# Lost in Translation – when good words go wrong… **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [September 8, 2007, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-translation-when-good-words-go-wrong/418452 "2007-09-08T10:33:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BACI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ce73a5/32.png) [@BACI](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BACI)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-translation-when-good-words-go-wrong/418452/1 "2007-09-08T10:33:59Z")
Travelling overseas to English speaking countries one would think communication would be pretty straight forward most of the time, which is true. But I can recall several times being caught out with things I thought were perfectly normal – only to have several people look at me very strangely…. (although once you realise what’s happened it can be quite entertaining) The best one I heard was my sister-in-law, a single English girl who came to Australia. Shortly after arriving she went to a bar and managed to find a nice man and set up a date to meet him the following week. She went to work the next day and announced to every one in the lunch room, “I love aussie men, I’ve only been here a week and I managed to pull a guy at the bar!” (“Pull a guy” = UK “meet a nice man who wants to see you again”, Aus = well… you work it out, it’s something polite company wouldn’t talk about, but it makes most men very happy) Needless to say, when someone took her aside to explain what she’d said – she was mortified. My own tales are not quite as hilarious, but they still make me smile. At the fair in the UK I asked for “fairy floss” (UK = Candy Floss, US = Cotton Candy). I think they thought I was on drugs. Again in the UK, a child I was looking after asked kept asking me for a “lolly” so I gave her some caramel toffees, and I had no idea why she wasn’t satisfied and immediately asked again for a lolly. (In Aus “lolly” = UK “Sweetie”, US “Candy”. In UK “lolly” = Aus “Icy Pole”, US ??) So when have you been divided from another by a common language? ---
**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-translation-when-good-words-go-wrong/418452/2 "2007-09-08T11:03:25Z")
[QUOTE=BACI] US ??) [/QUOTE] Lollypop. Bits of sugar and flavor stuck to a stick. Hard candy. With a stick. Or a guy who delivers adverbs (some people will get this). Of course they’re always “knocked up” as in “I was in your girlfriend’s neighborhood so I knocked her up.” Don’t say this in the US. ---
**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-translation-when-good-words-go-wrong/418452/3 "2007-09-08T11:53:47Z")
Early in my stay in the US, at a restaurant towards the end of the meal, I asked for a “short black”. I don’t think they really thought that I was asking for an African American of less-than-average stature, but it took a while to work out that I was asking for an “espresso”. ---
**Author:** ![Shryn\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Shryn\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shryn_King)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-translation-when-good-words-go-wrong/418452/4 "2007-09-08T12:14:10Z")
While in New Zealand MANY years ago, I wanted to get my **bangs** trimmed. I went into a salon and came out with my **fringe** trimmed. ---
**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-translation-when-good-words-go-wrong/418452/5 "2007-09-08T12:29:15Z")
I suppose one of the ultimate examples would be “bum a fag”. I Britain it would mean to ask someone for a cigarette, while in the US…, well, there’s a congressman in trouble right now for getting caught trying to do it in a public lavatory. And then in the other thread on regional slang someone recently brought up Cornhole. ---
**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-translation-when-good-words-go-wrong/418452/6 "2007-09-08T13:40:17Z")
[QUOTE=Sublight] I suppose one of the ultimate examples would be “bum a fag” [/QUOTE] “when you ask for a fag in texas…smile…” Mark E. Smith ---
**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-translation-when-good-words-go-wrong/418452/7 "2007-09-08T17:01:28Z")
Heathrow, circa 1980…I step off my flight from America,get my first sight of England and burst out laughing… a huge billboard announces: “FAGGOTS----great balls of goodness” It was an advertisement for a brand of fast-food style frozen spaghetti and meatballs. ---
**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-translation-when-good-words-go-wrong/418452/8 "2007-09-08T17:06:05Z")
[QUOTE=betenoir] Or a guy who delivers adverbs (some people will get this). [/QUOTE] I saw that guy over at Conjunction Junction ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-translation-when-good-words-go-wrong/418452/9 "2007-09-08T17:12:04Z")
And there’s the classic example of the word fanny. Here it’s acceptable slang for a person’s behind, in England it it’s a not so nice term for a woman’s…“befront.” Trust the British to drive on the wrong side of the road. ---
**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-translation-when-good-words-go-wrong/418452/10 "2007-09-08T17:21:37Z")
[QUOTE=Annie-Xmas] And there’s the classic example of the word fanny. Here it’s acceptable slang for a person’s behind, in England it it’s a not so nice term for a woman’s…“befront.” [/QUOTE] whaddaya expect from a country that calls a trunk “hood”, and a hood “bonnet”? eta: makes me wonder what they call the frilly head piece that ties under a baby’s chin :dubious: 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Paintcharge](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paintcharge/32/7946_2.png) [@Paintcharge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paintcharge)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-translation-when-good-words-go-wrong/418452/11 "2007-09-08T20:55:20Z")
[QUOTE=Annie-Xmas] And there’s the classic example of the word fanny. Here it’s acceptable slang for a person’s behind, in England it it’s a not so nice term for a woman’s…“befront.” [/QUOTE] Never heard that one before. My friend from Birmingham called it “the front bum”. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-translation-when-good-words-go-wrong/418452/12 "2007-09-08T21:03:15Z")
