# Louisiana Republicans are so dumb they blame Obama for Katrina

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**Created:** [August 22, 2013, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louisiana-republicans-are-so-dumb-they-blame-obama-for-katrina/666907 "2013-08-22T21:07:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louisiana-republicans-are-so-dumb-they-blame-obama-for-katrina/666907/41 "2013-08-23T12:46:51Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> :eek: Og, “Bob,” and Jesus-Allah, are the Pubs this dumb in **every** state nowadays?!

Its why cutting the heart out of education is so central to the GOP. A constant supply of stupid easily-led voters to lead them to victory after victory while spending less and having fewer unions to negotiate on behalf of workers (leaving more for the GOP to divvy up).  
_“The GOP: where Stupidity equals Money and Power”_

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louisiana-republicans-are-so-dumb-they-blame-obama-for-katrina/666907/42 "2013-08-23T13:23:06Z")

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Meh. Any time people in the Deep South are asked this stuff the numbers for Democrats are only slightly less disturbing than the numbers for Republicans. Remember [this poll](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/12/interracial-marriage-deep-south_n_1339827.html)? We had a thread about it and a similar number of Mississippi _Democrats_ also thought interracial marriage should be illegal.

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louisiana-republicans-are-so-dumb-they-blame-obama-for-katrina/666907/43 "2013-08-23T13:37:22Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Barack Obama: Time Lord.

His Time Lord name is The One. A younger John McCain was his companion, he’s getting so pissy lately because he can’t figure out how to get Obama to open his chameleon circuit watch. It all makes sense now.

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louisiana-republicans-are-so-dumb-they-blame-obama-for-katrina/666907/44 "2013-08-23T14:17:00Z")

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I’m still mad at Obama for shooting president Garfield. I mean, why, dammit, WHY!?!?!

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louisiana-republicans-are-so-dumb-they-blame-obama-for-katrina/666907/45 "2013-08-23T15:04:40Z")

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> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#):
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> I’m still mad at Obama for shooting president Garfield. I mean, why, dammit, WHY!?!?!

Had him confused with the cartoon-cat. Wouldn’t **you** like to shoot that cat?!

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louisiana-republicans-are-so-dumb-they-blame-obama-for-katrina/666907/46 "2013-08-23T15:52:11Z")

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> [@LC\_Strawhouse](#):
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> Oh please, they just think it’s funny/satisfying to blame Obama. It’s a trolling survey that is worthless to take seriously.
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> It’s like asking people if their in-laws are shapeshifting goat-monsters who eat unicorns. Of course they’ll say “YES”

I agree. Its a poll by Democrats to make the Republicans look bad. It makes the tacit assumption that Katrina was handled badly, so there is no where for a partisan to go. A 20% crazification factor of knee jerk anti-Obama is par for the course, with a plurality saying don’t know because they disagree with the underlying assumption that Katrina was mishandled.

I’m sure a poll of Democrats asking who do you think is most responsible for the Bengazi cover-up, Obama or Sarah Palin, would get similar results.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louisiana-republicans-are-so-dumb-they-blame-obama-for-katrina/666907/47 "2013-08-23T16:05:46Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> I’m sure a poll of Democrats asking who do you think is most responsible for the Bengazi cover-up, Obama or Sarah Palin, would get similar results.

Tried to slip one by there, didn’t you? There was no cover-up, which has been amply demonstrated.

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louisiana-republicans-are-so-dumb-they-blame-obama-for-katrina/666907/48 "2013-08-23T16:16:08Z")

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If you read the crosstabs in the actual survey report, 14% of those that blamed Obama for the Katrina response self identified as liberal.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louisiana-republicans-are-so-dumb-they-blame-obama-for-katrina/666907/49 "2013-08-23T16:37:07Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> It makes the tacit assumption that Katrina was handled badly . . .

Not a questionable assumption.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louisiana-republicans-are-so-dumb-they-blame-obama-for-katrina/666907/50 "2013-08-23T16:44:52Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Had him confused with the cartoon-cat. Wouldn’t **you** like to shoot that cat?!

There’s more than one way to skin a cat, but some are more entertaining that others.

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**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louisiana-republicans-are-so-dumb-they-blame-obama-for-katrina/666907/51 "2013-08-23T16:46:37Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> People use polls to express displeasure, not their grasp of the facts. There was a study recently that offered rewards for correct answers to political questions and the results were a lot better. It doesn’t matter what the question is, all they hear is “please tell us how much you hate Obama”. A lot. They hate him a lot.

Yeah. There’s some discussion of this phenomenon [here](http://plainblogaboutpolitics.blogspot.com/2013/08/catch-of-day_23.html).

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louisiana-republicans-are-so-dumb-they-blame-obama-for-katrina/666907/52 "2013-08-23T16:46:52Z")

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Who is more responsible for the Benghazi cover-up? Cookie Monster or Voldemort?

