# Lost: The Journey. What is NOT important? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 28, 2005, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-the-journey-what-is-not-important/301501 "2005-04-28T05:06:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-the-journey-what-is-not-important/301501/21 "2005-04-28T18:52:16Z")
Well, I liked it for what it was. Unnecessary for me but well done. And I liked the narrator. Not as good as a new episode to be sure, but we’re already getting more than the usual number of those. Anyhow, time for the big run up to the season finale. Woo-Hoo! ---
**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-the-journey-what-is-not-important/301501/22 "2005-04-28T19:12:40Z")
> [@BrianJ4](#): > > Also left out: Locke told the crowd there are others on the island, but in the actual show he revealed that the boy burned the raft… No he didn’t. Locke told Walt himself that he knew Walt had burned the raft, but he promised he wouldn’t tell anyone else. To the Oceanic 815 survivors, he implied that he believed “the others” burned it. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-the-journey-what-is-not-important/301501/23 "2005-04-28T19:32:59Z")
> [@BrianJ4](#): > > I thought it said > > “There were no survivors of flight 815” > > Boone said he was a survivor, the other end said there were no survivors Oh come on- someone must have had on Closed Captioning! ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-the-journey-what-is-not-important/301501/24 "2005-04-28T19:42:00Z")
CC said “We’re the survivors…” ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-the-journey-what-is-not-important/301501/25 "2005-04-28T19:47:11Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Oh come on- someone must have had on Closed Captioning! Apparently, peoples’ CC have been reporting different things to different people. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-the-journey-what-is-not-important/301501/26 "2005-04-28T19:56:59Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > Apparently, peoples’ CC have been reporting different things to different people. WTF?!? 😕 :eek: ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-the-journey-what-is-not-important/301501/27 "2005-04-28T20:11:19Z")
First time, in the original episode, it was extremely hard to make out. Closed captioning read “There were no survivors of flight 815” Review episode, they redid the audio. I don’t know if they re-recorded it, or just played with the volumes, but it was a lot more clear. It was not totally clear, but I would venture that it almost certainly was “We’re the survivors of flight 815”. For what it’s worth, there was no closed caption on my TV for it. The line was just skipped. The preceeding and following lines show up on closed captioning, though. ---
**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-the-journey-what-is-not-important/301501/28 "2005-04-28T20:31:39Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Review episode, they redid the audio. I don’t know if they re-recorded it, or just played with the volumes, but it was a lot more clear. It was not totally clear, but I would venture that it almost certainly was “We’re the survivors of flight 815”. In for a penny, in for a pound … And, the voice sounded just like Boone’s. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-the-journey-what-is-not-important/301501/29 "2005-04-28T23:32:57Z")
A recap show? Huh. I missed it, unfortunately. Who did the narration? A regular or someone unrecognised? ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-the-journey-what-is-not-important/301501/30 "2005-04-29T00:18:40Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > The questions were for the most part dumb and cliche and unnecessary. The tone and voice were condescending. It was just completely stupid. Consider the Average Viewer, young padawan. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-the-journey-what-is-not-important/301501/31 "2005-04-29T00:47:06Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Consider the Average Viewer, young padawan. Well… No. I refuse. 😛 (Also, I think the “Average Viewer,” whatever we may think of her mental faculties (and I think we should think more of them), is not someone we should _condescend_ to. If a show is good without “pandering,” then it is not made any better or any more appealing to anyone at all by adding a “pandering” element. Well, anyway, can you think of a show or anything like that which started out smart, then got dumb, and got _more_ popular as a result of its dumbing-down?) -FrL- ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-the-journey-what-is-not-important/301501/32 "2005-04-29T00:51:33Z")
Star Wars? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Flutterby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Flutterby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flutterby)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-the-journey-what-is-not-important/301501/33 "2005-04-29T01:58:27Z")
Well I liked the show because I keep getting distracted and have yet to catch up, so now I have an overview of things (I’m still catching up though, hopefully I’ll be finished by the 4th). I do have a question, since I haven’t gotten there yet… what happened with Shannon’s medicine? Did they find who had it? If so, who and why didn’t they bring it out when she had that attack? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-the-journey-what-is-not-important/301501/34 "2005-04-29T04:11:42Z")
One of the reasons why the numbers weren’t mentioned is because all the information about the numbers, except for that final shot of the hatch, took place completely in backstory. My wife and I are “discussing” the plane transmission… I’m in the “No! We’re the…” camp, she’s in the “There are no…” camp. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-the-journey-what-is-not-important/301501/35 "2005-04-29T04:13:43Z")
By the way, did anybody have the narration drop off for about half the episode? We kept seeing it in the caption, but no voice. Pretty sweet, if you ask me. My wife asked if they used some sort of cliche-generator to generate the narration… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-the-journey-what-is-not-important/301501/36 "2005-04-29T04:59:47Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > Who did the narration? A regular or someone unrecognised? Oceanic 815, please respond. ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-the-journey-what-is-not-important/301501/37 "2005-04-29T05:17:35Z")
The narrator sounded like Brian Cox to me. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-the-journey-what-is-not-important/301501/38 "2005-04-29T06:15:51Z")
No one had the medicine, it was presumed lost at sea. Sun made an herbal remedy to asthma from Eucalyptus leaves. And I’m almost certain they cleaned up, or increased the volume, of the audio of the radio transmission. I have a nearly… phonographic? memory. Can anyone confirm? In any case, last time I was in the camp of “There were no…” but this time it certainly sounds more like “We’re the…” ---
**Author:** ![Grim\_Jaa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@Grim\_Jaa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grim_Jaa)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-the-journey-what-is-not-important/301501/39 "2005-04-29T07:39:11Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > Can’t remember whether or not I noticed the first time around, but CFL sounded distinctly French-Canadian to me when she was speaking English. Also, in her radio message, is she really saying “It killed them all”, as translated by Shannon, or is she saying something like “It took them all”? My French isn’t very good, and the sound isn’t particularly clear, but it doesn’t sound like 'It killed them all" to me. Crazy French Lady is played by Mira Furlan, who is Croatian. That’s her regular speaking voice when she speaks english. She played the Minbari Ambassador, ‘Delenn’ in the Babylon 5 series as well. ---
**Author:** ![Antonius\_Block](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/51bf81/32.png) [@Antonius\_Block](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antonius_Block)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-the-journey-what-is-not-important/301501/40 "2005-04-29T08:27:13Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > Also, in her radio message, is she really saying “It killed them all”, as translated by Shannon, or is she saying something like “It took them all”? My French isn’t very good, and the sound isn’t particularly clear, but it doesn’t sound like 'It killed them all" to me. She says (quite clearly to my ears) **“Il les a tués. Il les a tous tués.”** Shannon translates this as **“It killed them. It killed them all”** , which is only one of two possible translations. It could also have meant **“He killed them. He killed them all”** : the part of the message that _we_ hear is insufficient to distinguish between “it killed” and “he killed”, although of course Shannon may have heard more of the message than we (the audience) did and derived the context from it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-the-journey-what-is-not-important/301501.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-the-journey-what-is-not-important/301501.md?page=3)