LOTR Mythology Tutorial

In the Quenya, Lantë = downfall. Atan = Men of the West, or of the three houses of the Edain, who made up the population of Numenor. Hence Atalantë, downfall of the men of the west, aka the fall of Numenor. Similar is the Noldolantë, downfall of the Noldor, by Maglor.

And emarkp, you must have missed peg’s post listing the Encyclopedia of Arda.

And you, Fenris, better smile when you say that, pardner! :smiley:

another note on Atalantë. Some writings by JRRT define it as meaning The Downfallen in and of itself, without reference to the Atani, the second-born of Iluvatar. I"m not sure which is true. I’m more of a parrot than a linguist. A norwegian blue, actually.

theres a series of books out called The Histories of Middle Earth, theyre are 12 parts, and youll probably find the answers to most your questions in there, About Sil… anyone who has read it congrats, if I’v started it once ive started it 50 times :rolleyes:

I’ve read HOMES (History of Middle Earth Series), Delly. Twice. It’s very informative, and fascinating to us true students of JRRT, but it can be tough going. If one gets bogged down in The Silmarillion, one shouldn’t pick up HOMES.

I’ve said it in other threads and I’ll say it again: IMHO for the best experience with The Silmarillion, pick up Karen Fonstad’s Atlas of Middle Earth, and keep it on hand as you read The Silmarillion. Either that or get the CD (all 12 volumes) of Sil and just listen.

You can send your copy to me, if you want. I bought it for my younger brother for Christmas the year it was first published. I got to read it one time, then the little bastard went and joined the Army and took it with him.

Remarkable bird, the Qadgop the Mercotan, idn’t it? Beautiful plumage.

Anything for another plug for the CoE… The Modern Silmarillion, AKA “The Sil for Dummies”.

And any similarity of Atalante to Atlantis is pure coincidence. :wink:

But now I’m tired and shagged out after a long squawk.

Atlantis? Do you mean Atlanta? I am not familiar with “Atlantis”. I know there is a Lantus insulin brand. I had an aunt lana once. Norman, co-ordinate.

Of course. It’s well-known that Tolkien drew parallels between his mythos and that of Margaret Mitchell. I believe they had a long and fruitful correspondence in the 30’s.

(we need a tongue in cheek smiley)

Reminds me of a Futurama episode, where the citizens of the drowned city of Atlanta sing the Donovan song of the same name.

Oh Lord, I must see that one!

which reminds me of my favorite review of a Tolkien book: “like the phone book in Elvish.”

:stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue:

Which also means that Aragorn and Conan are of the same lineage. Which is also cool.

And Dex, it’s true that anything written by humans about a time that far in the past would be mythology rather than history. But this is elves we’re talking about here. Heck, they were there. For comparison: When my mom tells me about the Kennedy assassination, is she telling me mythology, or history? Because that’s about the equivalent of Galadriel, say, or Cirdan telling of the War of Wrath.