# Louie Gohmert is listening to the wrong Q

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 9, 2021, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louie-gohmert-is-listening-to-the-wrong-q/943916 "2021-06-09T18:53:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louie-gohmert-is-listening-to-the-wrong-q/943916/21 "2021-06-09T20:29:39Z")

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Seems like a pretty common Republican strategy. “I’m going to say something incredibly stupid, in a completely serious setting, so then I can say I was just joking later when called out on it.”

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louie-gohmert-is-listening-to-the-wrong-q/943916/22 "2021-06-09T20:31:26Z")

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Guys, you don’t understand how Gohmert’s voter base functions. They are going “hur, hur, ol’ Louie SCHOOLED them greenies, making them admit it’s impossible to change the climate. LOL. MAGA!”

He is not trying to sound good or sensible to US. He is scoring points with his hurhur base he doesn’t give a rat’s ass if he sounds stupid to us.

Which to me is even worse than not knowing science.

@AlsoNamedBort well yes: they are trolling. That’s what they’ve been reduced to.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louie-gohmert-is-listening-to-the-wrong-q/943916/23 "2021-06-09T20:37:45Z")

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Like my mom used to say……”He’s just doing that to get a reaction from you”.

Gohmert was trolling, pure and simple. He is an idiot. He might believe the underlying theory that orbital shifts are responsible for global warming, even though he doesn’t believe in global warming. Now, that’s total cognitive dissonance on the level of “I didn’t do it, and if I did it’s because a Democrat made me do it” but the GQP is really good at that.

But I really don’t believe he thinks that BLM\* has an ability to change the orbit of the moon. I think he just has so much contempt disdain for science in general and climate science in particular that he thinks he’s ridiculing the scientists when he asks that question.

\*BLM, in this context, stands for the Bureau of Land Management, which is the federal agency that manages government owned land holdings, mostly in western states. These holdings are substantial, IIRC over 80% of the land in Nevada is owned by the federal government. They are also the biggest right-wing bogeyman in the West (unlike the other BLM, which is the bogeyman of the South) and a prime target of the Bundy style anti-government groups.

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louie-gohmert-is-listening-to-the-wrong-q/943916/24 "2021-06-09T20:42:35Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> Seems like a pretty common Republican strategy. “I’m going to say something incredibly stupid, in a completely serious setting, so then I can say I was just joking later when called out on it.”

I’ve said this before, except was applied then to racist comments: Schrodinger’s Joke. It’s a joke or not depending on the listeners’ reaction to it when it was uttered.

It looks like “they” are starting to apply the concept to everything they say, not just racist stuff.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louie-gohmert-is-listening-to-the-wrong-q/943916/25 "2021-06-10T02:57:14Z")

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> [@UltraVires](#):
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> He is not seriously suggesting that the Forest Service, or anyone else alter the orbits.

Well, Archimedes said he could do it. Anyone want to argue with that?

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louie-gohmert-is-listening-to-the-wrong-q/943916/26 "2021-06-10T03:28:27Z")

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True. Although Archimedes, clever bastard that he was, put a doozy of an pre-condition on his climate/orbit-altering plan. Gohmert … not so much.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louie-gohmert-is-listening-to-the-wrong-q/943916/27 "2021-06-10T03:30:46Z")

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> [@UltraVires](#):
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> Gohmert’s point, not that I agree with it, is that climate change is not being caused by man, but by the natural change in the orbit of the earth and the moon

Making crazy shit up isn’t a “point.”

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louie-gohmert-is-listening-to-the-wrong-q/943916/28 "2021-06-10T03:44:17Z")

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If that wasn’t a sincere question, he’s a damn good actor. He doesn’t seem to be making much of a show asking such an over-the-top question, as if he thinks it’s a perfectly reasonable tactic to consider.

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louie-gohmert-is-listening-to-the-wrong-q/943916/29 "2021-06-10T04:21:31Z")

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Fair enough. Then someone should start a thread talking about how a denial of human based climate change is “crazy shit” instead of this intellectually dishonest idea that Gohmert believes that the United States Forest Service may be capable of changing both the earth and moon’s orbits.

Like a prior poster, I am amazed that anyone on this board would disagree with me about this.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louie-gohmert-is-listening-to-the-wrong-q/943916/30 "2021-06-10T04:58:35Z")

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> [@UltraVires](#):
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> Like a prior poster, I am amazed that anyone on this board would disagree with me about this.

I do think you are most likely correct. However, it makes perfect sense to me why people would take this comment at face value. If you aren’t familiar with some of the nonsense that the right says about climate change, then this just comes off like a profoundly stupid statement.

And, when we’ve had to deal with a sitting congressperson who genuinely believed in “Jewish space lasers,” and 1/3 of Republicans think Trump will be back in office before Biden’s term is up, it becomes a lot more reasonable to think that he wasn’t joking. I will admit it was only the fuller quote mentioning BLM that clued me in, and I am aware of the nonsense.

