# Lost Mafia/Werewolf/Psychopath **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 10, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337 "2009-06-10T15:43:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 64
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1261 "2009-07-06T00:18:51Z")
Was hoping for a vote count. Hrm. I hate voting. Have I said that? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1262 "2009-07-06T00:32:42Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > **Meeko** , I do have a question about your power. Assuming you have enough bullets, can you shoot more than one person per night? If so, then you could, at some point, just shoot everyone that you don’t consider confirmed (provided you have enough bullets). In this case, Town would effectively win as soon as the number of unconfirmed folks is less than or equal to your number of bullets. I reread the question. The short answer is **Yes.** I thought you were asking for more information than that. FTR: I am really, \*\* REALLY\*\* mixed and compounded on Chronos this game. I’m probably at the point now, where you could tell me you were scum, and I would still not vote for you. But, Town needs solidarity now. Town needs to make it so we can’t lose out to last minute hyjinx again. **Unvote Chronos** **Vote Pede.** [Is there some record for re-voting a player in the same DAY?] ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1263 "2009-07-06T00:47:02Z")
Just a reminder, everyone: With **pedescribe** apparently no longer being active in the game (for whatever reason), we could toNight ask for **Mahaloth** to modkill him, which would free us up to lynch someone else instead right now. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1264 "2009-07-06T00:52:58Z")
Oh, I should also say that I’m fine with lynching anyone in the unconfirmed pool, as long as that person has a chance to claim something that might save them. And the unconfirmed pool should be considered to include both **USCDiver** and **Scuba\_Ben** – Scuba’s role-claim doesn’t really provide any evidence one way or the other, and **USCDiver** may know he’s Town, but the rest of us don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1265 "2009-07-06T01:05:58Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Just a reminder, everyone: With **pedescribe** apparently no longer being active in the game (for whatever reason), we could toNight ask for **Mahaloth** to modkill him, which would free us up to lynch someone else instead right now. I second this, but I will not be the one to ask. ---
**Author:** ![Telcontar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Telcontar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telcontar)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1266 "2009-07-06T01:37:13Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Just a reminder, everyone: With **pedescribe** apparently no longer being active in the game (for whatever reason), we could toNight ask for **Mahaloth** to modkill him, which would free us up to lynch someone else instead right now. Perhaps he’ll be back tomorrow. weekend ending and all (unless i missed something?). ---
**Author:** ![Telcontar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Telcontar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telcontar)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1267 "2009-07-06T01:50:38Z")
NETA: At the moment pedescribe is my top suspicion (see my previous posts on this). I’ve been holding off voting for him in hopes that another case might catch my eye, but so far nothing has. I think scuba, from everything that happened yesterday, is currently my number 2. As for now though: **vote pedescribe** If we ultimately decide to mod kill him I’ll move off him and onto scuba in short order, so i wanted to highlight that possibility in this post. As for scuba, I’m seconding Allwalker’s and Shadow’s points: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11296768&postcount=1045](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11296768&postcount=1045) [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11287774&postcount=975](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11287774&postcount=975) ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1268 "2009-07-06T02:09:29Z")
So are we waiting on the rest of the claims then? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1269 "2009-07-06T02:33:14Z")
Another point: Now that we know **AllWalker** was Town, it might not be a bad idea to re-examine [his idea](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11248348#post11248348) of looking at those who didn’t say their name matched their alignment. It seemed like a good idea at the time, to me, and we can now be certain that he didn’t have a scummy motivation for posting the list. Out of the folks I’m still unsure about, that leaves **Zeriel** , **ShadowFacts** , and **Jimmy Chitwood**. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1270 "2009-07-06T03:13:19Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Oh, I should also say that I’m fine with lynching anyone in the unconfirmed pool, as long as that person has a chance to claim something that might save them. And the unconfirmed pool should be considered to include both **USCDiver** and **Scuba\_Ben** – Scuba’s role-claim doesn’t really provide any evidence one way or the other, and **USCDiver** may know he’s Town, but the rest of us don’t. I find it quite amazing that you can say this without any trace of irony. I’ll repeat: Just because you have declared yourself confirmed does not make it so. As far as I’m concerned, you are still in the unconfirmed pool, splashing right next to me and the rest of us. That said, I agree with your earlier point about **pedescribe**. If he’s not playing, let’s let **Mahaloth** take care of him, assuming he will reveal **pede’s** info upon death. And now that I say that, I should ask: **Mahaloth, if you modkill someone, will you reveal their role and/or alignment?** ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1271 "2009-07-06T03:14:45Z")
