# Lost Returns! Thursday, Jan 31 at 9pm!

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-returns-thursday-jan-31-at-9pm/430398
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [December 18, 2007, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-returns-thursday-jan-31-at-9pm/430398 "2007-12-18T00:07:26Z")
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### Author: ![tanstaafl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba8739/32.png) [@tanstaafl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanstaafl)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2007, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-returns-thursday-jan-31-at-9pm/430398/1 "2007-12-18T00:07:26Z")

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It’s official; _Lost_ season 4 starts on Thursday, January 31 at 9 pm.

[And there is a new, longer trailer](http://www.tvweek.com/blogs/james-hibberd/2007/12/abcs_new_lost_trailer.php).

Let’s just say that things look bad for our heroes. _Really_ bad. Remember that good thing we saw one time? It didn’t look _anything_ like this.

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### Author: ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2007, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-returns-thursday-jan-31-at-9pm/430398/2 "2007-12-18T00:15:39Z")

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Hooray, my birthday present for next year!

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### Author: ![tanstaafl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba8739/32.png) [@tanstaafl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanstaafl)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2007, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-returns-thursday-jan-31-at-9pm/430398/3 "2007-12-18T03:05:30Z")

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Someone has reported problems with that link. [Try this one](http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid824731283?bctid=1347890043).

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### Author: ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2007, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-returns-thursday-jan-31-at-9pm/430398/4 "2007-12-18T07:03:38Z")

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I feel like such a goon. I am totally…TOTALLY excited about this. Almost as exciting as baseball season starting.

_giggle_

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### Author: ![Tikster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@Tikster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tikster)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2007, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-returns-thursday-jan-31-at-9pm/430398/5 "2007-12-18T14:33:25Z")

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Weeeee! I can’t wait!

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### Author: ![zev\_steinhardt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/97f17d/32.png) [@zev\_steinhardt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zev_steinhardt)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2007, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-returns-thursday-jan-31-at-9pm/430398/6 "2007-12-18T15:14:01Z")

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Somehow it figures… LOST comes back on _Thursday_ nights. I’m going to be in school on Thursday nights this coming semester. Oh well, time to fire up the VCR or else watch it online.

If I’m late for the LOST threads, you all know why.

Zev Steinhardt

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### Author: ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2007, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-returns-thursday-jan-31-at-9pm/430398/7 "2007-12-18T15:18:18Z")

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So if I was to go sit in front of the TV now . . . that would be too soon?

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### Author: ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2007, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-returns-thursday-jan-31-at-9pm/430398/8 "2007-12-18T15:59:32Z")

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My great enthusiasm for the return of this show is tempered by the fact that the writers strike is going to return the show to it’s show eight or so episodes and then leave you hanging until whenever season two mess.

Hooray. ☹

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### Author: ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2007, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-returns-thursday-jan-31-at-9pm/430398/9 "2007-12-18T16:27:22Z")

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I knew some of them were left on The Island.

Not sure when the next “Survivor” starts, but that could be a nice one-two punch if there is some overlap.

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### Author: ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2007, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-returns-thursday-jan-31-at-9pm/430398/10 "2007-12-18T17:28:09Z")

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Well, the promo is sure good to get the heart going, but like most promos for lost, I feel … disapointment will be in my future.

Thursday nights - opposite of CSI and Supernatural. (while I can see them ignoring Supernatural, CSI is still leading Thursday nites, right?) Or are they counting on being the only ‘new’ show on Thursday for 8 weeks?

The writers strike does not help this in the least.

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### Author: ![anamnesis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb8c5e/32.png) [@anamnesis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anamnesis)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2007, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-returns-thursday-jan-31-at-9pm/430398/11 "2007-12-18T17:37:32Z")

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So when are we gonna start taking bets about the nature of the season premier?

Each season has opened with a radically different focus on a new faction of the island … Season 1: The Losties, Season 2: The Desmond, Season 3: The Others. Yes, I said The Desmond, because he is The Coolest. I’m predicting this one will begin with the original Others (“The Hostiles”), with a likely focus on Richard. My prediction is a flashback to colonial times where we’ll learn about Black Rock and how it ended up on the island. That episode with young Ben first encountering Richard in colonial dress in the jungle would seem to suggest they’ve been there an awfully long time.

Anyone else have another prediction?