[QUOTE=anyrose] whaddaya expect from a country that calls a trunk “hood”, and a hood “bonnet”? [/QUOTE] The bonnet is the hood. The trunk is the boot. The convertible top is the hood. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2007, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-translation-when-good-words-go-wrong/418452/13 "2007-09-09T13:50:07Z")
Hired some drywallers. The crew chief was the only one that spoke English. At introductions, he pointed at a fellow and said ‘perro’. So I assumed this guys name was ‘Perro’. Sort of sounds like ‘Pedro’. In fact, he was pointing at my dog beyond the guy. I called the guy ‘dog’ for a few hours before I figured it out. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2007, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-translation-when-good-words-go-wrong/418452/14 "2007-09-09T14:34:16Z")
During WWII, my uncle had an embarrassing moment at the table of a family who had invited him over with a remark about their napkins. (And if I am ever in a similar situation, I’m going to have to be very careful, because, for some reason, even though I know the two not-for-the-table British meanings of “napkin,” I can never quite remember the word serviette without an effort. (Unlike bonnet and hood and lorry and even fanny that are in enough novels or other texts that I can make a instantaneous translation.) ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2007, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-translation-when-good-words-go-wrong/418452/15 "2007-09-09T18:44:09Z")
When I worked in New Zealand, I was a bit taken aback when the sweet-little-old-lady receptionist in my office asked me if I knew where to get rubbers if I needed them. It took me a moment to realize she was talking about erasers instead of condoms. I also got some odd looks in Australia when I mentioned that I rooted for a certain baseball team. There you cheer for your team, while “rooting” refers to another activity entirely. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2007, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-translation-when-good-words-go-wrong/418452/16 "2007-09-09T22:35:34Z")
My SIL and her friend were vacationing in England, visiting her aunt and uncle. They met some nice guys in a pub, it was getting late, and the girls were tired and wanted to go home. So, they asked they guys if they could give them a ride. Snickers ensued, then I think the boys took pity on the girls and explained to them what they had asked. They also ordered pints, which, I understand at the time, _ladies_ never order pints…only half-pints. I believe that’s changed now. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-translation-when-good-words-go-wrong/418452/17 "2007-09-10T00:35:59Z")
[QUOTE=tomndebb] During WWII, my uncle had an embarrassing moment at the table of a family who had invited him over with a remark about their napkins. (And if I am ever in a similar situation, I’m going to have to be very careful, because, for some reason, even though I know the two not-for-the-table British meanings of “napkin,” I can never quite remember the word serviette without an effort. (Unlike bonnet and hood and lorry and even fanny that are in enough novels or other texts that I can make a instantaneous translation.) [/QUOTE] Please explain this one to me. The one I’ve heard several times (probably apocryphal) was Irish people getting in trouble in America after saying “I had great crack at the party!” Crack or the horrid Irishified version “craic” = fun ---
**Author:** ![Yumblie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/76d3ee/32.png) [@Yumblie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yumblie)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-translation-when-good-words-go-wrong/418452/18 "2007-09-10T02:28:45Z")
I have a British friend who always expresses amusement that here in the US there’s a “Pratt University”. In england, prat is a generic insult for a stupid person, so it doesn’t sound like a very distinguished institution to his ears. He also recently discovered there’s a town here called Knob Hill, and “knob” is slang for a certain part of the male anatomy over across the pond. ---
**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-translation-when-good-words-go-wrong/418452/19 "2007-09-10T12:07:49Z")
[QUOTE=Yumblie] I have a British friend who always expresses amusement that here in the US there’s a “Pratt University”. In england, prat is a generic insult for a stupid person, so it doesn’t sound like a very distinguished institution to his ears. He also recently discovered there’s a town here called Knob Hill, and “knob” is slang for a certain part of the male anatomy over across the pond. [/QUOTE] The original sense of “prat” was “backside” (as in “pratfall” = to fall on your arse), hence “making a prat of yourself”. Nowadays, the word has lost its original meaning and is, as you say, just a generic insult. > [@](#): > > During WWII, my uncle had an embarrassing moment at the table of a family who had invited him over with a remark about their napkins. > > (And if I am ever in a similar situation, I’m going to have to be very careful, because, for some reason, even though I know the two not-for-the-table British meanings of “napkin,” I can never quite remember the word serviette without an effort. (Unlike bonnet and hood and lorry and even fanny that are in enough novels or other texts that I can make a instantaneous translation.) I can’t see why this would be a problem. In Britain, a “napkin” is the linen (or paper) thing that you place on your lap while eating. It’s also known as a serviette, and I’m sure etiquette gurus would make some kind of social-class distinction between those who would use one word over the other, but frankly I have no idea which is supposed to be “posh” and which isn’t. I say napkin, usually. Were you perhaps thinking of the archaic word “napkin” as the long form of “nappy”, i.e. diaper? Or the equally old-fashioned “sanitary napkin”, i.e. feminine-hygiene product? Neither would be the first thing that came to mind if you said “napkin” in the UK any time after about 1950. ---
**Author:** ![irishgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@irishgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irishgirl)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-translation-when-good-words-go-wrong/418452/20 "2007-09-10T12:15:14Z")
Dahling, serviette is _so_ lower middle class. Napkins, sweetie, napkins. 😛 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-in-translation-when-good-words-go-wrong/418452.md?page=2)