# LOTR: Witch King vs. Gandalf, the death match

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**Created:** [March 26, 2014, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lotr-witch-king-vs-gandalf-the-death-match/684631 "2014-03-26T20:31:57Z")\
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**Post date:** [March 27, 2014, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lotr-witch-king-vs-gandalf-the-death-match/684631/13 "2014-03-27T00:39:05Z")

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Gandalf the White was too powerful for the Witch King. Jackson really screwed up on that scene. The Witch King may have believed he could defeat Gandalf, but he was wrong and knew not who and what he faced. Gandalf could not destroy the Witch King but he would have at least chased him off if not destroyed his current form. Gandalf had already ridden out against many Ring Wraith and rescued Faramir from them.

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> But now the dark swooping shadows were aware of the newcomer. One wheeled towards him; but it seemed to Pippin that he raised his hand, and from it a shaft of white light stabbed upwards. The Nazgûl gave a long wailing cry and swerved away; and with that the four others wavered, and then rising in swift spirals they passed away eastward vanishing into the lowering cloud above; and down on the Pelennor it seemed for a while less dark.

Gandalf the White was a greater being by far, when Eru sent him back he was no longer required to hide his true self as Gandalf the Grey. Gandalf the White was much closer to Olórin as he was in Valinor. Against he no phantom of the enemy could stand for long.

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