# Lost Mafia/Werewolf/Psychopath

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 10, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337 "2009-06-10T15:43:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/41 "2009-06-11T00:34:12Z")

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Looks like this game will be full of two timers. :eek:  
Heh.

I mean, this is still “experimentation” like we did back in college that one time after the part…

It’s ok gang, it’s just my second time too. It’s not an addiction until the third time, right? Right? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/42 "2009-06-11T00:37:03Z")

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Still looking for two more, everyone!

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/43 "2009-06-11T01:23:00Z")

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> [@](#):
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> I mean, this is still “experimentation” like we did back in college that one time after the part…

Which one? Like, the one where we determined the gravitational field of the Earth, or the one where we measured the speed of light? Or maybe the one where we measured the wavelength of a laser beam using interferometry… That one’s my favorite.

What, isn’t that the kind of experimentation everyone does in college?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/44 "2009-06-11T01:36:32Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> What, isn’t that the kind of experimentation everyone does in college?

I have no comment about my college experimentation at this time.

😉

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**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/45 "2009-06-11T01:44:12Z")

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I’ll sign myself up, except I’m going on vacation next week, but after that I’ll be free to play (after father’s day).

So put me down as a substitute if someone more active comes along. Else, I’d take the spot.

Also- Why is editing allowed?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/46 "2009-06-11T02:02:49Z")

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> [@Ro0sh](#):
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> I’ll sign myself up, except I’m going on vacation next week, but after that I’ll be free to play (after father’s day).
> 
> So put me down as a substitute if someone more active comes along. Else, I’d take the spot.
> 
> **Also- Why is editing allowed?**

OK, I will put you down as sub. I wish you were free this week as well.

Editing?

**I don’t mind if people edit, so why make a rule against it?**

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**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/47 "2009-06-11T02:09:18Z")

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Fair Enough

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**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/48 "2009-06-11T02:11:24Z")

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ooh, maybe not. Interesting.

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**Author:** ![GuyIncognitto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7ba0ec/32.png) [@GuyIncognitto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuyIncognitto)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/49 "2009-06-11T02:38:27Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> OK, I will put you down as sub. I wish you were free this week as well.
> 
> Editing?
> 
> **I don’t mind if people edit, so why make a rule against it?**

That’s a good point. It would allow people to try and communicate quickly if they know the other is online, but they risk somebody else seeing it. But as long as the rule is the same for everybody, it’s fair.  
I’ll probably adopt that rule when I mod. Make for less posting restrictions.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/50 "2009-06-11T02:41:05Z")

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> [@GuyIncognitto](#):
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> I’ll probably adopt that rule when I mod. Make for less posting restrictions.

\*\*Basically, it’s up to the players to decide whether or not they care about editing. If you do, make a thing of it. If not, go for it. Either way.  
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**We still need 2 more!**

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/51 "2009-06-11T02:43:24Z")

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I’m going to bed, guys.

We really need two more, so tell anyone you think would like to be in the game.

Hopefully, I can get the PMs out tomorrow and Night Zero can begin. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/52 "2009-06-11T02:58:53Z")

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Note that last game, editing did in fact draw several votes. It’s allowed in the same sense that lying is allowed: You won’t get modkilled over it, but you might get lynched if anyone catches you at it.

Concerning gaming the mod-kill rules: I was just running some numbers, and it looks like it might actually be to Town’s advantage for a single Townie to commit suicide even in non-endgame scenarios, if there are an odd number of live players during the Day: The lack of an extra target to potentially accidentally lynch is enough advantage to make up for the loss of the Townie, since it doesn’t change the number of mislynches. Theoretically, of course, and assuming no other source of kills other than the lynch and single night-kill.

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**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/53 "2009-06-11T03:20:38Z")

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Oh goodie, it’s not too late. Count me in for this one. I might not be able to post much next week, but after that I should be clear.

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**Author:** ![cardinal\_fang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardinal_fang/32/15316_2.png) [@cardinal\_fang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cardinal_fang)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/54 "2009-06-11T03:23:24Z")

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I am willing if you need to fill slots. I have not played before, but followed The Crimson Glyph from beginning to end and was at once fascinated, amused, educated and repulsed. If you think this one’s OK for a n00b (who can’t even spell “Losst”) count me in.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/55 "2009-06-11T04:03:01Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Note that last game, editing did in fact draw several votes. It’s allowed in the same sense that lying is allowed: You won’t get modkilled over it, but you might get lynched if anyone catches you at it.
> 
> Concerning gaming the mod-kill rules: I was just running some numbers, and it looks like it might actually be to Town’s advantage for a single Townie to commit suicide even in non-endgame scenarios, if there are an odd number of live players during the Day: The lack of an extra target to potentially accidentally lynch is enough advantage to make up for the loss of the Townie, since it doesn’t change the number of mislynches. Theoretically, of course, and assuming no other source of kills other than the lynch and single night-kill.

I hope you aren’t the Politician this time around Chornos. If we even have one.

I mean, wow, even with out a role you are back to your systems.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/56 "2009-06-11T04:36:34Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> All players may strategize at all times in-thread. Editing of posts is allowed.\*\* After I PM you your role, please confirm with me that you received it and are ready to go.\*\*

\*\*  
Mahaloth, can you confirm this is correct as given? \*\*

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/57 "2009-06-11T05:45:34Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Note that last game, editing did in fact draw several votes. It’s allowed in the same sense that lying is allowed: You won’t get modkilled over it, but you might get lynched if anyone catches you at it.
> 
> Concerning gaming the mod-kill rules: I was just running some numbers, and it looks like it might actually be to Town’s advantage for a single Townie to commit suicide even in non-endgame scenarios, if there are an odd number of live players during the Day: The lack of an extra target to potentially accidentally lynch is enough advantage to make up for the loss of the Townie, since it doesn’t change the number of mislynches. Theoretically, of course, and assuming no other source of kills other than the lynch and single night-kill.

You forgot about something. That extra person can be a buffer just in case someone drops out/breaks a critical rule.

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**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/58 "2009-06-11T11:42:16Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Concerning gaming the mod-kill rules: I was just running some numbers, and it looks like it might actually be to Town’s advantage for a single Townie to commit suicide even in non-endgame scenarios, if there are an odd number of live players during the Day: The lack of an extra target to potentially accidentally lynch is enough advantage to make up for the loss of the Townie, since it doesn’t change the number of mislynches. Theoretically, of course, and assuming no other source of kills other than the lynch and single night-kill.

It’s a big assumption.

Not to mention that it’s usually safer to keep that buffer and just no-lynch for one Day to bring the numbers to an even amount of mislynches.

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/59 "2009-06-11T12:29:03Z")

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I think I may be too late, but just in case I’m not:

**I would like very much to play.**

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/60 "2009-06-11T12:29:49Z")

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Just popping in for a second. Looks like we are full. Yay!

I will post the final player list and have an update regarding the next step in a bit, guys.

🙂

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