# Lost Mafia/Werewolf/Psychopath **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 10, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337 "2009-06-10T15:43:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 91
**Author:** ![Telcontar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Telcontar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telcontar)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1801 "2009-07-16T15:21:41Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > It’s suspicious to me because I know I’m town and if I had been the one to die, the other players would have come after \*\*Zeriel \*\*tomorrow and those who tried to protect him. I’ve seen it time and time again that a scum will jump on a scum bandwagon at the last minute, even if the vote is close, in order to gain townie cred. If **Zeriel** had not died Yesterday but then was lynched Tomorrow they can point back and say “But I voted for him 2 Days ago, I can’t possibly be Scum!” > > Unless all three of you live in the Far East, 10:15pm, 10:38pm and 10:48pm EDT are not in the morning. > > Ok fine, you’re isn’t identical to **cardinal\_fang’s** , but I noticed you weren’t as quick to compare yours to known scum, [Zeriel’s](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11333076&postcount=1649) Okay, now you’re just being weird. As for me, I do live in the far east. Not sure about the others. when it’s 1040-whatever here it’s 940 central, 840 mountain, and 740 west coast, so pretty firmly morning across the board. And yes, my PM is identical to that of the other person who claimed to be a tail section survivor. That…makes perfect sense. I’m not sure why you’re stuck on something this utterly silly. The main cabin, tail section, freighter, etc PMs all have to be slightly different from each other in that one sentence. And they are, because Mahaloth isn’t a moron. Stop throwing everything against the wall in the hopes that something will stick. Re Story: I was highly suspicious of Diver and, prior to Zeriel’s slip, was quite happy to be voting for him. I’m torn on diver now because diver really did go after zeriel. on the other hand, it was only chance that the final vote came down to one or the other. Absent zeriel’s mistake, we would probably have lynched diver on the strength of meeko, cardinal, and myself and then diver’s attack on zeriel would give mafia-zeriel some town cred. I think I’m willing to accept chronos as confirmed, and I’m rather surprised that he rates quite so high in your suspicions. Can you elaborate a bit on why? I can understand holding the possibility of chronos as scum theoretically open, but he’s high up there. As I said before, I’m a bit concerned about the algorithm. We are in a bit of a bind. Chronos, at least, seems utterly convinced by it and scuba is going along. If a few more members of the town buys into the algorithm, it will be almost impossible to lynch someone other than cardinal or jimmy. Chronos’s algorithm, like scuba’s coin flip yesterday, is a way to avoid being responsible for one’s votes. If Chronos is wrong, all the scum have to do is nod their heads and go along with it in order to win. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1802 "2009-07-16T15:25:25Z")
Re: Diver going after Zeriel: if anyone hasn’t read the off-board Dr. Horrible game moderated by FlyingCowofDoom, you should. In that game, Natlaw (who was Scum) was an instrumental figure in pursuing and lynching NAF (who was the Scum Godfather). The Town went along its merry way assuming Natlaw simply _had_ to be Town, why else would he ever go after the Godfather like that. The Town was saved because the Scum never were able to kill the Investigator, who eventually found Natlaw. At endgame, Scum will do whatever it takes to stay alive, including especially sacrifice one another. Re: Chronos - it is a gut feeling. I have no more evidence than that. Take it for what it’s worth. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1803 "2009-07-16T15:53:36Z")
**story** , with your last few minutes, would you please help me with my game? My play style needs severe rehab, since everything I say triggers everybody’s Scum-detectors, in all three of my games. To reply to **Telcontar** , my coin flip Yesterday had an indeterminate result. I voted for USCDiver to see who would do a last-minute vote switch. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1804 "2009-07-16T15:57:38Z")
NETA, so that story has a chance to see my post and reply. story is quite right that **Chronos** is unconfirmed. My rectalhypothectomic [sup]\*[/sup] estimate of how blocking worked would have made **pedescribe** overly powerful, so the block-tection on Chronos may not have been sufficient to disrupt the night kill. \*rectalhypothectomy – pulling a guess out of one’s ass ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1805 "2009-07-16T16:00:17Z")