That list also included yourself, **Ichini** , and proxy **USCDiver**. Yourself I can believe you’re sure about. We know **Ichini** was town. How are you sure about **USC** , though? ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1272 "2009-07-06T03:15:47Z")
Apologies; prior post was addressed to **Chronos**. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1273 "2009-07-06T03:37:56Z")
Can anyone at all verify anyone else, based on “powers” they had in their role pm? This goes for everyone not just masons, assuming we even have masons. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1274 "2009-07-06T03:40:17Z")
Also: I am out of town for Monday the 6th. FYI FTR CYA ETC ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1275 "2009-07-06T03:43:53Z")
> [@](#): > > That list also included yourself, Ichini, and proxy USCDiver. Whoops, I forgot that **USCDiver** was a sub. Yeah, he (or rather, his alter-ego **BillMC** ) is on the list, too. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1276 "2009-07-06T03:46:17Z")
Quoth **ShadowFacts** : > [@](#): > > I find it quite amazing that you can say this without any trace of irony. I’ll repeat: Just because you have declared yourself confirmed does not make it so. As far as I’m concerned, you are still in the unconfirmed pool, splashing right next to me and the rest of us. OK, then, why do _you_ think that **AllWalker** trusted me so much? ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1277 "2009-07-06T13:14:02Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Oh, I should also say that I’m fine with lynching anyone in the unconfirmed pool, as long as that person has a chance to claim something that might save them. And the unconfirmed pool should be considered to include both **USCDiver** and **Scuba\_Ben** – Scuba’s role-claim doesn’t really provide any evidence one way or the other, and **USCDiver** may know he’s Town, but the rest of us don’t. I don’t particularly like supporting cases against me, but I do have to point out that **Chronos** is correct: USCDiver hasn’t really claimed, and my claim is not verifiable in and of itself. So for practical purposes we both count as unclaimed. I’ll aim to go through BillMC / USCDiver’s post history tonight. Who wants to cover someone from the rest of the unknown pool? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1278 "2009-07-06T13:51:03Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#): > > **Mahaloth, if you modkill someone, will you reveal their role and/or alignment?** **Yes, it works like any other death in the game.** ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1279 "2009-07-06T14:22:45Z")
(to the tune of the log song) It’s fluuuu fluuu it’s big it’s feverish it’s prevented me from playing the weekend. > [@Chronos](#): > > Quoth **ShadowFacts** :OK, then, why do _you_ think that **AllWalker** trusted me so much? I think the evidence that **AllWalker** trusted you so much is sketchy at best, personally. I mean, I’d expect him to be clearer if he was actually trying to breadcrumb–by which I mean, especially in the case of you and storyteller, he only had time for one investigation or whatever when he first said TWO people were less suspicious to him. That to me is weak in terms of crumbing. It’s that kind of unclear thinking that is the reason we haven’t caught any scum yet. In other news: **Meeko’s** claim: It does put another entry in the semi-confirmed pool which is helpful. Please continue being smart about who you do and don’t shoot. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1280 "2009-07-06T17:02:36Z")
> [@](#): > > In other news: Meeko’s claim: It does put another entry in the semi-confirmed pool which is helpful. Please continue being smart about who you do and don’t shoot. Except that he was already semi-confirmed from his pre-alias claim. > [@](#): > > I mean, I’d expect him to be clearer if he was actually trying to breadcrumb–by which I mean, especially in the case of you and storyteller, he only had time for one investigation or whatever when he first said TWO people were less suspicious to him. Only time for one investigation? How do you figure? I made a statement as to my towniness on Day 1, **AllWalker** had time to investigate me on Night 1, he started saying on Day 2 that he trusted me, **storyteller** made a statement as to his towniness on Day 2, **AllWalker** had a chance to investigate **storyteller** on Night 2, and he said that he trusted both of us on Day 3. Presumably, he investigated someone on Night 3, too, but then died before he could tell us anything about it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337.md?page=63) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337.md?page=65)