What nonsense? The idea that the moon’s orbit has any reasonable affect on climate change. The idea that the earth’s orbit has change. Or that sunspots are a signficant issue. If you didn’t know about these supposed “explanations” for climate change, then the whole thing doesn’t make sense.

His gotcha requires believing some pretty stupid shit for it to make sense as a gotcha. That this was missed by several people does not surprise me.

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louie-gohmert-is-listening-to-the-wrong-q/943916/31 "2021-06-10T13:06:50Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> His gotcha requires believing some pretty stupid shit for it to make sense as a gotcha. That this was missed by several people does not surprise me.

His supporters will eat it up though. They (well some of them) will believe that the Forest Service could fix climate change by modifying the orbits of the moon and earth, but the nasty Dems won’t let them do it because of socialism or something.

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louie-gohmert-is-listening-to-the-wrong-q/943916/32 "2021-06-10T13:13:15Z")

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The truth is, climate change is a very real problem, caused at least partially by man, that needs real, serious solutions, and whether he’s trolling or not with his question, he needs to shut up when the adults are talking.

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louie-gohmert-is-listening-to-the-wrong-q/943916/33 "2021-06-10T13:16:49Z")

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Yup, his only concern is if his stocks will go up or down. HIs grandkids (if he has them), well, fuck em’.

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louie-gohmert-is-listening-to-the-wrong-q/943916/34 "2021-06-10T13:20:54Z")

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> [@Lamoral](#):
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> Gohmert is WAY too much of a dumbass to hang with Q. Q would have transformed him into a block of concrete or something, within an instant of meeting him or possibly millenia before. -

Wouldn’t that make him _smarter_?

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louie-gohmert-is-listening-to-the-wrong-q/943916/35 "2021-06-10T13:42:23Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Wouldn’t that make him _smarter_ ?

I was going to suggest that since he is already the equivalent of a block of concrete Q wouldn’t do anything, but I like yours better.

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louie-gohmert-is-listening-to-the-wrong-q/943916/36 "2021-06-10T13:55:05Z")

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Sure, but the problem is that with Louie Gohmert, that line is very, very fine.

[The 7 Batshit Craziest Statements of Texas Rep. Louie Gohmert | Hornet, the Gay Social Network](https://hornet.com/stories/7-batshit-craziest-statements-texas-rep-louie-gohmert/)

[The Five Most Idiotic Things Louie Gohmert, Who Sees Radical Muslims Anywhere He Looks, Believes | Houston Press](https://www.houstonpress.com/news/the-five-most-idiotic-things-louie-gohmert-who-sees-radical-muslims-anywhere-he-looks-believes-6740337)

[Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day: Louie Gohmert- 2019 Update (dailykos.com)](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/8/26/1881492/-Crazy-Stupid-Republican-of-the-Day-Louie-Gohmert-2019-Update)

[Best of Louie Gohmert: 2019 | Dallas Observer](https://www.dallasobserver.com/news/best-of-louie-gohmert-2019-11821652)

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louie-gohmert-is-listening-to-the-wrong-q/943916/37 "2021-06-10T14:00:47Z")

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> [@UltraVires](#):
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> Gohmert’s point, not that I agree with it, is that climate change is not being caused by man, but by the natural change in the orbit of the earth and the moon and is therefore not something to be dealt with by “green energy.” He is not seriously suggesting that the Forest Service, or anyone else alter the orbits.

If that’s his point then he’s mistaken. The earth is moving away from the sun as are all the planets, due to the sun’s gravity weakening slowly as it loses mass. Moreover, as the earth’s rotation slows due to tidal effects from the moon, it must necessarily move away from the sun to conserve angular momentum.

Gohmert is as dumb as they come. That someone so lacking in intellect is in the US Congress makes us all look dumber.

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> [@UltraVires](#):
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> Gohmert’s point, not that I agree with it, is that climate change is not being caused by man, but by the natural change in the orbit of the earth and the moon

It sounds like he heard that notion at some conservative shindig, didn’t understand it, and let it pinball around in his noggin until it emerged in this form.

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louie-gohmert-is-listening-to-the-wrong-q/943916/39 "2021-06-10T14:58:32Z")

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> [@UltraVires](#):
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> Fair enough. Then someone should start a thread talking about how a denial of human based climate change is “crazy shit” instead of this intellectually dishonest idea that Gohmert believes that the United States Forest Service may be capable of changing both the earth and moon’s orbits.

Whether or not Gohmert believes they can do that - and with Louie Gohmert you should be very careful about assuming he was kidding - the idea that the climate change problem is caused by changes in the orbits of celestial bodies is stupid shit. Whether his question was serious or ironic, it was stupid.

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> [@glowacks](#):
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> If that wasn’t a sincere question, he’s a damn good actor. He doesn’t seem to be making much of a show asking such an over-the-top question, as if he thinks it’s a perfectly reasonable tactic to consider.

Agreed. I watched the video of him asking the question last night, and either:  
a) He has an outstanding poker face as he’s trolling, or  
b) He’s sincere

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