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louisiana-republicans-are-so-dumb-they-blame-obama-for-katrina/666907/53 "2013-08-23T16:57:23Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> No, Republican generally start speaking well of a Democrat once they’ve safely left office. It makes them look fair-minded in a way that has no meaning. So a lot of Republicans starting saying Clinton was okay once he’d finished his eight years in office. It’s only recently they’ve swung back out of concern that Hillary might get elected.

Our own Adaher has already started calling Clinton a conservative and a Blue Dog (Democrats who are so conservative that several of them have actually become Republicans).

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**Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louisiana-republicans-are-so-dumb-they-blame-obama-for-katrina/666907/54 "2013-08-23T17:04:20Z")

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[What do you want more than anything in the world?](http://brunching.com/leastvalidpoll.html)  
Believe it or not, it’s a car that bursts into flames when you signal left.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louisiana-republicans-are-so-dumb-they-blame-obama-for-katrina/666907/55 "2013-08-23T18:17:50Z")

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> [@aNewLeaf](#):
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> Read question #3. They didn’t find many.

That tells me they purposely didn’t look for many.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louisiana-republicans-are-so-dumb-they-blame-obama-for-katrina/666907/56 "2013-08-23T18:20:10Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Tried to slip one by there, didn’t you? There was no cover-up, which has been amply demonstrated.

That’s my point. The question I asked makes the tacit assumption that there was a Benghazi cover-up, so there is no correct answer for someone who, rightly, doesn’t think there was a cover-up. Similarly for those Republicans who think that Katrina wasn’t mishandled, there is no correct option.

For the record, a look at my posting history will demonstrate that I have no love for Bush nor hatred for Obama. I just don’t like reading too much into polls whose questions are so obviously partisan, as they really just represent cheer leading.

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**Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louisiana-republicans-are-so-dumb-they-blame-obama-for-katrina/666907/57 "2013-08-23T23:07:40Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> That’s my point. The question I asked makes the tacit assumption that there was a Benghazi cover-up, so there is no correct answer for someone who, rightly, doesn’t think there was a cover-up. Similarly for those Republicans who think that Katrina wasn’t mishandled, there is no correct option.
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> For the record, a look at my posting history will demonstrate that I have no love for Bush nor hatred for Obama. I just don’t like reading too much into polls whose questions are so obviously partisan, as they really just represent cheer leading.

Agreed. Plus a lot of the time these questions are hidden among others: Who is more responsible, Bush or Obama for, the poor economy, the national debt, the deficit, crime, drug use, prostitution, decline of civilization, legal marijuana, the post-Katrina response, poor health care, high taxes, lack of prayer in school, high numbers of abortion, etc.

You’ve got Republicans ticking Obama down the line and they miss the one that doesn’t make sense. The poll asked a bullshit question and got a bullshit answer.

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**Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louisiana-republicans-are-so-dumb-they-blame-obama-for-katrina/666907/58 "2013-08-23T23:28:48Z")

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> [@jtgain](#):
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> Agreed. Plus a lot of the time these questions are hidden among others: Who is more responsible, Bush or Obama for, the poor economy, the national debt, the deficit, crime, drug use, prostitution, decline of civilization, legal marijuana, the post-Katrina response, poor health care, high taxes, lack of prayer in school, high numbers of abortion, etc.

Oh. Well, actually, those are all mine. Sorry. :o

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**Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louisiana-republicans-are-so-dumb-they-blame-obama-for-katrina/666907/59 "2013-08-23T23:37:33Z")

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> [@jtgain](#):
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> You’ve got Republicans ticking Obama down the line and they miss the one that doesn’t make sense. The poll asked a bullshit question and got a bullshit answer.

And the Republicans answering the poll have been fed the bullshit that Obama is to blame for everything.  
And should read the questions.

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**Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louisiana-republicans-are-so-dumb-they-blame-obama-for-katrina/666907/60 "2013-08-24T01:03:48Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Similarly for those Republicans who think that Katrina wasn’t mishandled, there is no correct option.

I would imagine that the number of Louisiana residents (even 'Pubs) who think this is within the margin of error and probably meaningless for this discussion. If this had been a nationwide (or really even multi-Southern state) poll, this criticism would have more weight.

> [@jtgain](#):
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> Agreed. Plus a lot of the time these questions are hidden among others: Who is more responsible, Bush or Obama for, the poor economy, the national debt, the deficit, crime, drug use, prostitution, decline of civilization, legal marijuana, the post-Katrina response, poor health care, high taxes, lack of prayer in school, high numbers of abortion, etc.
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> You’ve got Republicans ticking Obama down the line and they miss the one that doesn’t make sense. The poll asked a bullshit question and got a bullshit answer.

Oh golly, it sure would suck if we asked people who VOLUNTEERED for a poll to actually fucking think about their answers (especially 'Pubs). And your list is false equivalence, you are mixing things (near) universally seen as “an issue” (albeit, in the case of marijuana from opposite sides - which would lead to the interesting result that one side might say the name with blame and the other side might say the same name with credit) with things that are seen as “an issue” by one side, but not the other.

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