# Lost in Space reboot

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-space-reboot/809295>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 21, 2018, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-space-reboot/809295 "2018-02-21T21:09:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-space-reboot/809295/81 "2018-04-15T16:06:43Z")

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> [@Banksiaman](#):
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> The ones I liked most were later in the series, when they’d used up all their A, B and C list ideas and were really scratching around for any sort of encounters. It was almost Monkey Tennis in Space every week.
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> But, if they can just get some guy in silver paint to do a heart-felt ‘CRUSH, KILL, DESTROY’ that I can use as a ring tone, then I will be very, very happy.

Remember “The Great Vegetable Rebellion”? A talking carrot as the Big Bad and Dr. Smith turning into a thirsty stalk of celery - Jonathan Harris really ran away with that one, OMG, so camp, so bad, and proof people took drugs in the 1960’s.

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**Author:** ![FordPrefect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@FordPrefect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordPrefect)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-space-reboot/809295/82 "2018-04-15T16:38:06Z")

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> [@Quercus\_alba](#):
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> You shut it down before Parker Posey’s “Dr. Smith” character appeared.

Fair enough… My bad

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**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-space-reboot/809295/83 "2018-04-15T17:24:37Z")

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> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#):
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> Both are on the show, and Parker Posey portrayed the unstable one. . .unless you’re trying to say Molly Parker was unintentionally creepy.

No, I meant Parker Posey as Dr. Smith. Molly Parker I don’t find creepy at all 😁

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-space-reboot/809295/84 "2018-04-15T19:54:36Z")

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I got about five minutes into it before I realized I wanted them all to go down with the ship. Might give it another shot.

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**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-space-reboot/809295/85 "2018-04-15T21:53:16Z")

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> [@FinsToTheLeft](#):
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> No, I meant Parker Posey as Dr. Smith. Molly Parker I don’t find creepy at all 😁

Your post was clear to anyone who watched at least a full episode, or read the cast list at the IMDB. My reply was to another poster I quoted in that same post.

Things are getting oddly scrambled around here, even for the internet. 🙂

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**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-space-reboot/809295/86 "2018-04-15T22:51:15Z")

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Eh. Space fantasy with a “science-y” patina. I liked it well enough. Good soundtrack.

[The end credits rock.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4GAwKMte3w)

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**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-space-reboot/809295/87 "2018-04-16T00:51:05Z")

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> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#):
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> Your post was clear to anyone who watched at least a full episode, or read the cast list at the IMDB. My reply was to another poster I quoted in that same post.
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> Things are getting oddly scrambled around here, even for the internet. 🙂

I was going to multi-quote but I’m on my tablet and lazy today, I knew it wasn’t you FILB. This is one of those times that threaded discussions would help.

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-space-reboot/809295/88 "2018-04-16T02:43:20Z")

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> [@Lucas\_Jackson](#):
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> On a more serious note, how is Dr Smith going to work as a woman? A large part of his “appeal” (the thing we loved to hate) was that he was a sissy. I’m not seeing how a woman can effectively pull that off.

By being a lying, manipulative coward. Just like Dr. Smith. The thing is, they are going to have to come up with a better reason that no one just kills her. I’m thinking blackmail. I haven’t decided of whom, yet, but I suspect Judy.

> [@Grrr](#):
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> Eh, I imagine the two Smiths will have about as much in common with each other as the two Starbucks did on BSG.

? Both were the standard rule-breaker-too-skilled-to-get-rid-of. Granted, Starbuck I was less self destructive, but that was a much lighter series.

BTW, June Lockart has worked over 70 of the last 80 years.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-space-reboot/809295/89 "2018-04-16T02:51:55Z")

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Finished episode 1 and the first thing that came to mind was “robot ex machina.”

It’s also hard to believe that in a climate so cold that a lake freezes solid (from the bottom first :rolleyes:), people are running around with exposed skin and no hats.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-space-reboot/809295/90 "2018-04-16T09:34:53Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> Finished episode 1 and the first thing that came to mind was “robot ex machina.”
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> It’s also hard to believe that in a climate so cold that a lake freezes solid (from the bottom first :rolleyes:), people are running around with exposed skin and no hats.

And without zipping their coats, and without their breath “smoking.” it was supposed to be 60 below zero.

Also, a lush forest literally 10 feet beyond a sheer-faced glacier.

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**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-space-reboot/809295/91 "2018-04-16T09:54:11Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> Finished episode 1 and the first thing that came to mind was “robot ex machina.”
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> It’s also hard to believe that in a climate so cold that a lake freezes solid (from the bottom first :rolleyes:), people are running around with exposed skin and no hats.

All that, plus it happens _immediately_ after sunset. And then there’s the rain - it’s 60 below, so shouldn’t it be snowing rather than raining? Okay, the rain is freezing instantly on the water, but the people are fine with no protection?

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**Author:** ![Weedy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weedy/32/301_2.png) [@Weedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weedy)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-space-reboot/809295/92 "2018-04-16T11:25:29Z")

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We binge watched this weekend. I liked it well enough. So silly in places, and not in a fun way just illogical and dumb (like the rain in -60° weather). I just decided not to worry about it. Or maybe nit-picking is part of the fun. The robot was disappointing, no personality at all.