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### Author: ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2007, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-returns-thursday-jan-31-at-9pm/430398/12 "2007-12-18T17:45:46Z")

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[QUOTE=anamnesis]  
So when are we gonna start taking bets about the nature of the season premier?

Each season has opened with a radically different focus on a new faction of the island … Season 1: The Losties, Season 2: The Desmond, Season 3: The Others. Yes, I said The Desmond, because he is The Coolest. I’m predicting this one will begin with the original Others (“The Hostiles”), with a likely focus on Richard. My prediction is a flashback to colonial times where we’ll learn about Black Rock and how it ended up on the island. That episode with young Ben first encountering Richard in colonial dress in the jungle would seem to suggest they’ve been there an awfully long time.

Anyone else have another prediction?  
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Why spoiler the predictions? As long as they’re pure speculation…

Here’s mine:

I’m with you on the continuation of widening the sphere of understanding in a surprising way. But I think it will involve something about The Others off The Island, not on The Island. They will make us think it is on The Island, and then we’ll see that it’s not. Kind of opposite to Season 2 and 3 premier episodes.

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### Author: ![anamnesis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb8c5e/32.png) [@anamnesis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anamnesis)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2007, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-returns-thursday-jan-31-at-9pm/430398/13 "2007-12-18T18:09:14Z")

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[QUOTE=John Mace]  
Why spoiler the predictions? As long as they’re pure speculation…  
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Heh, well, half of it was my speculation … I was assuming the established info on the episodes qualified as spoilers. I can never tell on here. 😃

So who do you predict would be the focal character of such a premier? I doubt it would be Ben; there isn’t any mystery surrounding him anymore. The season openers always start with a character of intrigue, but we learned all about his origins, plus Jack beat him bloody. He is no longer “in control”, and there isn’t nearly as much allure to the character anymore. Richard, on the other hand …

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### Author: ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2007, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-returns-thursday-jan-31-at-9pm/430398/14 "2007-12-18T18:14:47Z")

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[QUOTE=anamnesis]  
HSo who do you predict would be the focal character of such a premier? I doubt it would be Ben; there isn’t any mystery surrounding him anymore. The season openers always start with a character of intrigue, but we learned all about his origins, plus Jack beat him bloody. He is no longer “in control”, and there isn’t nearly as much allure to the character anymore. Richard, on the other hand …  
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I don’t know. But keep in mind that Desmond wasn’t so much a character of intrigue since we knew of him from Jack’s flashbacks. In fact, they had to keep his face hidden during the intro, or we would have recognized him right away. They might do something with Richard like that, too. Or, it might focus on Penny in some way. It could be any number of people.

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### Author: ![tanstaafl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba8739/32.png) [@tanstaafl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanstaafl)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2007, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-returns-thursday-jan-31-at-9pm/430398/15 "2007-12-18T18:26:47Z")

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I doubt they will focus much on Richard since the actor is currently starring in _Cane_ on another network. I suspect he wasn’t available much to them.

I predict that we will start the season focused on one of the people from the freighter we have been hearing so much about.

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### Author: ![Edward\_The\_Head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce73a5/32.png) [@Edward\_The\_Head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edward_The_Head)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2007, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-returns-thursday-jan-31-at-9pm/430398/16 "2007-12-18T18:36:24Z")

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[QUOTE=simster]  
Thursday nights - opposite of CSI and Supernatural. (while I can see them ignoring Supernatural, CSI is still leading Thursday nites, right?) Or are they counting on being the only ‘new’ show on Thursday for 8 weeks?

The writers strike does not help this in the least.  
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There’s also the Office on at 9 on Thursdays, which is what I and a lot of other people watch. I think it’s a dumb move on their part, they had a good time on Wednesdays. I think part of the reason they want to move it is so that they can try and pull people away from the other shows. Now I’ll be forced not to watch and have to record it, which is fine since my wife hates all of the commercials.

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### Author: ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2007, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-returns-thursday-jan-31-at-9pm/430398/17 "2007-12-18T18:43:04Z")

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I can’t see the preview but I’m so psyched about seeing “Lost”! Can someone summarize that new trailer for me?

