# Lost

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost/265500>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 22, 2004, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost/265500 "2004-09-22T15:33:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 5

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**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2004, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost/265500/81 "2004-09-23T20:55:47Z")

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> [@duality72](#):
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> I also enjoyed this episode and think/hope good things can come of it, but I’ll be severely disappointed if some supernatural/outlandish sci-fi crap is thrown in to explain the Stobor (my pet name for the unseen creature(s) so far).

Woot, you get bonus points for working in a Heinlein reference!

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**Author:** ![kka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/54ee81/32.png) [@kka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kka)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2004, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost/265500/82 "2004-09-23T21:07:03Z")

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Does anyone know if they are going to rerun the episode sometime this week?

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2004, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost/265500/83 "2004-09-23T21:10:55Z")

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> [@PunditLisa](#):
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> All in all, I was intrigued but thought it should have been re-worked and tightened up. It doesn’t need to be hokey to work. I also think 48 is an awfully big cast and hope that at least 30 of them died in the crash.

That 48 is post-crash. Buck up; if the show runs 100 episodes, if somebody dies everybody other episode, then there’ll be nothing but a peaceful, deserted island for the last four epidodes.

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2004, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost/265500/84 "2004-09-23T21:23:40Z")

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My DVR didn’t pick up any other airings of “Lost.” Rats!

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2004, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost/265500/85 "2004-09-23T22:17:09Z")

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> [@](#):
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> The characters, I think, have not yet been fully revealed.

I hope not. I hate to think that ten or twenty episodes down the road we’ll still be referring to them as the pregnant lady, the fat guy, the guy with the kid, the middle eastern guy, the Japanese couple, the old black woman, the lifeguard dude, the girl in denial, and the weird bald guy. Let’s just say that at this point there’s ample room for growth in character development.

My guess is that the thing in the jungle is some kind of mechanical vehicle. I’m wildly speculating here, but I’m guessing there’s a secret base on the island for some illegal organization that the crash survivors will have to confront.

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> What idjit, in his right mind, would stick half his body outside of the window when he knew something extremely large and menacing was stalking him? I knew that they’d have to get rid of the pilot for dramatic reasons, but come on, folks.

He had finished his exposition and realized he had nothing to live for.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Rieux](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Dr.Rieux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Rieux)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2004, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost/265500/86 "2004-09-23T23:22:05Z")

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> [@Dewey Finn](#):
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> And the evil genius masterminding everything deliberately brought the plane down.

Aha! It must be Dr. Zin–and he’s got the Invisible Monster working with him!

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2004, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost/265500/87 "2004-09-23T23:35:41Z")

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Boring. Stupid. I’ll watch it. Guy needs stitches. Girl stitches. Falls hopelessly in love. Invisible dinosaurs.

Ok, my roommate said “it’s not invisible dinosaurs!”

I said, “anything else would just be stupider.”

But I’ll watch it. Damit.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2004, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost/265500/88 "2004-09-24T00:33:59Z")

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> [@Little Nemo](#):
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> He had finished his exposition and realized he had nothing to live for.

😃 😃 😃

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**Author:** ![beckwall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b487fb/32.png) [@beckwall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beckwall)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2004, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost/265500/89 "2004-09-24T01:56:23Z")

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We were hoping that the thing in the bushes turns out to be the rabbit from **Donnie Darko**. He’s evil, but in a goofy fun sort of way. Could be a hit…

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**Author:** ![Antigen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/848f3c/32.png) [@Antigen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antigen)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2004, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost/265500/90 "2004-09-24T02:24:13Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Is that _you_, Richard Parker?

My first thought too! 😃

Or maybe it’s a physical manifestation of the passengers’ fear, and the more scared they get, the worse it gets, till they all die of fright. (Wasn’t that an X-files episode?)

I’m not condemning it yet, although I have to say I’m not very impressed. I’m going to give it another couple of weeks to convince me it’s worth watching.

> [@Trunk](#):
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> I’d heard good things and so I tuned in and enjoyed it. How many network shows do you get to see so much blood

Did you _see_ the season premiere of Third Watch? :eek:

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**Author:** ![Darwins\_Finch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darwins_finch/32/20304_2.png) [@Darwins\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darwins_Finch)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2004, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost/265500/91 "2004-09-24T03:17:29Z")

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I have a bad feeling that the “thing in the woods” is going to turn out to be mechanical, kind of like how the big, bad growling beasty at the beginning of _Jurassic Park_ turned out to be a forklift. Didn’t the black lady say she thought it sounded familiar, and that she grew up in Brooklyn?

I thought it was interesting enough to watch for the next few weeks, to see if anything good pans out. Personally, I would be _least_ interested in just a bunch of people surviving a plane crash. Human drama does little for me, as I’ve experienced quite enough in real life. I prefer the far out, supernatural-type stories, so I’m hoping this doesn’t turn out to be something mundane.

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**Author:** ![Pigs\_in\_Space](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9d8465/32.png) [@Pigs\_in\_Space](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pigs_in_Space)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2004, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost/265500/92 "2004-09-24T04:34:01Z")

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About the dog, there was some between the father and son that made me think the dog was theirs. I didn’t Tivo it so I can’t go back and check, but is was something like this.

