# Louisiana woman forced to either carry headless fetus to term or travel to Florida for an abortion **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 16, 2022, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louisiana-woman-forced-to-either-carry-headless-fetus-to-term-or-travel-to-florida-for-an-abortion/969783 "2022-08-16T21:37:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louisiana-woman-forced-to-either-carry-headless-fetus-to-term-or-travel-to-florida-for-an-abortion/969783/41 "2022-08-18T23:28:59Z")
BTW, I discovered this rabbit hole within the past hour, and signed up for full access to the site. Some of the scariest-looking images turn out to be surprisingly harmless things, like a female fetus that appeared to have a penis growing out of its sacrum (it was a benign fatty tumor) and another image that looked like conjoined twins but was actually a mirror-image ultrasound artifact. [https://thefetus.net/content/about-us](https://thefetus.net/content/about-us) ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louisiana-woman-forced-to-either-carry-headless-fetus-to-term-or-travel-to-florida-for-an-abortion/969783/42 "2022-08-18T23:34:57Z")
And here’s a bio/obituary for the website’s founder. Dr. Philippe Jeanty was a pioneer of OB/GYN imaging. > **[Giants in Obstetrics and Gynecology Series: Philippe Jeanty, MD, PhD, a...](https://www.ajog.org/article/S0002-9378(21)00223-4/fulltext)** > > Philippe Jeanty, MD, PhD, a pioneer in obstetric and gynecologic ultrasound, has made > key contributions to the study of fetal anatomy, biometry, growth, and the diagnosis > of congenital anomalies. He is regarded as one of the most influential mentors... ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louisiana-woman-forced-to-either-carry-headless-fetus-to-term-or-travel-to-florida-for-an-abortion/969783/43 "2022-08-19T00:14:06Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > “Abortion” is the medical word for ANY pregnancy that ends prior to viability, regardless of how, I know I’ve mentioned it on this board before, but when I was a kid a friend’s mother went through a really nasty divorce. This was pre-HIPAA; somehow, the soon-to-be-ex-husband got ahold of this poor lady’s medical records, and made it known what an awful person she was because she had gone in for _an abortion!_ I think the OB-GYN ended up going to court – or at least before a judge – to explain that this “abortion” was what the common language would refer to as a _miscarriage._ ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louisiana-woman-forced-to-either-carry-headless-fetus-to-term-or-travel-to-florida-for-an-abortion/969783/44 "2022-08-19T01:58:37Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > This was born out in Kansas. More like miscarried. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louisiana-woman-forced-to-either-carry-headless-fetus-to-term-or-travel-to-florida-for-an-abortion/969783/45 "2022-08-19T02:22:04Z")
> [@Temporary\_Name](#): > > I am not sure what you are getting at by equating “Christians” with “Americans”,… Are there asshole Americans? I think I can call the MAGAs “assholes”, so calling out all Christianity for being part of the Evangelical 20%, is like calling out all Americans for being part of the asshole MAGAs. That is called “Tarring with too broad of a brush” i.e the Logical Fallacy " **Sweeping Generalization**. Don’t blame all Americans for those asshole 35%, Don’t blame all Christians for those asshole 20%. To do so is also being Bigoted. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louisiana-woman-forced-to-either-carry-headless-fetus-to-term-or-travel-to-florida-for-an-abortion/969783/46 "2022-08-19T02:44:27Z")
Defenses in the nature of _“Not all \_\_\_\_\_”_ tend to not be very effective in these here parts. They quickly elicit the counter-response _“Well if the sensible ones outnumber the loons, why don’t they take them down?”_ But going back to the thread theme: > [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#): > > “This woman is not seeking an abortion,” said state Sen. Katrina Jackson, D-Monroe. “This woman is seeking a medical procedure for a pregnancy that is not viable outside of the womb.” > [@nearwildheaven](#): > > “Abortion” is the medical word for ANY pregnancy that ends prior to viability, regardless of how Y’see part of the deal is that the advocates of these laws operate under the premise that _ **they** _ will be able to afford to lawyer up a justification of “medical procedure for a pregancy that is not viable” if they or someone close to them were to need one. Then they are shocked, just shocked that many women are not able to, and that many providers are not confident that this protects them. ---
