# Lost Mafia/Werewolf/Psychopath

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 10, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337 "2009-06-10T15:43:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Telcontar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Telcontar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telcontar)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/901 "2009-06-24T21:18:21Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
>
> Telcontar : You ish teh furreh?

You were asking for an opinion, I gave you one. No one is in charge here and we’re not set up to take a vote on this sort of thing, so opinion is all there is.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/902 "2009-06-24T21:33:28Z")

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> [@Telcontar](#):
>
> You were asking for an opinion, I gave you one. No one is in charge here and we’re not set up to take a vote on this sort of thing, so opinion is all there is.

I’m going to take that as a no. FTR: My question was Real Life.

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/903 "2009-06-24T21:56:46Z")

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Using a neutral source, LostPedia, these are who they have listed as “Major Characters”:

[ol]  
[li]Jack[/li][li]_Kate - Dead[/li][li]Sawyer - Claimed by Meeko[/li][li]Hurley - Dead_[/li][li]Locke[/li][li]_Sayid - Dead_[/li][li]Jin[/li][li]_Sun - Dead_[/li][li]Charlie[/li][li]Claire[/li][li]_Ben - Not a flight 815 survivor, super evil bad guy_[/li][li]Michael[/li][li]_Juliet - Not a flight 815 survivor, loyalties somewhat questionable[/li][li]Desmond - Not a flight 815 survivor, definitely a “good guy”_[/li][li]Walt[/li][li]Shannon[/li][li]Boone[/li][li]_Miles - Not a flight 815 survivor_[/li][li]Ana Lucia[/li][li]_Daniel - Not a flight 815 survivor_[/li][li]Eko[/li][li]Libby[/li][li]_Charlotte - Not a flight 815 survivor[/li][li]Nikki - Claimed by Imaginary Fiend_[/li][li]Paulo[/li][/ol]

Taking those out, we are left with:  
[ol]  
[li]Jack[/li][li]Locke[/li][li]Jin[/li][li]Charlie[/li][li]Claire[/li][li]Michael[/li][li]Walt[/li][li]Shannon[/li][li]Boone[/li][li]Ana Lucia[/li][li]Eko[/li][li]Libby[/li][li]Paulo[/li][/ol]

Overlapping with **storyteller’s** list, we see that he has left off Paulo and Libby, but included Rose and Bernard. I post this for neutral data purposes only. I will for the time being withhold disclosing if I am on either list, until I determine that there is no benefit to scum in revealing it.

Oh, and I believe \*\*telcontar \*\*must be referring to Vincent, the Dog Who Knows Things. Should a dog be included on a list of major characters? He’s been in a lot of episodes…

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/904 "2009-06-24T23:12:05Z")

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> [@ShadowFacts](#):
>
> Oh, and I believe \*\*telcontar \*\*must be referring to Vincent, the Dog Who Knows Things. Should a dog be included on a list of major characters? He’s been in a lot of episodes…

I thought the same. I have been wondering how Mahaloth would “do” vincent, that is, a dog has to have some sort of post restriction, wouldn’t you think?

However, my original question to Tel on the subject went over like a lead balloon.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/905 "2009-06-24T23:14:17Z")

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Incidentally,

If we can trust the list given, we also see 3 Others. [If you weren’t on the plane, you are scum, right?]

1. Ben
2. Miles
3. Daniel

Could this game only have 3 scum?

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/906 "2009-06-24T23:15:18Z")

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NETA :

Nevermind. – UGH :smack:

But I doubt we would have 6 scum, either way.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/907 "2009-06-24T23:37:05Z")

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> [@ShadowFacts](#):
>
> Oh, and I believe \*\*telcontar \*\*must be referring to Vincent, the Dog Who Knows Things. Should a dog be included on a list of major characters? He’s been in a lot of episodes…

Wait, Vincent’s here too?

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**Author:** ![Telcontar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Telcontar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telcontar)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/908 "2009-06-25T02:55:24Z")

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> [@pedescribe](#):
>
> Wait, Vincent’s here too?

i was just saying that he seemed like a major character and wasn’t on any lists.

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/909 "2009-06-25T02:56:32Z")

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> [@pedescribe](#):
>
> Wait, Vincent’s here too?

I have no idea. **telcontar** said he thought there might be someone else on the list of major characters that **story** left out and hinted “woof.” I assumed he was talking about Vincent, and was explaining that to **Meeko** , who asked a question about it. (That was surprisingly complicated to explain, and on preview telcontar beat me to it - blech).

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/910 "2009-06-25T03:17:57Z")

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OK, I’ve got my program finished, except for a slight bug I can’t track down (for some reason, it’s blanking out **Telcontar** ’s name).

