# LotR:RotK:EE:Documentaries. The Mind Boggles. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 21, 2004, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lotr-rotk-ee-documentaries-the-mind-boggles/280892 "2004-12-21T01:24:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2004, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lotr-rotk-ee-documentaries-the-mind-boggles/280892/61 "2004-12-31T20:51:10Z")
Thanks for explaining Arwen’s different look. I couldn’t believe it was a continuity error, and I didn’t remember that about the elves when I read the books. I need to read them again. Once is obviously not enough. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2004, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lotr-rotk-ee-documentaries-the-mind-boggles/280892/62 "2004-12-31T21:42:39Z")
To me, to just see the theatrical version jips the viewer. The EE’s have so much more, and they add so much cohesion to the story. I ahve watched the actor’s comentary and tonoc will watch the director’s. I do wish PJ had done the Hobbit. Oh, well. ---
**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2005, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lotr-rotk-ee-documentaries-the-mind-boggles/280892/63 "2005-01-01T01:22:31Z")
> [@Waenara](#): > > He was the captain of the corsair ship. If you’re watching the EE, look for when Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli first see the Corsair ships and challenge them. Legolas fires a “warning shot”, but Gimli jogs his elbow, so his arrow hits the corsair played by PJ. Not only that, but if you watch the documentaries, you’ll see that he actually had a _second_ cameo! ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2005, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lotr-rotk-ee-documentaries-the-mind-boggles/280892/64 "2005-01-01T02:24:36Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Yep. That’s one of the things that differentiates the Elves from the mortals. They exist in both realms at the same time. Well, not exactly. Those who once dwelt in the Blessed Realm (like Glorfindel and Galadriel) are explicitly stated to dwell in both realms at once. Implicitly one could argue that some of the Moriquendi ( the elves who never saw the light of the Two Trees) also gained this ability. And perhaps Arwen would qualify, being descended from Calaquendi (elves of the light) and Melian the Maia herself, along with her Mortal and Moriquendi ancestry. But I don’t recall such a thing being stated explicitly about all elves. ---
**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2005, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lotr-rotk-ee-documentaries-the-mind-boggles/280892/65 "2005-01-01T15:59:16Z")
Replying to the discussion of Frodo leaving: This was such a meaningful point in the book for me (that Frodo lost everything he tried to save; that he was too traumatized, hurt, addicted, guilty, etc. to stay in Middle Earth). But non-book readers just don’t get it from the movie. PJ & the other 2 writers address this on their voice-over commentary. They say something to the effect that they wish they had set up his leaving bettter, but it was one of the things that didn’t get tweaked in the rush at the end. And boy did they seem rushed at the end. Amazing the film comes off as well as it does. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lotr-rotk-ee-documentaries-the-mind-boggles/280892.md?page=3)