(scary noises)  
Kid: Maybe that’s \<name, possibly Victor\>  
Dad: I don’t think it’s \<name\>

Also, I think he had a collar, which would imply he came with the plane.

My Tivo lists a showing of the first 2 episodes on 10/2 at 8. You may want to check your listings, though.

This is a show you have to watch for the silliness, like Alias or Xena. Plus, I like shows where you can go that’s the guy from Party of Five/Alias/Angel/LOTR/Alias.

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**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2004, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost/265500/93 "2004-09-24T11:40:02Z")

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> [@Pigs in Space](#):
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> About the dog, there was some between the father and son that made me think the dog was theirs. I didn’t Tivo it so I can’t go back and check, but is was something like this.
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> (scary noises)  
> Kid: Maybe that’s \<name, possibly Victor\>  
> Dad: I don’t think it’s \<name\>

Yes, I was also under the impression the dog belonged to the little kid.

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**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2004, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost/265500/94 "2004-09-24T11:41:35Z")

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> [@PunditLisa](#):
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> You can never trust those wily Hobbits.

We hatessss the fat one.

–  
I agree with **Cervaise** (good post). There’s a lot to be worked out of people being stranded on a deserted island with no boats, no lights, no motor cars, nary a luxury.

I only hope the creators realized this, and decided that a big scary thing in the woods would IMPROVE upon the natural drama that would come from humans being human.

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**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2004, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost/265500/95 "2004-09-24T12:53:36Z")

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> [@Pigs in Space](#):
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> Also, I think he had a collar, which would imply he came with the plane.

No it wouldn’t. The use of collars is common, even among dog owners who don’t fly on planes.

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2004, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost/265500/96 "2004-09-24T13:05:44Z")

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> [@](#):
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> No it wouldn’t. The use of collars is common, even among dog owners who don’t fly on planes.

If you lived on a tiny island, why would you collar your dog?

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2004, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost/265500/97 "2004-09-24T13:27:35Z")

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> [@Pigs in Space](#):
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> About the dog, there was some between the father and son that made me think the dog was theirs. I didn’t Tivo it so I can’t go back and check, but is was something like this.
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> (scary noises)  
> Kid: Maybe that’s \<name, possibly Victor\>  
> Dad: I don’t think it’s \<name\>
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> Also, I think he had a collar, which would imply he came with the plane.

I missed what the kid and his father were saying but I remember wondering if the dog was their’s. If he was on the plane he sure got lucky escaping without a mark or even a limp. Then again those air kennels may provide some protection.

As for the people saying that if he were a dog used to people and had been on the plane he would run to the first people he saw. _BZZZT!_ Wrong! A dog, even a friendly dog, isn’t necessarily going to run to perfect strangers. Add in to the fact that he went through a major trauma and he may even be reluctant to approach his owners. I’ve heard of enough instances where a dog was hit by a car and still ambulatory and ran off, even running away from it’s owners. I have also tried to coax a seemingly friendly dog out of a busy street so it won’t get hit by cars, only to have it prefer to take it’s chances with the scary cars other than go to a stranger.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2004, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost/265500/98 "2004-09-24T13:42:12Z")

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> [@Little Nemo](#):
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> I hope not. I hate to think that ten or twenty episodes down the road we’ll still be referring to them as the pregnant lady, the fat guy, the guy with the kid, the middle eastern guy, the Japanese couple, the old black woman, the lifeguard dude, the girl in denial, and the **weird bald guy**.

Bolding Mine. Weird Bald Guy gets my vote for “guy who wasn’t on the plane” if that is a plot possibility.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2004, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost/265500/99 "2004-09-24T13:47:09Z")

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> [@Little Nemo](#):
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> He had finished his exposition and realized he had nothing to live for.

Yep. I watched him start to climb out, then stop to put down the transceiver, and I thought “Dude, you are _so_ dying in the next few seconds…”

I think the thing in the forest is a giant robotic monkey.

They better start scavenging clothes and stuff from the bodies and the wreckage or they’re going to be really screwed. If they wait for more than a day or two, then, several episodes later, everybody has several changes of clothing they took off of bodies that had been sitting in the sun for three days, I’m calling foul.

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**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2004, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost/265500/100 "2004-09-24T13:55:23Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> Yep. I watched him start to climb out, then stop to put down the transceiver, and I thought “Dude, you are _so_ dying in the next few seconds…”
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> I think the thing in the forest is a giant robotic monkey.
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> They better start scavenging clothes and stuff from the bodies and the wreckage or they’re going to be really screwed. If they wait for more than a day or two, then, several episodes later, everybody has several changes of clothing they took off of bodies that had been sitting in the sun for three days, I’m calling foul.

I was thinking the same thing. They do seem to have an eye for detail though. For instance, sterilizing the woman’s hands and the wound before the sewup job. Then, in a flashback, they showed us why he had the extra bottle.

But, someone has to realize, “we might be here for a while. Let’s get these clothes, and let’s bury some bodies.” I expect mass burial next week.

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