To explain the basic idea, it takes every possible combination of people and alignment, discards any that don’t have the right number of Scum, discards any that show too low a level of Scum vote manipulation, discards any that conflict with known facts (there aren’t many of these yet), and counts up all of the scenarios that remain. The final score listed for a person is the number of scenarios in which that person is Scum, so that number divided by the total number of scenarios can be considered approximately as a probability that that person is Scum.

As it stands right now, I’m assuming that the Scum have, in total, voted to save a teammate at least as often as they have voted for a teammate. I’m currently only counting votes as they stood at the end of a Day. I am also assuming that there are exactly four Scum, and that **Meeko** is Town, due to his name claim. All of these assumptions can be varied.

The code:

[spoiler]

```auto

#include <stdio.h>
#define max_scum 4	/* Maximum expected number of Scum */
#define min_scum 4	/* Minimum expected number of Scum */
#define max_bus 0	/* Maximum expected number of busses */

main()
{
  int players[13];	/* Stores the alignment of each player. 0 = Town, 1 = Scum */
  char names[13][20] = {"Telcontar", "AllWalker", "Chronos", "Imaginary Fiend", "Meeko", "USCDiver", "pedescribe", "Scuba Ben", "Zeriel", "ShadowFacts", "Jimmy Chitwood", "storyteller", "cardinal_fang"};
  int n_scum;
  int buses;
  int i;
  int score[13];
  int total_scenarios = 0;
  for(i=0;i<13;i++) score* = 0; /* Initialize everyone's score */

  for(players[0] = 0; players[0] < 2; players[0]++)
  for(players[1] = 0; players[1] < 2; players[1]++)
  for(players[2] = 0; players[2] < 2; players[2]++)
  for(players[3] = 0; players[3] < 2; players[3]++)
  for(players[4] = 0; players[4] < 2; players[4]++)
  for(players[5] = 0; players[5] < 2; players[5]++)
  for(players[6] = 0; players[6] < 2; players[6]++)	/* List all the possibilities */
  for(players[7] = 0; players[7] < 2; players[7]++)
  for(players[8] = 0; players[8] < 2; players[8]++)
  for(players[9] = 0; players[9] < 2; players[9]++)
  for(players[10] = 0; players[10] < 2; players[10]++)
  for(players[11] = 0; players[11] < 2; players[11]++)
  for(players[12] = 0; players[12] < 2; players[12]++)
  for(players[13] = 0; players[13] < 2; players[13]++) {
    n_scum = 0;
    buses = 0;
    for(i=0;i<8;i++) {
      if(players* == 1) n_scum++;	/* Count the number of Scum */
    }

/* Count number of buses-- Only counting final votes */
    if(players[0] && players[3]) buses++;	/* Telcontar voted for Fiend */
    if(players[3] && players[9]) buses++;	/* Fiend voted for ShadowFacts */
    if(players[4] && players[5]) buses++;	/* Meeko voted for BillMC/USCDiver */
    if(players[4] && players[12]) buses++;	/* Meeko voted for cardinal_fang */
    if(players[5] && players[2]) buses++;	/* USCDiver voted for Chronos */
    if(players[6] && players[3]) buses++;	/* pede voted for Fiend */
    if(players[8] && players[1]) buses++;	/* Zeriel voted for AllWalker */
    if(players[9] && players[7]) buses++;	/* ShadowFacts voted for Scuba_Ben */
    if(players[10] && players[6]) buses++;	/* Jimmy Chitwood voted for pede */
    if(players[10] && players[2]) buses++;	/* Jimmy Chitwood voted for Chronos */
    if(players[12] && players[3]) buses++;	/* cardinal_fang voted for Fiend */
    if(players[12] && players[2]) buses++;	/* cardinal_fang voted for Chronos */

/* Count number of un-buses-- Voting to save a fellow Scum */
    if(players[0] && players[2]) buses--;	/* Telcontar saved Chronos */
    if(players[1] && players[3]) buses--;	/* AllWalker saved Fiend */
    if(players[1] && players[2]) buses--;	/* AllWalker saved Chronos */
    if(players[2] && players[3]) buses--;	/* Chronos saved Fiend */
    if(players[6] && players[2]) buses--;	/* pede saved Chronos */
    if(players[7] && players[2]) buses--;	/* Scuba_Ben saved Chronos */
    if(players[8] && players[3]) buses--;	/* Zeriel saved Fiend */
    if(players[9] && players[3]) buses--;	/* ShadowFacts saved Fiend */
    if(players[11] && players[3]) buses--;	/* storyteller saved Fiend */
    if(players[11] && players[2]) buses--;	/* storyteller saved Chronos */
    if((min_scum<=n_scum)&&(n_scum<=max_scum)&&(buses<=max_bus)) /* Throw out all scenarios with the wrong number of Scum, or too many buses */

/* Add other assumptions (delete or add any considered appropriate) */
/* if(players[2] == 0) */ /* Assume Chronos Town */
    if(players[4] == 0) /* Assume Meeko Town */
			{
      total_scenarios++;

/* Output all scenarios */
      for(i=0;i<13;i++) {
        if(players* == 0) printf("%s",names*);
        if(players* == 1) { 
          printf("%s",names*);
          score*++;
        }
      }
      printf("
");
    }
  }
  
/* Output scores */
  fprintf(stderr,"Total number of possibilities: %d
",total_scenarios);
  for(i=0;i<13;i++) fprintf(stderr,"%s	%d
",names*,score*);

  return(0);
}

