# Lost Scheduled 8:00-9:01 to screw the TiVoers? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 29, 2004, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-scheduled-8-00-9-01-to-screw-the-tivoers/271767 "2004-10-29T00:59:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Podkayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Podkayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Podkayne)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-scheduled-8-00-9-01-to-screw-the-tivoers/271767/1 "2004-10-29T00:59:25Z")
We have a ReplayTV. At least according to the schedule that it downloads from the mothership, Lost is scheduled to run from 8:00-9:01, and it does in fact run over. This means that the Replay will not record the West Wing, which starts at 9:00. Is it a deliberate ploy? The nose of the camel of staggered schedule times that will thwart DVRs? I guess that’ll teach _us_ to skip commercials . . . ---
**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-scheduled-8-00-9-01-to-screw-the-tivoers/271767/2 "2004-10-29T01:01:35Z")
In a word: Yep. ABC is hoping you’ll say, “Oh well, guess I’ll watch _The Bachelor_.” ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-scheduled-8-00-9-01-to-screw-the-tivoers/271767/3 "2004-10-29T01:18:46Z")
:pets VCR: “See boy, those new-fangled gadgets don’t compare to you…” 😛 ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-scheduled-8-00-9-01-to-screw-the-tivoers/271767/4 "2004-10-29T01:21:54Z")
Whoops, that should be **: pets VCR:**. :o ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-scheduled-8-00-9-01-to-screw-the-tivoers/271767/5 "2004-10-29T01:36:47Z")
I was laughing about this with a buddy of mine who recently got TiVo. We both watch Lost, and I watch everything via VCR tape in the TiVo style. I hate commercials. We also both watch the King of Queens, and it was a snap for me to program the digital cable to switch channels at 9:01. KoQ appeared to start about 10 seconds before the switch, so for me it was basically ideal. For my friend? Not so much. But ABC is shooting themselves in the foot by rebroadcasting Lost on Saturdays. Why not just tape it then? ---
**Author:** ![Podkayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Podkayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Podkayne)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-scheduled-8-00-9-01-to-screw-the-tivoers/271767/6 "2004-10-29T01:39:05Z")
Your VCR can tape Lost until 9:01 and also tape The West Wing starting at 9:00? If I wanted to, I could set up a manual record for Lost (8:00-9:01) and let The West Wing start at 9:00, or let Lost tape as normal and manually record The West Wing starting at 9:01. But I’d have to set up the recording manually instead of just double-clicking on record, and I still miss the beginning or end of one of the shows. Curse them. Curse them, I say! _shakes fist in impotent rage_ ---
**Author:** ![Podkayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Podkayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Podkayne)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-scheduled-8-00-9-01-to-screw-the-tivoers/271767/7 "2004-10-29T01:42:11Z")
Sorry, **Ellis** , that was meant for **ArchiveGuy.** As soon as we detected their evil, evil, scheme, the first thing we checked for was other showings, but they’re not re-showing this week’s Lost. Or West Wing, either. Bastards. Stupid shows on real networks. Why aren’t they showing every new ep three times a week like Fox and UPN? ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-scheduled-8-00-9-01-to-screw-the-tivoers/271767/8 "2004-10-29T01:45:06Z")
> [@Podkayne](#): > > Your VCR can tape Lost until 9:01 and also tape The West Wing starting at 9:00? No, but I could live without the first minute, which is usually a commercial and “Previously on _The West Wing_…” (of course, this is all hypothetical, since I gave up on Bartlett & Co. last season) ---
**Author:** ![SmackFu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@SmackFu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmackFu)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-scheduled-8-00-9-01-to-screw-the-tivoers/271767/9 "2004-10-29T03:28:07Z")
> [@Podkayne](#): > > or let Lost tape as normal and manually record The West Wing starting at 9:01. I was pretty pissed that I couldn’t do this with my Tivo. It only has 5 minute granularity on prescheduled manual recordings, so I’d have to start my Mythbusters recording at 9:05 and miss 4 minutes of the beginning. So I ended up just recording it by pressing the record button. How primitive. ---
**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-scheduled-8-00-9-01-to-screw-the-tivoers/271767/10 "2004-10-29T04:50:08Z")
> [@SmackFu](#): > > I was pretty pissed that I couldn’t do this with my Tivo. It only has 5 minute granularity on prescheduled manual recordings, so I’d have to start my Mythbusters recording at 9:05 and miss 4 minutes of the beginning. So I ended up just recording it by pressing the record button. How primitive. I tape the Mythbusters re-air at midnight. I presume the East Coast Discovery Channel feed runs it then too… ---
**Author:** ![percypercy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@percypercy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/percypercy)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-scheduled-8-00-9-01-to-screw-the-tivoers/271767/11 "2004-10-29T06:24:27Z")
When NBC started doing this with ER, I scheduled my mom’s Tivo manually. So from 9-10 every thursday, the tivo records whatever’s on NBC, whether it’s ER or not. But that way she could get both ER and CSI(which is on from 8-9). -Lil ---
