# Lost Mafia/Werewolf/Psychopath **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 10, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337 "2009-06-10T15:43:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 88
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1741 "2009-07-15T15:33:44Z")
After further thought: On Day 2, I drew suspicion for voting for people with weak reasons – mainly from **Meeko** , our presumed Vig, and **ShadowFacts** , since proven Scum. Now I’m drawing suspicion from **Telcontar** for not voting due to having weak reasons. There ain’t no justice. ---
**Author:** ![Telcontar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Telcontar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telcontar)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1742 "2009-07-15T15:38:51Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > After further thought: > > On Day 2, I drew suspicion for voting for people with weak reasons – mainly from **Meeko** , our presumed Vig, and **ShadowFacts** , since proven Scum. Now I’m drawing suspicion from **Telcontar** for not voting due to having weak reasons. > > There ain’t no justice. No, there ain’t. Though it’s important to have good reasons to vote and to vote for the right people, it’s also really important to just vote. Keeps views on record, allows for analysis, etc. I am still highly suspicious of you but, to avoid someone making a last minute tie, I think I’ll cast the decisive vote to bury Zeriel. Regardless of what I think about Diver, I don’t want to leave the door open for scum to swoop down and save someone as suspicious looking as Zeriel. **unvote scuba.** **vote zeriel** ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1743 "2009-07-15T15:39:40Z")
Ugh. This blows. I know I said I would catch up, and I have failed. A major family health issue has intervened significantly, and my participation is going to be limited by my situation a bit going forward. I apologize. As for toDay, I think we’re in a bad place. Here’s the count: Zeriel(4): Jimmy Chitwood, Chronos, Meeko, USCDiver USCDiver(3): CardinalFang, Zeriel, Scuba\_Ben ScubaBen(1): Telcontar I am trying now to figure out how to read the situation. Telecontar’s abrupt and late abandonment of the USC Diver train - which has essentially assured that USC Diver will _not_ be lynched toDay - has made me somewhat suspicious of Telecontar. I have as little read on Zeriel as on anyone in the game, so I’m not particularly averse to his apparently imminent lynching. So here’s the deal. **My principled vote would be for USC Diver**. For a variety of reasons, I think he is most likely to be Scum of those remaining. However, I am reluctant to risk a tie (although the part of me that really really really hates unknowns wants to try out a tie just to see what happens). So at the moment I am voting for no one, because voting for my preferred candidate would generate an undesirable tie. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1744 "2009-07-15T15:40:53Z")
Ah, well, Telecontar has simplified things: **vote USCDiver** ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1745 "2009-07-15T15:41:02Z")
And due to the simulpost, it’s now 5-3 Zeriel. Story, care to cast your principled vote, and see if anybody pulls a last-minute switch? ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1746 "2009-07-15T15:42:07Z")
Yay, more simulposts! (There may be a small delay in posting this, I’m waiting out the 60 second timer… 6 more seconds…) ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1747 "2009-07-15T15:50:04Z")
\*\*Vote Total: USCDiver(4): CardinalFang, Zeriel, ScubaBen, Storyteller Zeriel(5): Jimmy Chitwood, Chronos, Meeko, USCDiver, Telcontar\*\* ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1748 "2009-07-15T15:55:44Z")
For the record, I consider a no-vote to be exactly as bad as voting for Town, since either way, you’re not doing anything to find Scum. Casting a vote, even randomly, at least has a chance to come up Scum, so Town should always vote. ---
**Author:** ![Telcontar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Telcontar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telcontar)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1749 "2009-07-15T15:57:54Z")
And so it goes to lynch, 5-4. what do we win? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1750 "2009-07-15T16:02:47Z")