```

[/spoiler]I recommend redirecting output, or it’ll spit out all of the possible scenarios over hundreds of lines. Once more information comes in and the number of players decreases, the number of possibilities will become more manageable. The final scores are output to stderr, not stdout, so they’ll still show up after redirection.

The results, without the assumption that I am innocent:

Total number of possibilities: 1266  
684 [this one should be listed as Telcontar; as I said there’s a bit of a glitch there]  
AllWalker 768  
Chronos 968  
Imaginary Fiend 742  
Meeko 0  
USCDiver 626  
pedescribe 586  
Scuba Ben 690  
Zeriel 618  
ShadowFacts 550  
Jimmy Chitwood 484  
storyteller 768  
cardinal\_fang 498  
The results again, but this time with the assumption added that I am Town:

Total number of possibilities: 298  
170 [again, this should be labeled Telcontar]  
AllWalker 244  
Chronos 0  
Imaginary Fiend 234  
Meeko 0  
USCDiver 228  
pedescribe 126  
Scuba Ben 190  
Zeriel 138  
ShadowFacts 96  
Jimmy Chitwood 100  
storyteller 200  
cardinal\_fang 98  
Yes, I’m quite aware that this does not make me look very good (effectively, my program finds my rescue from lynching, as well as my involvement in **Ichini** ’s lynch, just as suspicious as you all must find it), but that’s what the numbers say. From my point of view, this makes **ShadowFacts** , **cardinal\_fang** , and **Jimmy Chitwood** look pretty good, and suggests that in addition to my suspicion of **Imaginary Fiend** and **storyteller** , I ought to also look closely at **AllWalker** and **USCDiver**.

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/911 "2009-06-25T03:18:40Z")

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> [@Telcontar](#):
>
> This is pointless and will take forever. we should get it out of the way.
> 
> The only information the survey itself gives scum is, potentially, information about which players have minor character names. These players are more likely to be vanilla. Having said that, 1.) it doesn’t really matter that much 2.) it’s a weak tell at best 3.) story left off at least one name that I both expected to be in the game and expected to see as a power role (well, based on my reading of the wiki and my love of furry pets), so not being on his list isn’t even confirmation of vanilla.
> 
> hint: woof.

That would be funny in many ways. In the last game I moderated, one of the characters was Vincent, The Dog Who Knows Things.

That said, I would not consider Vincent to be a major character.

And without impeaching the perfection of LostPedia, I stand by my assertion that Rose and Bernard are much more “major” characters than Nikki and Paulo, who were one-shot characters and haven’t appeared on the show at all in more than two years.

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/912 "2009-06-25T03:23:25Z")

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> [@ShadowFacts](#):
>
> Overlapping with **storyteller’s** list, we see that he has left off Paulo and Libby, but included Rose and Bernard. I post this for neutral data purposes only. I will for the time being withhold disclosing if I am on either list, until I determine that there is no benefit to scum in revealing it…

How are you planning to determine that?

Ugh. I think I need a sabbatical. I’m getting way too frustrated by playing this game lately. So many players are so determined to avoid doing anything that might, conceivably, in some context and in some way, help the Scum, that we’re collectively unwilling to do _anything_ at all. There’s this crushing anxiety; we’ve become so determined to consider every possibility that it paralyzes everything.

