# Lost Mafia/Werewolf/Psychopath

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 10, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337 "2009-06-10T15:43:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![cardinal\_fang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardinal_fang/32/15316_2.png) [@cardinal\_fang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cardinal_fang)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1541 "2009-07-09T04:54:28Z")

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Neta: 🙂

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1542 "2009-07-09T05:12:11Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#):
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> You said you did. Didn’t you protect him and thus block his action?

Alright, lemme rephrase that:

The way my role works, if someone is roleblocked, they’ll know they were blocked. They’ll only know they were protected _if someone tried to kill them_. Meaning that unless someone attempted to kill Shadow Facts, he wouldn’t have known that he was protected that night.

But he did know. Or the scum guessed.

So why? Did someone try to kill Shadow? Or did they guess correctly?

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1543 "2009-07-09T05:46:56Z")

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Ah; I was confused because initially you asked who _prevented_ the kill, not who attempted it.

Presumably there’s no way he guessed and managed to post the correct PM. If that’s how your role works, then **Meeko** must have targeted him.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1544 "2009-07-09T06:52:02Z")

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> [@](#):
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> The way my role works, if someone is roleblocked, they’ll know they were blocked. They’ll only know they were protected if someone tried to kill them.

I thought it was the other way around: They’ll know they were protected, but the only indication they’ll have of the block will be a vague message telling them their power (whatever it was) failed. At least, that’s what [your PM](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11317856&postcount=1427) said:

> [@](#):
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> 1. Every Night, you may protect one person. They will receive a PM indicating that when they awoke the next Day, they felt “vague sense of protection”
> 2. However, because you are paranoid, every person you protect will also be role blocked, losing their Night Action(if they have one). If their power was attempted, they will receive a vague PM indicating that their power failed for some reason.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1545 "2009-07-09T06:52:44Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> I thought it was the other way around: They’ll know they were protected, but the only indication they’ll have of the block will be a vague message telling them their power (whatever it was) failed. At least, that’s what [your PM](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11317856&postcount=1427) said:

Mm…maybe I got them mixed up.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1546 "2009-07-09T06:53:46Z")

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NETA: But if you had interpreted it the other way around, then suddenly the posts you made just before Dawn actually make sense now. I was wondering why you thought it significant that **Shadow** knew he’d been protected.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1547 "2009-07-09T14:13:24Z")

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> [@pedescribe](#):
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> Mm…maybe I got them mixed up.

All I know, is that I have not targeted Shadow this game.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1548 "2009-07-09T14:52:02Z")

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1. Every Night, you may protect one person. They will receive a PM indicating that when they awoke the next Day, they felt “vague sense of protection”
2. However, because you are paranoid, every person you protect will also be role blocked, losing their Night Action(if they have one). If their power was attempted, they will receive a vague PM indicating that their power failed for some reason.

> [@pedescribe](#):
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> Alright, lemme rephrase that:
> 
> The way my role works, if someone is roleblocked, they’ll know they were blocked. They’ll only know they were protected _if someone tried to kill them_. Meaning that unless someone attempted to kill Shadow Facts, he wouldn’t have known that he was protected that night.
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> But he did know. Or the scum guessed.
> 
> So why? Did someone try to kill Shadow? Or did they guess correctly?

> [@pedescribe](#):
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> Mm…maybe I got them mixed up.

Do you mind explaining this again? There is confusion here, and once that is cleared up, it will be better for Town.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1549 "2009-07-09T18:21:09Z")

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_Sets out rum cocktails for the spirits of the Dead players_

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1550 "2009-07-09T21:38:30Z")

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Turns out the hotel has free internet, so I’ll check in a few times through the weekend, but don’t expect too much substantive posting. Sorry I haven’t been more fun, but I don’t post just for shits and giggles or to get my numbers up. I post when I have something to say.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1551 "2009-07-09T21:47:07Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
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> 1. Every Night, you may protect one person. They will receive a PM indicating that when they awoke the next Day, they felt “vague sense of protection”
> 2. However, because you are paranoid, every person you protect will also be role blocked, losing their Night Action(if they have one). If their power was attempted, they will receive a vague PM indicating that their power failed for some reason.
> 
> Do you mind explaining this again? There is confusion here, and once that is cleared up, it will be better for Town.

I had, inadvertently, reversed them in my mind. Thus, I had thought that Shadow must have been attacked, since he felt healed.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1552 "2009-07-10T01:58:09Z")

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> [@USCDiver](#):
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> I don’t post just for shits and giggles or to get my numbers up. I post when I have something to say.

I’m not sure how best to put this, but this is at best a mischaracterization of my play style.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1553 "2009-07-10T02:01:17Z")

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It is worth pointing out that it takes a bit of extrapolation to read **USCDiver** ’s post as directly concerning yourself. I didn’t read that as any sort of a characterization of your play style.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1554 "2009-07-10T02:23:27Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#):
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> It is worth pointing out that it takes a bit of extrapolation to read **USCDiver** ’s post as directly concerning yourself. I didn’t read that as any sort of a characterization of your play style.

I’m the type of person where I work better with things that are blunt.

I assume that USCD read the “20% of the posts, do you want a cookie” and Mahaloth’s interjection that, despite good intentions, my posting activity is tit for tat with Crimson.

Speaking of the road to hell.

I have just put in my PM to Mahaloth.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1555 "2009-07-10T02:38:16Z")

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Hey, could you knock off the racket? It’s hard to sleep through all these gunshots.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1556 "2009-07-10T02:47:27Z")

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It Dawns on me, that I might not make it to dawn. Further, I might get roleblocked.

**Telcontar  
Jimmy Chitwood  
Scuba**

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If I am blocked, and/or die, Please look at these people for me.\*\*  
**Chronos,** I still can’t read you. Even with what you say Allwalker says about you. If you roleblock me, well, I wouldn’t be surprised. If you want to find the “pesky role blocker” you might want to look in the mirror first.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1557 "2009-07-10T03:07:13Z")

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Gee, that’s a shocking list.

Well, you killed at least one townie, if those are the kills you submitted. Sure hope you were at least 50/50 with the other two.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1558 "2009-07-10T03:35:46Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#):
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> if those are the kills you submitted.

Yes. This is the question, isn’t it?

I will check back in with the game tomorrow.

I will be doing more yard work tomorrow AM.

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**Author:** ![Telcontar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Telcontar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telcontar)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1559 "2009-07-10T04:54:02Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
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> It Dawns on me, that I might not make it to dawn. Further, I might get roleblocked.
> 
> **Telcontar  
> Jimmy Chitwood  
> Scuba**
> 
> \*\*  
> If I am blocked, and/or die, Please look at these people for me.\*\*  
> **Chronos,** I still can’t read you. Even with what you say Allwalker says about you. If you roleblock me, well, I wouldn’t be surprised. If you want to find the “pesky role blocker” you might want to look in the mirror first.

Interesting list. Kind of surprised to see my name on it, don’t think you’re really pushed after me. Why do you think town should take a closer look?

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1560 "2009-07-10T13:46:07Z")

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Hrm. perhaps I should go shoot some more people.

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