**Author:** ![Temporary\_Name](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Temporary\_Name](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Temporary_Name)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louisiana-woman-forced-to-either-carry-headless-fetus-to-term-or-travel-to-florida-for-an-abortion/969783/47 "2022-08-19T04:01:18Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Don’t blame all Americans for those asshole 35%, Don’t blame all Christians for those asshole 20%. To do so is also being Bigoted. I addressed this directly to you above. Before you accuse me of any logical fallacy, perhaps you should read up on the subject a little more. I will make a few recommendations below – **And that will be the end of me contributing to this hijack of the thread!!** As I said above: Not all Christians are [bad/evil/wrong/misguided/etc.] – however all of the people pushing these anti-abortion laws are Evangelical Christians (except their leader Paul Weyrich who is Catholic). Perhaps start by reading this article written by Sarah Posner published yesterday: (I will recommend her book below) [https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/christian-right-fbi-raid-trump](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/christian-right-fbi-raid-trump) And then- Perhaps the best book on the conflation of the Religious Right and the Republican Party is: > **[The Power Worshippers - Katherine Stewart](https://katherinestewart.me/books/the-power-worshippers/)** > > A revelatory investigation of the Religious Right's rise to political power. For too long the Religious Right has masqueraded as a social movement preoccupied with a number of cultural issues, such as abortion and same-sex marriage. But in her deeply... She traces the history of how the movement moved from segregation to abortion because it is easier to sell. She shows how the fore mentioned Paul Weyrich created the modern Republican Party. But mostly she demonstrates how a few powerful organizations shape the entire agenda of the Religious Right and the entire GOP – also how they “use” those same sincere people by appealing to their piety. A very good book on the subject. > **[Unholy: Why White Evangelicals Worship at the Altar of Donald Trump: Posner,...](https://www.amazon.com/Unholy-White-Evangelicals-Worship-Donald/dp/1984820427)** > > Unholy: Why White Evangelicals Worship at the Altar of Donald Trump \[Posner, Sarah\] on Amazon.com. \*FREE\* shipping on qualifying offers. Unholy: Why White Evangelicals Worship at the Altar of Donald Trump This is from the author of the article above. > **[Jesus and John Wayne: How White Evangelicals Corrupted …](https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/53121662)** > > A scholar of American Christianity presents a seventy-f… This book is written by a devout Christian who is a professor at a Christian University. It also covers the history that explains the evolution of the religious right and how it has become the primary force within the Republican Party. Now please, if you have more to say on the topic start a new thread and invite me to join you there. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louisiana-woman-forced-to-either-carry-headless-fetus-to-term-or-travel-to-florida-for-an-abortion/969783/48 "2022-08-19T22:22:57Z")
Update: Most of the cases I’ve seen are from a hospital in Reunion Island. With HIPAA, I could see why they wouldn’t show American cases. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louisiana-woman-forced-to-either-carry-headless-fetus-to-term-or-travel-to-florida-for-an-abortion/969783/49 "2022-08-19T22:48:12Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > But a question? why is she forced to go to _Florida,_ instead of a reproductive rights friendly state? Yeah, no kidding. Pick a state where its legal and has the cheapest plane ticket. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louisiana-woman-forced-to-either-carry-headless-fetus-to-term-or-travel-to-florida-for-an-abortion/969783/50 "2022-08-20T01:53:08Z")
Several of my liberal-Christian friends and acquaintances have highly recommended the “Jesus and John Wayne” book. I should see if my library has it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/louisiana-woman-forced-to-either-carry-headless-fetus-to-term-or-travel-to-florida-for-an-abortion/969783.md?page=2)