The kids were all good. The overall plot made sense, kinda. No gratuitous violence. That alone made it 80x more watchable than a lot of stuff.

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-space-reboot/809295/93 "2018-04-16T13:36:39Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> And without zipping their coats, and without their breath “smoking.” it was supposed to be 60 below zero.

That really bothered me, and could’ve been easily resolved with just a bit of exposition: “It’s too cold and the air’s too thin up here, so let’s keep our helmets on until we manage to get off this mountain.”

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-space-reboot/809295/94 "2018-04-16T15:47:46Z")

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> [@Weedy](#):
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> We binge watched this weekend. I liked it well enough. So silly in places, and not in a fun way just illogical and dumb (like the rain in -60° weather). I just decided not to worry about it. Or maybe nit-picking is part of the fun. The robot was disappointing, no personality at all.
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> The kids were all good. The overall plot made sense, kinda. No gratuitous violence. That alone made it 80x more watchable than a lot of stuff.

My feelings exactly.

I still have the final episode to watch, but overall I enjoyed it despite its science flaws.

The bad science that really bugged me was (minor spoilers):

The instant freezing of the lake, and the rain in -60° weather. They seemed barely afflicted by such freezing temps, with their hoods down. Have the writers ever been anywhere besides Southern California?

Does elemental magnesium just live in soft veins in the rock like that, where you can just carve it out with a knife? And he was just burning chunks of it. I would think you’d need to at least grind it into a powder so it can oxidize more effectively.

Maureen said they were _trillions_ of light years away from Earth. The observable universe is only 93 billion LYs in diameter. Granted, the universe could be infinite in size, but there’s no way to know, so how could she even toss out such an estimate? If the writers had her say they’re billions of lightyears from earth, that still would sound impressive, and avoided any possible scientific contradiction.

The technique used to escape the tar pit. If the helium was compressed in that tiny canister, no way could such a small amount overcome the pressure from all that tar. Nice try, but they would’ve needed much more gas. Not to mention, isn’t that tar supposed to be 100s of degrees? They would’ve been cooked alive. The helium voices was a very funny moment though.

The black hole being a threat. Unless you get extremely close, its gravity would be no stronger than whatever star it was before it collapsed ages ago. Just because it’s a black hole doesn’t mean it would suck in the entire solar system.

If it gets lit for a second season, I hope they tighten up their science.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-space-reboot/809295/95 "2018-04-16T15:55:05Z")

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Another thing about the tar pit escape. As soon as John punctured the bag, the chute would collapse, encasing them both.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-space-reboot/809295/96 "2018-04-16T16:30:50Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Also, a lush forest literally 10 feet beyond a sheer-faced glacier.

It worked in _Ice Age 3,_ so I guess there’s scientific precedent.

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-space-reboot/809295/97 "2018-04-16T17:31:43Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> The black hole being a threat. Unless you get extremely close, its gravity would be no stronger than whatever star it was before it collapsed ages ago. Just because it’s a black hole doesn’t mean it would suck in the entire solar system.

My impression was that the black hole just meant that the planet’s orbit was more eccentric than they had originally estimated- remember, they hadn’t even had a chance to survey the planet before crash landing on it. It seemed like a nice place at first, but apparently the summers are a bitch.

Of course, that doesn’t really explain why the Resolute had to leave the system on a deadline. As long as they weren’t in orbit around the planet, they would’ve been just fine.

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**Author:** ![tonyfop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/85f322/32.png) [@tonyfop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tonyfop)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-space-reboot/809295/98 "2018-04-16T17:56:04Z")

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> [@Lightnin](#):
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> My impression was that the black hole just meant that the planet’s orbit was more eccentric than they had originally estimated- remember, they hadn’t even had a chance to survey the planet before crash landing on it. It seemed like a nice place at first, but apparently the summers are a bitch.
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> Of course, that doesn’t really explain why the Resolute had to leave the system on a deadline. As long as they weren’t in orbit around the planet, they would’ve been just fine.

Yes, that is the point. The Resolute had to leave orbit because they were getting too near the black hole and were picking up Hawking radiation (just giving the in-show explanation, don’t care if it is just techno-babble). Once they left orbit it would be impossible for the Jupiters to reach them. Jupiters are only made to go up to and down from orbit.

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**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-space-reboot/809295/99 "2018-04-21T00:12:18Z")

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Just generally speaking: there’s a couple of blink-and-you’ll miss it shots of the water freezing up on the surface (pretty much simultaneous with the water freezing up below the surface) after their crash in Ep.1.

In fact, it looks like the hole froze up from the outside-in.

Still, you’d think that the residual heat of the Jupiter 2 would mean it would be the last thing to start freezing up, not the first.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-space-reboot/809295/100 "2018-04-21T03:13:19Z")

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> [@kunilou](#):
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> Come on. Angela Cartwright was 13:eek:when the show started.

Yes and I was 10 at the time so she was the “cute girl next door”.

She got nothing but better over time.

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