# LOTR (film): how did Gandalf know Frodo would be OK with the ring? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 28, 2018, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lotr-film-how-did-gandalf-know-frodo-would-be-ok-with-the-ring/820405 "2018-08-28T13:12:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Capn\_Carl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Capn\_Carl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capn_Carl)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lotr-film-how-did-gandalf-know-frodo-would-be-ok-with-the-ring/820405/41 "2019-01-31T21:29:40Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > There are ten separate occasions where people in the bible were brought back to life (Lazarus for instance) so being resurrected is not unique to Jesus. > > Jesus was the son of god/is god (trinty thing). Gandalf is one of many Maiar (basically like low level angels) created by Iluvatar (god). Remember things like the Balrog are also Maiar. So not like Jesus at all. Angels in the bible are not like Jesus. Angels in Middle Earth are not like Jesus either. > > The Istari, of which Gandalf was one of five, worked for the Valar (Gandalf worked for Manwe/Varda). Indeed they were sent by the Valar and not Iluvatar. Jesus was sent by god so not the same. > > Jesus died for our sins. Gandalf died fighting a Balrog. So not the same. > > There is really very little to parallel between Jesus and Gandalf. My guess for the Jesus figure in Middle Earth might have been Tom Bombadil but IIRC Tolkein explicity rejected the notion that Bombadil was Iluvatar manifest in Middle Earth so he is an enigma. Gandalf the Grey and the other 4 were sent by the Valar. Gandalf the White was sent back by Iluvatar. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lotr-film-how-did-gandalf-know-frodo-would-be-ok-with-the-ring/820405.md?page=2)