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### Author: ![tanstaafl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba8739/32.png) [@tanstaafl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanstaafl)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2007, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-returns-thursday-jan-31-at-9pm/430398/18 "2007-12-18T19:14:39Z")

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[QUOTE=well he’s back]  
I can’t see the preview but I’m so psyched about seeing “Lost”! Can someone summarize that new trailer for me?  
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Here’s the gist of it…

> [@](#):
>
> Scene: Exterior shot of the plane breaking up. Interior shot of crash.
> 
> Text: On September 22, 2004, Oceanic Flight 815 was lost.
> 
> Scene: Wreckage on the beach. Survivors around the campfire. (From pilot episode)  
> Kate: The pilot said we were over 1000 miles off course.  
> Claire(?): They don’t know where to look.
> 
> Text: On January 31, 2008
> 
> Scene: Everyone at the radio tower (from end of last season)  
> Jack: I’m one of the survivors of Oceanic 815.  
> Radio: Sit tight, we’ll be right there.
> 
> Scene: Celebrating survivors. Sun and Rose hug.  
> Kate: It’s happening. We’re going to get off this island.
> 
> Text: The Lost…
> 
> Scene: Night and raining. A helicopter with a spotlight hovers over the cockpit wreckage. Jack and several other survivors are waiting there.
> 
> Text: …are found.
> 
> Kate: Are we really going home?  
> Jack: We’re really going home.
> 
> Scene: Night and raining. At the cockpit. Sun hugs Jin.  
> Sun (to Claire): I can’t believe I’m going to have my baby in a hospital.
> 
> Scene: Overhead shot of Locke, looking upwards.
> 
> Scene: Hurley talking to someone on the beach. He jumps into the water and swims.  
> Hurley: When we get rescued, and I get home, I’m gonna be free.
> 
> Desmond: We can’t let them get in touch with that boat.  
> Scene: Charlie trapped in the Looking Glass, showing Desmond the “Not Penny’s Boat” message.  
> Desmond: The people on that boat aren’t who they say they are!
> 
> Scene: Unknown person talking to Jack  
> Unknown: Rescuing your people… I can’t really say that’s our primary objective.  
> Jack: Then what is?
> 
> Locke: Whatever they came for, it isn’t us.
> 
> Scene: Someone lying down pulls a gun on Jack
> 
> Ben: Every single living person on this island will be killed.
> 
> Scene: Sayid gives a gun to Sawyer  
> Sawyer: Here I was thinking I was going to get a good night’s sleep.
> 
> Scene: Lots of fast cuts
> 
> Locke: There’s a traitor in your midst  
> Jack: Let go of me!  
> Hurley: Help! Help!
> 
> Scene: Several survivors pointing guns at another unknown person. A brief glimpse of the Hydra Station logo.  
> Unknown: You want to know why we’re here? I’ll tell you why we’re here!
> 
> Ben: You really don’t stand a chance now.
> 
> Alex (being held back by Kate(?)): No!  
> Locke (pointing gun at Ben): Goodbye, Benjamin.
> 
> Scene: Helicopter flying away from the Island. Some people walking over a hill. Jack and Kate at night.
> 
> Scene: Locke addressing several survivors, including Sayid, Sawyer and Hurley  
> Locke: There isn’t much time. If you want to live, you need to come with me.
> 
> Scene: Kate and Sawyer. Sawyer is walking into the jungle.  
> Kate: What are you doing?  
> Sawyer: Same thing I’ve always done, Kate. Surviving.
> 
> Text: Some will leave the Island.
> 
> Scene: Hurley kneeling at a grave.  
> Hurley: We made a mistake.
> 
> Scene: Sayid and Jin
> 
> Text: Some will not.  
> Jack (voice over text): We… were not supposed to leave.
> 
> Text: Find yourself.
> 
> Scene: Jack and Kate, scene at end of season 3.  
> Jack: We have to go back, Kate! We have to go back!
> 
> Text: Lost: The Return  
> January 31, 2008

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### Author: ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2007, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-returns-thursday-jan-31-at-9pm/430398/19 "2007-12-18T19:32:02Z")

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Wow… and thanks Tanstaafl

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### Author: ![anamnesis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb8c5e/32.png) [@anamnesis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anamnesis)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2007, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-returns-thursday-jan-31-at-9pm/430398/20 "2007-12-18T20:33:12Z")

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Heh, that was a great breakdown, but we all realize that the commercials have never had _anything_ to do with what actually happens, right? ABC’s trailers remind me of those Youtube recuts and mashups of popular movies which make them out to be something completely different than what they are (i.e. The Shining as a heartwarming comedy) 😃

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