# Lots of tots rot! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 4, 2014, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053 "2014-06-04T19:38:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/41 "2014-06-05T18:40:45Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > What the hell is a “church cemetery”? Churches do not have cemeteries, they have _graveyards_. What the fuck’s the difference? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/42 "2014-06-05T18:44:06Z")
> [@LavenderBlue](#): > > _multiple retirement accounts_ Ribbing is fine but must you add this crap? It’s _one_ retirement account and the money in there isn’t really mine until I actually retire. > [@LavenderBlue](#): > > grow up. Thus the reason behind the name change. My old one was too silly. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/43 "2014-06-05T18:48:31Z")
_800?_ Those were some horny nuns! ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/44 "2014-06-05T18:49:07Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > My fault for never saying so in the original thread but the idea was to _borrow_ from Dopers in case other sources, such as [applying for a loan](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16860291&postcount=79), didn’t work out. Any shit made up by assholes like yourself will not change that. From the [original thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15067495&postcount=23): > [@](#): > > Anyone wanting to be paid back just need ask but likely will not be possible until at least a month from now. So once it started to go south, you offered to pay back _anyone who wanted it_, meaning you’d be happy to keep the donations of anyone who didn’t. Tough to rewrite history when it’s still available, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/45 "2014-06-05T18:53:04Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > So once it started to go south, you offered to pay back _anyone who wanted it_, meaning you’d be happy to keep the donations of anyone who didn’t. Tough to rewrite history when it’s still available, isn’t it? [Scroll down a bit, dumbass.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15068004&postcount=49) > [@](#): > > Any monies from Dopers that do not get used will be returned. None of it was used. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/46 "2014-06-05T19:06:55Z")
This thread has everything! And now, a sentence I suspect has never before been used in the history of the English language. Ahem: Could we, perhaps, move the rehash of the discussion of the baby bunny air conditioner financial malfeasance into a separate thread, so that we can get back to the subject of making fun of the 800 babies that died in the care of nuns? Now I need to report myself for junior modding. ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/47 "2014-06-05T19:07:02Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Ribbing is fine but must you add this crap? It’s _one_ retirement account and the money in there isn’t really mine until I actually retire.Thus the reason behind the name change. If you only have one retirement account then why did you write: > [@](#): > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15067495#post15067495](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15067495#post15067495) > > A loan out of one of my retirement plans would be the absolute final resort. FYI, we have three retirement accounts. One from husband’s employer. Another from my employer. And a huge general retirement savings fund. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/48 "2014-06-05T19:12:49Z")
> [@LavenderBlue](#): > > If you only have one retirement account then why did you write: > > FYI, we have three retirement accounts. One from husband’s employer. Another from my employer. And a huge general retirement savings fund. Who gives a flying fuck? _Dead babies in a septic tank!_ ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/49 "2014-06-05T19:16:49Z")
> [@LavenderBlue](#): > > If you only have one retirement account then why did you write: That refers to my Thrift Savings Plan, against which I could apply for a loan (which would come due as a balloon payment should I lose my job). The others are a general retirement plan which all federal workers have by default (FERS) and, for sake of completeness, Social Security. Neither of which allows me to access money at all. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/50 "2014-06-05T19:32:11Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > [Scroll down a bit, dumbass.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15068004&postcount=49)None of it was used. Let’s get the timeline straight. I’m not going to bother with links, because Lute’s original con job has been linked to like 400 times so far. I’m just going with post numbers. Post 1 > [@in it's entirety](#): > > $30 from 100 Dopers? > TPTB have granted permission for this thread. > > We are not looking forward to a summer with no AC and the possibility of no heat come winter. One of my brothers had been keeping our 45+ year old furnace going for the past couple of years but apparently something he did back in December royally screwed it up and now nobody knows how to fix it. We were not aware of how bad our HVAC situation is until he stopped by last month, otherwise we’d be in better position to take care of it. I was hoping Bro would step up and at contribute at least something toward replacement but he’s bemoaning the fact how his financial situation is much worse than ours. One of my sisters is willing to contribute but I don’t know how much nor when, summer college tuition for her two boys comes first. > > The goal here is to raise $3000 for parts. We have just enough saved to cover the labor. No mention of bunnies. No mention of loans. No mention of retirement accounts or overtime or any of the other bullshit you’d later spew. A number of Dopers offer money, including one person who certainly was not in a financial position to send you anything–people comment on her generosity and your general scumminess later. Post 10 contains the first hint of info about your bunny needing the AC. You also mention that you could have worked overtime for 3 months prior, but chose not to. And yet you’re in dire straits. Post 11 mentions that you have an “absolute last resort that [you] _really_ prefer not to touch.”. This is after several dopers have posted that they’ll contribute. Suddenly in post 18, it becomes clear that it’s not a life-or-death situation like you’d been implying, no you need the AC because “Along with the two of us are one rabbit, one cat, one hamster, and two birds, for which we’d perfer not finding the heat tolarance, either.”