\*\*Previously on Lost: Only a few people remained from the original group of Survivors. So many had died. So many innocent people had been killed out of paranoia. With the death of Ethan Rom, the Survivors experienced a surge of confidence. When they awoke to find Jack Shepherd dead, they didn’t even blink an eye. They had done it. They had killed an Other and surely, now it would be easy to do it again. Or would it? After deliberating, the Survivors gathered around Zeriel, who could not believe he was being targeted by the group. They picked up stones and assorted rocks, and pummeled him until he was dead. But who was Zeriel really? **You have lynched Zeriel, who was Benjamin Linus, an Other Roleblocker.** It is now Night. Day Six will begin on Thursday, at Noon Eastern. \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1751 "2009-07-15T16:04:40Z")
Boo ya! ---
**Author:** ![Telcontar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Telcontar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telcontar)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1752 "2009-07-15T16:04:46Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > \*\*Previously on Lost: > > Only a few people remained from the original group of Survivors. So many had died. So many innocent people had been killed out of paranoia. > > With the death of Ethan Rom, the Survivors experienced a surge of confidence. When they awoke to find Jack Shepherd dead, they didn’t even blink an eye. > > They had done it. They had killed an Other and surely, now it would be easy to do it again. Or would it? > > After deliberating, the Survivors gathered around Zeriel, who could not believe he was being targeted by the group. They picked up stones and assorted rocks, and pummeled him until he was dead. > > But who was Zeriel really? > > **You have lynched Zeriel, who was Benjamin Linus, an Other Roleblocker.** > > It is now Night. Day Six will begin on Thursday, at Noon Eastern. > \*\* WooT! Okay, now i’m really going to lunch. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1753 "2009-07-15T16:07:28Z")
OK, well, with the role-blocker dead, I guess I’ll say my good-byes to you all now. But rocking. Good work, folks! ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1754 "2009-07-15T16:19:34Z")
Finally, we confirmed the Scum Roleblocker! Now we can… uh, lose our Detective. Time to go through everything Zeriel said & voted, and see what interesting patterns pop out. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1755 "2009-07-15T16:22:14Z")
As icing on the cake, with **Zeriel** coming up Scum, it looks like my vote-analysis program has enough information to draw some real meaningful conclusions now. I haven’t added in toDay’s voting record yet (and won’t until sometime this evening when I get home), but preliminary results with **Zeriel** scum show a very high likelihood that **Scuba\_Ben** is Town. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1756 "2009-07-15T16:36:33Z")
Let me get this straight, **Chronos**. The less I say, the more likely I am Town according to your vote analysis program? I’m curious if there’s any way I can fail worse, as a plain Town. AOP: What other meaningful conclusions popped out of your program, Chronos? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1757 "2009-07-15T16:53:52Z")
There is something to me not comming in early on Wednesday. But, Tell me we are at lylo now. Please. And I will show you a liar. [hopefully] \*\* I don’t have knowlege, I am just saying that another Scum Lynch has to be very good for us. \*\*Zeriel, am I still a Spaz? \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1758 "2009-07-15T16:56:54Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > Finally, we confirmed the Scum Roleblocker! Now we can… uh, lose our Detective. > > Time to go through everything Zeriel said & voted, and see what interesting patterns pop out. What would it look like, if we filtered Shadow and Zeriel over each other? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1759 "2009-07-15T16:58:42Z")
NETA : Despite being incredibly circular on the face, I think it would yield something. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1760 "2009-07-15T17:03:14Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > There is something to me not comming in early on Wednesday. > > But, Tell me we are at lylo now. Please. > > And I will show you a liar. [hopefully] > > \*\* I don’t have knowlege, I am just saying that another Scum Lynch has to be very good for us. > > \*\*Zeriel, am I still a Spaz? \*\* 1. Lylo is short for lynch or lose. Which is bad for town. Lynching scum wouldn’t take you into lylo if you were previously safe. 2. If you have some kind of case against somebody, you should have already made it. 3. If you have some kind of case against somebody, you should be making it whether we’re at lynch or lose or not. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337.md?page=87) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337.md?page=89)