[fluff] Dawn – and still very few hauntings. In my previous (second) game, I think I had more posts after Death than while I was Alive. Where are the spirits of the Departed in this game? [/fluff] ---
**Author:** ![Telcontar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Telcontar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telcontar)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1806 "2009-07-16T16:04:59Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > [fluff] > Dawn – and still very few hauntings. In my previous (second) game, I think I had more posts after Death than while I was Alive. Where are the spirits of the Departed in this game? > [/fluff] Yes, but you were dead a REALLY long time. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1807 "2009-07-16T16:05:29Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > [fluff] > Dawn – and still very few hauntings. In my previous (second) game, I think I had more posts after Death than while I was Alive. Where are the spirits of the Departed in this game? > [/fluff] Isn’t that mostly because we ate you on the first night, though? ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1808 "2009-07-16T16:06:11Z")
The only thing worse for game participation than dying on Day 1 or Night 1 is dying on Night Zero. ETA: That’s what happened, Jimmy, and I spent the rest of the game running the Bar of the Damned. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1809 "2009-07-16T16:06:30Z")
(Sorry about that, by the way. Was somebody else’s idea). ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1810 "2009-07-16T16:14:05Z")
And while we’re waiting on Mahaloth… For 1809 posts: Meeko 455 Chronos 186 Jimmy Chitwood 151 Telcontar 138 storyteller0910 134 Mahaloth 107 Scuba\_Ben 104 Zeriel 81 ShadowFacts 77 Tom Scud 66 cardinal\_fang 64 pedescribe 57 USCDiver 45 Meeko has almost as many as Chronos, Jimmy, and Telcontar combined. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1811 "2009-07-16T16:25:08Z")
Mahaloth isn’t even online at the moment. His shiny light is grey, and his last activity was 1 1/2 hours ago. I’m off to lunch. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1812 "2009-07-16T16:33:07Z")
Oh my god. The scum killed **Mahaloth**. Those _bastards_. ---
**Author:** ![Telcontar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Telcontar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telcontar)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1813 "2009-07-16T16:36:57Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > Oh my god. > > The scum killed **Mahaloth**. > > Those _bastards_. Barely resisting the urge to write him a fake death post. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1814 "2009-07-16T16:40:45Z")
Holy shit… maybe Mahaloth… is Jacob. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1815 "2009-07-16T16:50:22Z")
OK, you’re killing me here. I wanna go read the spoiler thread!! ---
**Author:** ![Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc8723/32.png) [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanook_of_the_North_Shore)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1816 "2009-07-16T19:07:01Z")
_ghost voice_ > [@storyteller0910](#): > > OK, you’re killing me here. I wanna go read the spoiler thread!! Sounds to me like the problem is that he’s NOT killing you here. _ghost voice_ ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1817 "2009-07-16T19:18:38Z")
Maybe he forgot to send the memo to himself that he was ending Night on Thursday instead of Friday? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1818 "2009-07-16T20:08:20Z")
Wait, what?! And here I was, I ASKED him. Wow. some 4 hours later… ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1819 "2009-07-16T20:10:03Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > The only thing worse for game participation than dying on Day 1 or Night 1 is dying on Night Zero. > ETA: That’s what happened, Jimmy, and I spent the rest of the game running the Bar of the Damned. has SDMB Mafia Games ever had Suicidal Townies\*? There are a lot of roles that I havent seen over here. \*Yes, I have a cast list already made up. Once I can balance the game out. HEH. What if Meeko threw a Mafia game, an no one came? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/1820 "2009-07-16T20:13:13Z")
That is to say, I have a GREAT Idea. But, [No Offense Mahaloth] I would not want to run into the problem that we had here, with Scummy McScumalot names. **Once this game is over** , I will probably PM a few of you guys for input. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337.md?page=90) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337.md?page=92)