**Author:** ![Lips\_Obsession](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bbce88/32.png) [@Lips\_Obsession](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lips_Obsession)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-scheduled-8-00-9-01-to-screw-the-tivoers/271767/12 "2004-10-29T13:34:39Z")
ABC is doing this with several shows. One of the other ones being affected is “Desperate Housewives” on sunday nite. I got a MSG from TiVo the other day alerting me to ABC’s trickyness. Thankfully, I don’t have anything on my schedule for after Desperate Housewives so it won’t affect me…but as the others have pointed out, you’d have to do a manual recording to get around it… ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-scheduled-8-00-9-01-to-screw-the-tivoers/271767/13 "2004-10-29T13:39:25Z")
I just want to say that my Dish Network DVR would have no trouble recording both Lost and West Wing. In fact I have recorded two seperate shows at the same time. The DVR allows recording through the main input and through the PIP input as well. ---
**Author:** ![cantara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6f9a4e/32.png) [@cantara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cantara)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-scheduled-8-00-9-01-to-screw-the-tivoers/271767/14 "2004-10-29T13:48:26Z")
'Course, they’re screwing Canada too. CRTC regulations (FCC equivalent) allow Canadian broadcasters to pre-empt an American station signal with their own if they are broadcasting the same show. This has something to do with showing Canadian commercials during the show being broadcast. There’s probably a few threads about the Superbowl pre-emptions. Around here, Lost is on the originating ABC affiliate, but at 9PM when ABC is scheduled to start ‘The Practice’, the local station broadcasting ‘The Practice’ overrides the signal and starts showing ‘The Practice’ despite the fact that Lost is still on. There is nowhere for me to find the final minute of Lost since there was no Canadian station showing it and I’ve now ‘lost’ ABC. ---
**Author:** ![Jurph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/50afbb/32.png) [@Jurph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jurph)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-scheduled-8-00-9-01-to-screw-the-tivoers/271767/15 "2004-10-29T13:49:15Z")
For those of us who watch both _Lost_ and _Smallville_, the plethora of ways to time-shift TV has been a huge boon. Personally, I watch one episode live and get a digital copy of the other a few hours later, courtesy of a crafty pal with a PVR. I would bet that ABC is extending _Lost_ because the producer (David Fury) is begging for 42 minutes of screen time, and the sales department – sensing a hit – needs to squeeze in 19 minutes of commercials. For those of you who see commercials during _Lost_, how many of them are for other ABC shows, and how many are paid slots? ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-scheduled-8-00-9-01-to-screw-the-tivoers/271767/16 "2004-10-29T13:51:01Z")
I don’t tivo lost anyway—we get ABC’s HD feed via Bright House Cable and since I don’t have a HD DVR, I just watch it in HD instead—but in situations such as this, I am grateful that my Bright House DVR box has double receivers. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![jacquilynne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/67e7ee/32.png) [@jacquilynne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jacquilynne)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-scheduled-8-00-9-01-to-screw-the-tivoers/271767/17 "2004-10-29T14:27:14Z")
Are you sure they’re actually doing this to fubar digital recorders? NBC used to pull this crap all the time - extending ER and Friends and other really popular shows an extra minute or two so that the on the hour commercial break would become part of a more popular show’s block of time, and thus be something they could charge vastly more money for. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-scheduled-8-00-9-01-to-screw-the-tivoers/271767/18 "2004-10-29T15:15:38Z")
Unlike the 40-minute Friends, which actually contained 40 minutes of programming, Wednesday night’s **Lost** was scheduled to end at 9:03, but actually ended right on time at 9:00. So yeah, it was an evil plot. ---
**Author:** ![Jurph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/50afbb/32.png) [@Jurph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jurph)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-scheduled-8-00-9-01-to-screw-the-tivoers/271767/19 "2004-10-29T18:21:40Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Unlike the 40-minute Friends, which actually contained 40 minutes of programming, Wednesday night’s **Lost** was scheduled to end at 9:03, but actually ended right on time at 9:00. So yeah, it was an evil plot. That’s interesting, because the version I have (a TiVo’ed copy burned to VCD with the ads edited out) was 42 minutes long, without the “next week on LOST” segment. Most previous episodes have been 40 or 41 minutes, including the preview segment. ---
**Author:** ![Podkayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Podkayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Podkayne)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-scheduled-8-00-9-01-to-screw-the-tivoers/271767/20 "2004-10-29T18:55:09Z")
> [@jacquilynne](#): > > Are you sure they’re actually doing this to fubar digital recorders? NBC used to pull this crap all the time - extending ER and Friends and other really popular shows an extra minute or two so that the on the hour commercial break would become part of a more popular show’s block of time, and thus be something they could charge vastly more money for. Pffft. Of course not. Dont’ you see, it’s all about _me_. They are out to get _me_. 😉 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-scheduled-8-00-9-01-to-screw-the-tivoers/271767.md?page=2)