# Lots of tots rot!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 4, 2014, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053 "2014-06-04T19:38:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/21 "2014-06-05T06:43:24Z")

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This story is a good example of why we need to be more environmentally conscientious. Dead baby corpses should be accumulated over time and then burned in the incinerator by the hundreds during winter. That way you keep the place warm with minimal expense, and you don’t have to waste energy digging a big hole in the back yard, to boot.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/22 "2014-06-05T06:55:59Z")

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I guess the outrage here is supposed to be about children of unwed mothers not being allowed to be baptised; hence, not allowed a burial in “consecrated ground” (i.e., a church cemetery).

All well in accord with Catholic (or maybe specifically Irish Catholic?) sensibilities of the time, but oh, so incorrect by today’s sensibilities. In those days, I guess those poor innocent children were doomed to spend eternity in Limbo. But now that there’s no more Limbo, where do they go?

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/23 "2014-06-05T07:54:00Z")

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The dead fetuses and infants floating around in heaven really are a bit of a nuisance, but, that’s the price you pay for everlasting servitude to God.

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**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/24 "2014-06-05T08:11:50Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> The article isn’t very informative. Despite what the OP says, there doesn’t seem to be much evidence that the Sisters were hiding the deaths of the children, since their deaths and the causes were recorded. The gravesite seems to basically be a paupers grave for kids that died at the orphanage, which is super-depressing, but I don’t think particularly scandalous.

There are a couple things here. First, the death rate of these children was high even by the standards of the time, which certainly suggests the deaths could have been avoided with better care. The general belief (although I don’t know how well established this is) is that these were the children who the nuns were unable to sell to rich Americans because they were sick or disabled - and thus having no value to the nuns who ran the home, they were basically left to die of malnutrition and disease. There is a significant amount of anecdotal evidence from people who grew up in the vicinity of the home that these children were noticeably ill-fed and otherwise neglected.

The other thing is that having died, their bodies were unceremoniously dumped into a septic tank. I think most people would agree that is pretty scandalous, especially given the religious nature of the home.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/25 "2014-06-05T08:36:28Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> But where do you stand on dead babies?

Preferably on the skulls. Bit sturdier than the rest, you see.

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**Author:** ![Kiber](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kiber/32/317_2.png) [@Kiber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiber)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/26 "2014-06-05T11:36:39Z")

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The method of disposal is disgusting - but the rate is what gets me. Roughly 800 over 35 years comes out to about 1 death every 16 days. At the very best that speaks to an appallingly low level of care.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/27 "2014-06-05T12:15:39Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> He is, admittedly, nowhere near as bad as the Straight Dope Stupid Thread co-champions, **ralph124c** and **Jinx** , but that’s not a pair that anyone should aim to be grouped with in any conversation.

My sister thinks they should be segregated to the side of the regular classroom.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/28 "2014-06-05T12:58:49Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Hi!
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> I get my jollies from attempting to embarrass people by dredging up irrelevant bits of the board’s past.
> 
> Why not just cut and paste the above? It’s more meaningful and succinct that most of your posts.

That’s so cute. You’ve picked up on someone else’s attempt to start a meme…and…you’re the guy who tried to scam the SDMB to pay for air-conditioning for your bunny-rabbits rather than dipping into your savings or trust funds or retirement counts or whatever, right?

[Why yes!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=651896)[Yes you are.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=651754). And you’ve changed your name to…what? Hide that fact?

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/29 "2014-06-05T14:29:46Z")

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I can’t decide if this thread is going to take this horrible discovery seriously or just degenerate into dead baby jokes. So, out of a sense of courtesy and thoughtfulness, I’ll spoiler my dead baby joke:

[spoiler]What’s the difference between a Lamborghini and a septic tank full of dead babies?