Feh. I’ll be around tomorrow (Thursday), and will try to finish my analysis then. After that, I’ll be in Baltimore and DC (baseball road trip!) through Sunday night, so I’ll miss the beginning of Day Three, if I am alive for it, until Monday morning.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/913 "2009-06-25T03:34:22Z")

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Oh, I should also mention how to add things like detective claims, in case I’m not still alive to do that if it comes up. Let’s say, for example, that **Telcontar** (player 0 on the list) claims Detective, and says that **AllWalker** (player 1) is Scum and **Chronos** (player 2) is Town. We then have two known statements:  
If Telcontar is Town then AllWalker is Scum  
and  
If Telcontar is Town then Chronos is Town  
So for any scenario to be valid, either Telcontar is Scum or AllWalker is Scum, and either Telcontar is Scum or Chronos is Town. So you’d add the following two lines in the “other assumptions” section of the code:

```auto

if((players[0] == 1) || (players[1] == 1))
if((players[0] == 1) || (players[2] == 0))

```

This will restrict it to only consider scenarios consistent with the fact of the claim. A Mason claim can be treated like two Detective claims, or more simply by something like

```auto

if(players[0] == players[1])

```

for a claim that Telcontar and AllWalker are Masons.

And as people are killed or otherwise verified one way or the other, you can just add statements asserting what they are. For instance, if **Telcontar** and **AllWalker** are both killed toNight, and Telcontar comes up Scum and AllWalker comes up Town, then you’d add the lines

```auto

if(players[0] == 1)
if(players[1] == 0)

```

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/914 "2009-06-25T03:37:05Z")

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> [@storyteller0910](#):
>
> How are you planning to determine that?
> 
> Ugh. I think I need a sabbatical. I’m getting way too frustrated by playing this game lately. So many players are so determined to avoid doing anything that might, conceivably, in some context and in some way, help the Scum, that we’re collectively unwilling to do _anything_ at all. There’s this crushing anxiety; we’ve become so determined to consider every possibility that it paralyzes everything.
> 
> Feh. I’ll be around tomorrow (Thursday), and will try to finish my analysis then. After that, I’ll be in Baltimore and DC (baseball road trip!) through Sunday night, so I’ll miss the beginning of Day Three, if I am alive for it, until Monday morning.

I…what? This game has been more active than the last two or three, and there’s been some wild and crazy tactics in play.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/915 "2009-06-25T03:50:26Z")

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I just feel that Scum are over the top organized this game.

I think we need NEW info, and need to, heh, go to town with it.

too bad that info only comes with loss of players.☹

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**Author:** ![Telcontar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Telcontar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telcontar)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/916 "2009-06-25T04:08:28Z")

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when does night end?

note: i’ll be much less active than usual after tomorrow. Going away with my girlfriend for friday and saturday and moving monday and tuesday. I’ll get certainly read and get a vote in Tomorrow, but don’t expect my usual level of posting.

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**Author:** ![Telcontar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Telcontar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telcontar)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/917 "2009-06-25T04:09:54Z")

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oh, Chronos, can you rerun the program looking at all votes, not just end of day votes?

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**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/918 "2009-06-25T04:16:45Z")

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> [@storyteller0910](#):
>
> 1. Jack Shepard
> 2. John Locke
> 3. Jin Kwon
> 4. Charlie Pace
> 5. Claire Littleton
> 6. Michael Dawson
> 7. Shannon Rutherford
> 8. Boone Carlyle
> 9. Ana-Lucia Cortes
> 10. “Mister Eko”
> 11. Bernard Nadler
> 12. Rose Henderson Nadler
> 13. Waaaaaaaaaalt (Walt)
> 
> \<snip\>
> 
> Is everyone who has not currently claimed willing to indicate, very simply, whether they appear on the list above?
> 
> I am willing, and yes, I appear on that list.

At the risk of pissing off **storyteller** , this information could help the Scum. Players whose names are not on this list could be leapt on as Scum, and the Scum could use this as a datapoint to be used against innocent Townies. This is especially true if the Scum have aliases in the above list - with all the characters in the show, there is no reason to think that **Mahaloth** would have used each and every one of these names. If he had skipped just one or two, this gives Scum with very powerful aliases.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/919 "2009-06-25T04:18:44Z")

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> [@Telcontar](#):
>
> when does night end?

\*\*Day Three will begin on Friday, June 26, at Noon Eastern. Any Night Actions must be in by 11:59 AM on Friday. \*\*

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/920 "2009-06-25T10:38:22Z")

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> [@AllWalker](#):
>
> At the risk of pissing off **storyteller** , this information could help the Scum. Players whose names are not on this list could be leapt on as Scum, and the Scum could use this as a datapoint to be used against innocent Townies. This is especially true if the Scum have aliases in the above list - with all the characters in the show, there is no reason to think that **Mahaloth** would have used each and every one of these names. If he had skipped just one or two, this gives Scum with very powerful aliases.

These are not ways in which the information could help the Scum. These are a way in which we could _misuse_ the information, and a way in which the information isn’t perfect, respectively.

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