# Lost Mafia/Werewolf/Psychopath **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 10, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337 "2009-06-10T15:43:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 43
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/841 "2009-06-24T15:15:35Z")
OK, the big problem with these late-day rushes is that they preclude bathroom breaks. I am leaving my computer to go to the restroom, and it’s a long-ish walk. It might be only two or three minutes before the deadline when I return. ---
**Author:** ![Telcontar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Telcontar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telcontar)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/842 "2009-06-24T15:17:15Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > OK, the big problem with these late-day rushes is that they preclude bathroom breaks. I am leaving my computer to go to the restroom, and it’s a long-ish walk. It might be only two or three minutes before the deadline when I return. Quick, lets lynch him before he’s back! Who is with me? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/843 "2009-06-24T15:17:33Z")
\*\*Vote Count: Oredigger(5): Telcontar, AllWalker, Pedescribe, ScubaBen, Storyteller Chronos(4): Jimmy Chitwood, CardinalFang, USCDiver, Oredigger Imaginary Fiend(1): Chronos AllWalker(1): Zeriel ShadowFacts(1): Imaginary Fiend CardinalFang(1): Meeko ScubaBen(1): ShadowFacts \*\* ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/844 "2009-06-24T15:17:53Z")
Can someone explain to me why there are several one-off voters sitting and watching, waiting until the last minute to break a tie? How is that pro-town when those votes wouldn’t be made in time for either a claim by the vote getter or for analysis by the group? Why wait until the last minute when you’re clearly online and watching the game as early as an hour and fifteen minutes earlier? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/845 "2009-06-24T15:18:20Z")
OK, just woke up and read what’s happened during the night. Since Oredigger is now two votes ahead of me, I think it’s safe to say that a self-defense vote is not needed (if the vote does swing against me at this late point, that would easily be enough information to make my death worth it, I think), so I’m leaving my vote on whom I think is most likely to be Scum. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/846 "2009-06-24T15:18:25Z")
Hypocritical my ass, there’s a big difference between being one of many early-day first voters and throwing in a one-off less than 24 hours before the deadline when there’s damn near a tie. ---
**Author:** ![Telcontar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Telcontar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telcontar)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/847 "2009-06-24T15:18:34Z")
NETA: Who takes 15 minutes to go to the bathroom? Plainly he’s up to all sorts of “scummy” activity there. Think of the cleaning staff! ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/848 "2009-06-24T15:20:36Z")
Never mind, one vote ahead, I just saw **Oredigger**. I’d forgotten he hadn’t weighed in, and I can’t blame him for self-defending, either. \*\*Unvote Imaginary Fiend Vote Oredigger\*\* in self-defense. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/849 "2009-06-24T15:21:17Z")
In my case, **USCDiver** , it’s because I don’t find either case compelling, but I find a tie LESS compelling, so I’ll act to prevent one but only when necessary. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/850 "2009-06-24T15:23:12Z")
Back. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/851 "2009-06-24T15:25:40Z")
**Can we get a player list after the Dusk?** ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/852 "2009-06-24T15:27:41Z")
No role claim from **Digger**. Confidence is building. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/853 "2009-06-24T15:28:33Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > I find the early votes for Meeko to be very interesting. I think Meeko was someone the Scum probably targeted early as someone who they could get mislynched; that it hasn’t worked out that way notwithstanding. I really hate **BillMc’s** vote for **Meeko,** by the way: it smells like rank opportunism at its worst (best?). > > **AllWalker’s** vote for Meeko (#306), the third (!), is also undermotivated, I think, particularly in light of the fact that AllWaker goes to pains to note that pedescribe is “suspicious,” (pedescribe is the vote leader at this point), but votes for Meeko because Meeko “misrepresented” BillMC. The problem being that what he calls misrepresentation looks like simple misunderstanding to me. And while reasonable people could differ on this point, the simple fact that it is not a blatantly obvious misrepresentation means that if pedescribe was suspicious enough to warrant a “suspicious as pedescribe is” mention, voting for Meeko there in place of pedescribe looks… let’s say worrisome. More so if pedescribe is Scum, though, because if ped is Scum than AllWaker’s vote for Meeko looks like