I don’t have a Lamborghini in my yard.[/spoiler]

I am a model of sensitivity.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/30 "2014-06-05T15:15:28Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> That’s so cute. You’ve picked up on someone else’s attempt to start a meme…and…you’re the guy who tried to scam the SDMB to pay for air-conditioning for your bunny-rabbits rather than dipping into your savings or trust funds or retirement counts or whatever, right?
> 
> [Why yes!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=651896)[Yes you are.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=651754). And you’ve changed your name to…what? Hide that fact?

[What scam?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16629812&postcount=44).

You’ve just been reported for trolling, BTW.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/31 "2014-06-05T15:55:22Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> I guess the outrage here is supposed to be about children of unwed mothers not being allowed to be baptised; hence, not allowed a burial in “consecrated ground” (i.e., a church cemetery).

What the hell is a “church cemetery”? Churches do not have cemeteries, they have _graveyards_.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/32 "2014-06-05T16:08:32Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> [What scam?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16629812&postcount=44).
> 
> You’ve just been reported for trolling, BTW.

Pointing out that you hit up the board for air coditioning money might not have been all that charitable on Fenris’s part, but how is it trolling?

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/33 "2014-06-05T16:19:37Z")

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> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> Pointing out that you hit up the board for air coditioning money might not have been all that charitable on Fenris’s part, but how is it trolling?

You’ve just been reported for, uh, threatening to kill Hitler.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/34 "2014-06-05T16:26:24Z")

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> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> Pointing out that you hit up the board for air coditioning money might not have been all that charitable on Fenris’s part, but how is it trolling?

[Here.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=16629866#post16629866)

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/35 "2014-06-05T16:47:03Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> [What scam?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16629812&postcount=44).
> 
> You’ve just been reported for trolling, BTW.

And you’ve just been humiliated in front of the SDMB for trying to scam the board to pay for your bunny’s air conditioning. Your link doesn’t show a lack of scamming, it shows a lack of _successful_ scamming. You still lied about your situation in multiple ways to con money out of people.  
BTW-it’s perfectly fine, from my understanding of the rules, to bring up past discretions (especially since you decided to mention that I allegedly do that before I ever addressed you) in the Pit. The mod note in the thread you linked to (not the post, the thread) was in MPSIMS where it clearly is wrong and Twix was correct to remind me of that. So I accept your trolling report and eagerly look forward to the mods smacking you down for falsely reporting trolling and for starting a fight without the balls to finish it, you bunny-murderer.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/36 "2014-06-05T17:11:46Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> But now that there’s no more Limbo, where do they go?

Jamaica?

> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> [Here.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=16629866#post16629866)

You’ve just been reported for dredging up Fenris’ past of dredging up the past.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/37 "2014-06-05T17:35:05Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> You’ve just been reported for dredging up Fenris’ past of dredging up the past.

I considered, briefly, reporting your reporting of bunnyguy’s dredging of Fenris,but I got confused and gave up on it.

ETA: I _have_, however reported my own post, even if it is vaguely masturbatory to do so.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/38 "2014-06-05T18:21:36Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> And you’ve just been humiliated in front of the SDMB for trying to scam the board to pay for your bunny’s air conditioning. Your link doesn’t show a lack of scamming, it shows a lack of _successful_ scamming. You still lied about your situation in multiple ways to con money out of people.

No money was ever removed from PayPal until being refunded. That’s right, _refunded_, as in _never touched by me or my spouse_ and _returned to the sender as part of the same transaction_. In what universe is that a scam or a con?

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/39 "2014-06-05T18:33:41Z")

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My fault for never saying so in the original thread but the idea was to _borrow_ from Dopers in case other sources, such as [applying for a loan](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16860291&postcount=79), didn’t work out. Any shit made up by assholes like yourself will not change that.

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/40 "2014-06-05T18:35:34Z")

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Oh for cripes sake. In what fucking universe does someone with _multiple retirement accounts_ beg for help from strangers to air condition a bunny? Admit you were completely in the wrong, accept the occasional ribbing and grow up.

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