# Lost Mafia/Werewolf/Psychopath **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 10, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337 "2009-06-10T15:43:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 74
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1461 "2009-07-08T15:45:39Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > What is the current Opinion on a Scum Roleblocker in the game? My 2 NIS: Either we have a Scum Roleblocker, or story lied about his Night 2 investigation of Telcontar returning no result and his Night 3 investigation of ShadowFacts returning no result. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1462 "2009-07-08T15:46:17Z")
Sigh. **Chronos** , you know, you’re absolutely right about that? I guess it doesn’t really matter either way at this point, but what’s the point of a protest vote: **Unvote pedescribe vote ShadowFacts** ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1463 "2009-07-08T15:47:31Z")
I get the feeling **Meeko** is planning a bloodbath. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1464 "2009-07-08T15:48:42Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > **Jimmy** , I don’t think that **pede** is making the best plays, either, but the fact remains that there was no Scum-kill Night 2, and **pede** ’s claimed role is the only explanation anyone has offered for that. If **pede** is Scum, then we’re forced to the conclusion that Scum deliberately gave up their Night-kill just to set up some elaborate gambit that they couldn’t have known if it would even work, and I can’t see any gambit being worth that. Hadn’t even considered that point. Jimmy, the situation is really pretty simple. You’re looking for a clean explanation, and the cleanest explanation is: Meeko, ped, and I are all telling the truth. There is a Scum role blocker. On Night One, ped blocktected me. On Night Two, he blocktected ShadowFacts, and either Shadow was the designated Night killer for the Scum or he was the Scum’s target that Night. On Night Two, the Scum role-blocker, alerted to the possibility that I had a power role by my statements about having possibly been blocked (which were stupid, and I regret them, by the way; I should have just shut the hell up), blocked me. On Night Three, pedescribe did not blocktect Shadow or anyone. Why would he? If Shadow was Scum, and ped had to be alert to that possibility, protecting him would have been stupid - what if the Vig targeted Shadow and Shadow didn’t die? If Shadow was Scum, the Scum would surely have been alert to the possibility that Shadow himself was blocked - especially since they knew he’d been protected, so a Doctor protection wasn’t responsible for the missed kill. They’d have changed up their designated killer for Night Three. This is the simplest solution, and almost certainly the correct one. We almost certainly, based on the Town power roles, are dealing with a total of four Scum, which means toMorrow (assuming the Scum night kill me, Meeko, or ped) we will have nine players alive. If we’re right about Shadow, then it’ll be 6-3, Town, and we’ll be in good shape. If we’re wrong, it’ll be 5-4, Town, and we’ll be at lynch-or-lose but have a 4/7 chance of getting it right as long as we stop dicking around with me and pedescribe and Meeko. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1465 "2009-07-08T15:49:27Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > I get the feeling **Meeko** is planning a bloodbath. I’m here to chew bubble gum, and kick ass. And I just ran out of gum. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1466 "2009-07-08T15:50:24Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > I’m here to chew bubble gum, and kick ass. And I just ran out of gum. Seriously, Meeko, you need to play in every game forever. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1467 "2009-07-08T15:51:27Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > Seriously, Meeko, you need to play in every game forever. What? Why do you say that? I’m 99% sure that’s a Duke Nukem Quote. But, hey, if it fits… ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1468 "2009-07-08T15:54:17Z")
The original quote is Rowdy Roddy Piper in They Live, actually. It’s quoted all over the place. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1469 "2009-07-08T15:55:21Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > The original quote is Rowdy Roddy Piper in They Live, actually. It’s quoted all over the place. I’m just saying, It wasn’t mine. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1470 "2009-07-08T15:59:58Z")
[CUT TO: close up of Boone] Well, you bastards finally managed to get something right. I guess even a broken clock is right twice a day. I’m not really Boone, I’m **Dr.** **Ethan Rom, surgeon and kidnapper!** [cue dramatic music] That’s right, while you idiots have been blundering around in the dark, I’ve been picking you off at night. Like shooting fish in a barrel. And I’m sure now that you’ve caught me, you think you’re going to turn the tide. Well, you can forget about that! You’ll never find my compatriots, they are too smart and powerful for you bunch of hosers. (What? No, I’m not Canadian, I just like that term. Shut up – I’m talking here.) You will all either die…or join us! **Muahahahahahahhahaha!** [cue _really_ dramatic music, plus some cool lightning] I’ll see you in Hell, you surprisingly good-looking bunch of crash survivors! ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1471 "2009-07-08T16:01:23Z")
_Applause for the kidnapper’s farewell speech_ ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1472 "2009-07-08T16:01:51Z")
Can we all unvote him now just to keep our perfect loss record?? ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1473 "2009-07-08T16:02:11Z")
So, to be clear, you were a good guy? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1474 "2009-07-08T16:03:35Z")
\*\*\*\*Previously on Lost: “If you don’t say anything, we’re going to have you killed!” yelled a few people early in the morning. Clearly desperate, the Survivors continued to bicker amongst themselves, looking for some kind of system or methodology to find Others. Some claimed to have “magic” powers. Some claimed to have “abilities”, but no one knew who could be trusted…if anyone. One or two voices shouted, “It’s ShadowFacts! He’s not one of us! He’s….an Other!!!” Mob mentality took over quickly. ShadowFacts didn’t even plead. He simply tried to be rational with an increasingly irrational crowd. It didn’t take. “Fuck all 'yall, Motherfuckers!” The Survivor gathered around ShadowFacts and stoned him to death. It wasn’t pretty, but they enjoyed it. But who was ShadowFacts? And now on Lost: **[COLOR=“DarkRed”]You have lynched ShadowFacts, who was Ethan Rom, an ordinary Other.** \*\* It is now Night. Day Five begins on Friday, July 10, at Noon Eastern.[/COLOR]\*\* ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1475 "2009-07-08T16:04:38Z")
WELL, IT’S ABOUT FREAKING TIME!!! Er… I mean… Ethan… the _Island_ is displeased with you. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1476 "2009-07-08T16:05:11Z")
[Out of character] Thanks for a fun game, everyone! I hope I didn’t drive you too crazy (except you, **story** , I hope I drove you really, really crazy.) 😛 Enjoy the rest of the game! GO SCUM! [/OOC] ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1477 "2009-07-08T16:05:11Z")
**WOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOO** It’s stuff like that, that makes what I gotta do, a LOT more fun. Oh, and I can save a bullet for tommorow this was, too. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1478 "2009-07-08T16:06:26Z")
NETA: This way, too ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1479 "2009-07-08T16:09:08Z")
Well _that_’s a relief. I’m not sure how much actual information that gives us, but I think that under the circumstances, I can settle for not learning much. Now if we could just nab that pesky Roleblocker… ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1480 "2009-07-08T16:19:37Z")
I think we got a LOT of information. “Ordinary Other” implies the existence of non-ordinary Other. My suggestion is that pede block someone and try to either disrupt the Scum’s kill or counter-block the Scum’s blocker. And as Meeko is going to shoot off some ammo, now I will quote a classic cartoon: Bugs Bunny (Starts to swing Elmer Fudd’s shotgun towards Daffy, then points it at himself): Rabbit season. Daffy Duck (Grabs the gun, points it at himself): Duck season! FIRE! Elmer Fudd: BOOM [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337.md?page=73) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337.md?page=75)