an effort to gain cred for suspecting ped while quietly protecting ped from a potential lynch. > > [[Snipped Telcontar, look below for my reasons]] > > Then Oredigger piles on top of Meeko. He piggybacks AllWalker’s reasoning, and honestly, if AllWalker’s reasoning wasn’t good, then someone aping his reasoning feels even worse. “Oh, he cut a line out of something he was quoting, SCUM TELL” is just not reasonable, and adding the _fifth_ vote on the basis of such a tenuous thing… I strongly agree that my votes on me were not based on best town play. [Yeah, thats a complicated set of words there. But it works.] Anyone could look at my FIRST Mafia game and see that I totally didn’t get how this game is played. [[The speed (a week per one 24 hour cycle!?) of the game, to me, STILL, leaves a lot to be desired.]] 1.If we can have gut feelings in this game, then I still feel off with Jimmy Chitwood. 2.BillMC sided with me on Chitwood, but then voted for me. I still do not get this. 3.Despite that being the real reason why I voted for BillMC, Allwalker voted me. 4.I think Allwalker and I are keeping it to a low roar, but we were out for blood in the aptly named Crimson Glyph game. Again, If I could learn debate from Allwalker, I think it would improve my debating, a lot. 5.Suffice to say, I think Allwalkers vote was more personal grudge, than not. 6.Given that Allwalker voted for me, I am not also kinda “”“gut feeling”“” him as scum, as well. 7.Telcontar and I have little to no history. I will give him benefit of the doubt here, in this game. I really like his style, and he makes a lot of sense in his play. 8.Digger and I go way back. I’m not sure what to make of a guy who agrees to bury the hatchet from one Haggle game, just to bury it in my head, simply because I beat him in a simulpost for points. (A LOT of points, and a 2x point modifier, but we wont go there.) – I am just saying, Digger and I have a negative history. If this is Grudge worthy, I don’t know, If it is there, I would call it less of a grudge that Allwalker. I was an easy mislynch, and people had reasons. Not good reasons, but, they wanted me out regardless. I could **WIFOM** and ask if scum are voting because I am town, OR are they voting because of non Game related reasons (as I just listed). But, You know, screw it, If all the people that voted for me are scum, I would not be surprised. If Walker and Digger are scum, well, then, that would make my bandwagon even more case in point. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/854 "2009-06-24T15:31:16Z")
is the Board doing weird stuff for anyone else right now? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/855 "2009-06-24T15:32:02Z")
NETA UGH. You know, one of these days, I am going to learn how to actually get all of my thoughts together . ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/856 "2009-06-24T15:32:20Z")
Weirder than not displaying **Mahaloth** ’s Day-ending post, which he surely posted on time, you mean? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/857 "2009-06-24T15:33:02Z")
And my totally get players names wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/858 "2009-06-24T15:34:09Z")
Does anyone have duct tape? I need to shut up here. ---
**Author:** ![Telcontar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Telcontar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telcontar)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/859 "2009-06-24T15:34:32Z")
Actually something very odd is happening to me. I can’t quote meeko’s posts. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/860 "2009-06-24T15:34:54Z")
\*\*Previously on Lost: After the shocking events of the previous Night, paranoia overwhelmed the Survivors and they remained clueless as to what to do. An uncomfortable and long-lasting silence came over the crowd, as if last Night’s two deaths were making everyone too afraid to suggest anything or anyone. Votes to kill gradually began to trickle in and the Survivors discussed their options. “Kill…… him!” one voice cried out. “Not me! Kill…., uh……him!” yelled another. Fingers were pointed everywhere. Everyone felt threatened and everyone was scared. A few people settled their minds and two tiny groups had formed. “Well, we say kill Oredigger,” stated a few. “And we say kill Chronos,” replied a separate group. Everyone else just scrambled and pointed fingers at individuals. Some mumbled. Others just closed their eyes and pointed. In the end, though, several individuals began to walk over to the group….that was voting to kill Oredigger. With Night falling, the Survivors gathered around Oredigger, who sat there quietly, just pleading with his eyes. People began to pick up rocks and sticks, and beat Oredigger to death. But who was Oredigger really? And Now on Lost. You have lynched Oredigger77, who was Sayid Jarrah, an ordinary Survivor. Night Two has begun. Day Three will begin on Friday, June 26, at Noon Eastern. Any Night Actions must be in by 11:59 AM on Friday. \*\* [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337.md?page=42) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337.md?page=44)