. After all–it might get up to 90[sup]o[/sup] in your house :eek: It wasn’t until post 23, roughly 24 hours after your initial attempt at scamming kind-hearted Dopers that you grudgingly say “Anyone wanting to be paid back just need ask but likely will not be possible until at least a month from now.” So the money wasn’t just in PayPal ready to be transferred back. You are an inept scammer, a con-man and kitty murderer. ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/51 "2014-06-05T19:33:59Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Who gives a flying fuck? > > _Dead babies in a septic tank!_ My husband’s Irish. Am I or am I not allowed to criticize Ireland and Irish Catholicism on the basis of almost twenty years of marriage to him? I have never been sure about that. My husband’s brother does an obnoxious vaguely anti-Semitic accent around me. I’ve threatened matzo ball soup revenge on him multiple times over it. The whole false charity thing is still bugging the hell out of me. I asked an old friend for a donation to a pro-vax charity the other day after we talked about my work on vaccines. She said no and then launched into a spiel about how all charities are nothing more than scams. Sigh. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/52 "2014-06-05T19:39:14Z")
> [@LavenderBlue](#): > > My husband’s Irish. Am I or am I not allowed to criticize Ireland and Irish Catholicism on the basis of almost twenty years of marriage to him? I have never been sure about that. My husband’s brother does an obnoxious vaguely anti-Semitic accent around me. I’ve threatened matzo ball soup revenge on him multiple times over it. > > The whole false charity thing is still bugging the hell out of me. I asked an old friend for a donation to a pro-vax charity the other day after we talked about my work on vaccines. She said no and then launched into a spiel about how all charities are nothing more than scams. > > Sigh. _Looks at thread title_ _looks at post_ _wonders what post has to do with rotting rugrats_ ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/53 "2014-06-05T19:40:25Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > Let’s get the timeline straight. I’m not going to bother with links, because Lute’s original con job has been linked to like 400 times so far. I’m just going with post numbers. As I said last year: > [@I can't pay my rent. I'm doomed.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-pay-my-rent-im-doomed/667777/44): > > I was holding everything in PayPal until needed and, if never needed, returned. Should have stated from the start. If I just wanted the money, I’d have transferred it out of PayPal the first chance I got, right? But that never happened. It all remained in PayPal until refunded. > [@](#): > > So the money wasn’t just in PayPal ready to be transferred back. Wrong! Those who sent money can tell you everything was returned to them via PayPal’s refund process. As in never transferred out of PayPal. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/54 "2014-06-05T19:40:47Z")
800 is a hell of a career total. I wonder if ‘premature births’ is a euphemism for ‘the nuns did abortions and this was the place to go for one in Ireland from the 1920’s through 1961’? Also, nobody has openly acknowledged **Gatopescado** ’s > [@](#): > > 800? > > Those were some horny nuns! so I say, well done, lad! ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/55 "2014-06-05T19:48:42Z")
> [@bup](#): > > 800 is a hell of a career total. I wonder if ‘premature births’ is a euphemism for 'the nuns did abortions From the article: “young children aged between two days and nine years whose grave” To take the side of the pro-lifers: 9 years is a hell of a long time to wait to get an abortion. I for one am against it. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/56 "2014-06-05T19:56:52Z")
Yeah, I was thinking more of the kids that were \*listed \*as being 2 days old, and where cause of death was premature birth. ---
**Author:** ![Zyanthia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Zyanthia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyanthia)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/57 "2014-06-05T20:06:32Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > From the article: > > “young children aged between two days and nine years whose grave” > > To take the side of the pro-lifers: 9 years is a hell of a long time to wait to get an abortion. I for one am against it. I don’t know, some people just need more time. I think I can support abortion up until the 72nd trimester. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/58 "2014-06-05T20:07:13Z")
Let’s not forget it was Lute’s [second Doper cash-grab](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=623646) in service of his pets. He had retirement accounts back then too, but he definitely kept the money that time. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/59 "2014-06-05T20:08:24Z")
From the same Salon article: > [@](#): > > Speaking on RTE last week, secretary of the Tuam archdiocese Father Fintan Monaghan said, “I suppose we can’t really judge the past from our point of view, from our lens. All we can do is mark it appropriately and make sure there is a suitable place here where people can come and remember the babies that died.” > > First of all, oh hell yes we can judge. Judge away, everybody. Scream and yell to the rooftops about this one. This was systematic abuse that went on for 35 years at the hands of a religious order. This was a contempt for the children who lived within the walls of that institution that ran so deep it extended even into the way they were thrown away after they’d died there. You think your friend Jesus wouldn’t judge you on that one, Father Fintan? I think he’d rip you a new one. It’s not a horrendous and sick tragedy perpetrated by his Church-It’s just an historical marker that reads “_Dead Baby Dump_” ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/60 "2014-06-05T20:10:24Z")
There seem to have been a number of reports over the years that the children at this place were extremely malnourished, that except for some that got adopted, they starved to death. And I thought the Church’s history of raping children and (still) protecting those who covered it up was evil. I have hopes for Francis, but he’s got to take stuff like this head on, and acknowledge the extent to which his church has been just plain evil. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053.md?page=4)