55Z")

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I didn’t care about the inconsistencies, but I did think the writers chickened out toward the end, as I’ve said before:

> [@LOST 6.17 "The End"](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-6-17-the-end/540459/528):
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> Since this thread is still alive, I’ll say something I’ve been thinking recently: I liked the final episode when I first saw it, but the more I think about it the more I think the writers chickened out. To me, [“Sundown”](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundown_(Lost)) was the point where Lost seemed to be taking a very dark, apocalyptic turn. I really thought that somehow fake Locke was the devil incarnate, and had corrupted the souls of Sayid and Claire. And the creepy voice of Claire singing “Catch a Falling Star” to her boar skull baby as Locke and his new followers march out by torchlight to bring Armageddon to the world . . . that sent chills down my spine.
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> And then they pulled back. Sayid and Claire weren’t really infected with darkness. Locke was just this guy, you know? And Jacob was a bit of a dunce.
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> I didn’t care about the hatches and rabbits and getting answers to all that crap, but I do think Lost was going in a certain direction artistically and then didn’t have the courage to follow through.

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**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-epilogue/549446/55 "2011-01-24T08:00:10Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Would love to see Jorge Garcia some more, but I fear his roles may be limited, or he’ll just become typecast as “The Goofy Fat Guy.”

He’s in the new series by one of the Lost people: Alcatraz. I think his role is the “explain the mysteries” guy. The series seems like it’s going to involve sci-fi mysteries and time travel again.

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**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-epilogue/549446/56 "2011-01-24T08:14:22Z")

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I’m sure someone has posted this somewhere already, but I still think it’s amusing:

[How LOST Should Have Ended](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrcF7dYADsw)

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-epilogue/549446/57 "2011-01-24T23:25:40Z")

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> [@Koxinga](#):
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> I didn’t care about the inconsistencies, but I did think the writers chickened out toward the end, as I’ve said before:

That’s actually a pretty interesting point, thanks for sharing it.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-epilogue/549446/58 "2011-01-25T03:06:15Z")

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> [@jackdavinci](#):
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> He’s in the new series by one of the Lost people: Alcatraz. I think his role is the “explain the mysteries” guy. The series seems like it’s going to involve sci-fi mysteries and time travel again.

Thanks! Is it any good? We’ll keep an eye out for the DVD set in the future if it is.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-epilogue/549446/59 "2011-01-25T03:25:23Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Thanks! Is it any good? We’ll keep an eye out for the DVD set in the future if it is.

It’s not out yet. I think they’ve just started filming.

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**Author:** ![Khaki\_Campbell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Khaki\_Campbell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khaki_Campbell)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2011, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-epilogue/549446/60 "2011-01-30T09:07:26Z")

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One question that I couldn’t find an answer for, even on _Lostpedia_ : considering all the trouble Lapidus, Sawyer, Miles etc. went through to leave the Island on the refurbished Ajira plane, _how_ the hell did Ben and Hurley leave the Island afterwards to go to the Santa Rosa sanatorium (and on a related topic, how Jacob did it) ?

And _who_ paid those guys at that Guam Warehouse ?

And what ultimately happened to Desmond ?

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