# Love, actually? why not call it Shit, Actually **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 19, 2003, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-actually-why-not-call-it-shit-actually/214087 "2003-11-19T13:50:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-actually-why-not-call-it-shit-actually/214087/41 "2003-11-20T08:46:59Z")
For the record: _Four Weddings and a Funeral_ was a great flick. So was _Two Weeks Notice_ and _About a Boy_ and _Sense and Sensibility_. _Notting Hill_ was crap. So was _9 Months_. But that was a writing issue, not Hugh Grant issue. I mean, how am I supposed to believe that a child psychologist gets freaked out by the presence of children??? ---
**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-actually-why-not-call-it-shit-actually/214087/42 "2003-11-20T08:57:46Z")
Diamond geezer, **Crusoe.** [Peggy Mitchell](http://www.bbc.co.uk/eastenders/characters/peggy_b_fact.shtml): Fwanks wiv me naww, _ **ya Bitch** _ [Pat Butcher](http://www.bbc.co.uk/eastenders/characters/pat_e_biog.shtml): You _ **sleeeeegggg** _ ---
**Author:** ![paulberserker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@paulberserker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulberserker)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-actually-why-not-call-it-shit-actually/214087/43 "2003-11-20T09:17:58Z")
**YOOOUUURR NOTT MOI MAVVERRRR!** **YES OI AAAAAMM!!** (end Eastenders quotes) Hey, I’m all for supid no brainer movies. I **like** Armageddon even. Theres been plenty good films out i’ve seen this year. But why bother with this if you’ve seen any other Richard Curtis film? His work on BlackAdder aside, this guys a one trick pony. I will guarantee you not one character or situation in this film has any bearing on real life. And yes, I know, thats the point of most films as escapism or suspension of disbelief, but for the many people who will suffer through this film, it gives a false impression of people in England. NOBODY talks like Hugh Grant. Or even acts like that. and as a hijack on my own thread **what the fuck** is with the accents on Buffy the Vampire Slayer?? I was watching it last night (I think its the final series on BBC2), and there was some young next in line Slayer with what I imagine is a ‘Cockerney’ accent. It was fucking unbelievable, in all senses of the word. And that vampire lass that used to be on it what went out with Spike. Yes, I am a Prime Minister Yes, i’m going to get Dick Van Dyke. **People in England have regional accents! Learn from this, american TV and FILM!** here endeth the lesson ---
**Author:** ![WILLASS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/54ee81/32.png) [@WILLASS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WILLASS)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-actually-why-not-call-it-shit-actually/214087/44 "2003-11-20T09:23:52Z")
I saw that **paulbeserker** , very fookin dodgy…also note ‘Dirty Dens’ daughter off ‘Eastenders’ has lost her L.A twang in the space of about 2 episodes…strange. ---
**Author:** ![spogga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@spogga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spogga)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-actually-why-not-call-it-shit-actually/214087/45 "2003-11-20T09:29:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Aries28 \* > \*\*Spudfuck wankcheese? 😃 > > I think I love you. \*\* After you with Aries28 and can I have that quote of his as a sig? ---
**Author:** ![Floater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dc4da7/32.png) [@Floater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Floater)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-actually-why-not-call-it-shit-actually/214087/46 "2003-11-20T13:54:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by beagledave \* > I was thinking more like Divine Brown. But that wasn’t fucking. It wasn’t even sex (according to Clinton). ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-actually-why-not-call-it-shit-actually/214087/47 "2003-11-20T13:57:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by spogga \* > \*\*After you with Aries28 and can I have that quote of his as a sig? \*\* Oh sure, just tear me apart and argue over what’s left… ---
**Author:** ![paulberserker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@paulberserker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulberserker)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-actually-why-not-call-it-shit-actually/214087/48 "2003-11-20T14:25:04Z")
I’m a Prime Minister, not a prossie or an attention seeking ‘famous for being famous’ clothes horse with the acting ability of an inanimate object and dead soulless eyes staring out at me from magazine covers. The original thing was suppose to be Hugh fucking Grant, not: ## but believe me when I say I know enough about FUCKING HUGH GRANT 😛 Still, shows you how good in bed Liz Hurley is if FopBoy has to go to a $10 hooker to get his cock smoked. Heh heh…, ---
**Author:** ![WILLASS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/54ee81/32.png) [@WILLASS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WILLASS)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-actually-why-not-call-it-shit-actually/214087/49 "2003-11-20T14:27:52Z")
Ok, Ok, i’m now being dragged to go and see this lump of turkey jizz film with my girlfriend when it comes out. After I politley told her that i’d rather ‘cheese grate my helmet and dunk it in vinegar’ She informed me that it was her turn to choose a movie (I chose ‘Kill Bill’, annoyingley she wanted to see that) and that if I didn’t go _and enjoy it_ she would withdraw all ‘privileges’. I may have to shit my own pants to liven things up… ---
**Author:** ![WILLASS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/54ee81/32.png) [@WILLASS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WILLASS)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-actually-why-not-call-it-shit-actually/214087/50 "2003-11-20T14:29:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by paulberserker \* > \*\* > Still, shows you how good in bed Liz Hurley is if FopBoy has to go to a $10 hooker to get his cock smoked. Heh heh…, \*\* Never underestimate the ‘humming’ power of a $10 'ho, it is after all, her job…:eek: ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-actually-why-not-call-it-shit-actually/214087/51 "2003-11-20T16:04:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by paulberserker \* > \*\*and as a hijack on my own thread **what the fuck** is with the accents on Buffy the Vampire Slayer?? I was watching it last night (I think its the final series on BBC2), and there was some young next in line Slayer with what I imagine is a ‘Cockerney’ accent. It was fucking unbelievable, in all senses of the word. And that vampire lass that used to be on it what went out with Spike. > > Yes, I am a Prime Minister > Yes, i’m going to get Dick Van Dyke. > > **People in England have regional accents! Learn from this, american TV and FILM!** > > here endeth the lesson \*\* No, the new slayer has a Caribbean accent. Not an English one. The only regulars with British accents are Spike, Drusilla and Giles. And only Drusilla’s is bad. Well, plus Angel’s Irish accent, but that almost never happens on the show. And considering when I was in England no one could tell the difference between my non-accent (from California), the person with the heavy Texas’ accent and the person with the heavy Boston accent I really don’t want to hear any whining from you folks across the pond about regional accents. What really gets me is the people in the UK who heard me talking and thought I was from Australia. Gah! ---
**Author:** ![paulberserker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@paulberserker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulberserker)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-actually-why-not-call-it-shit-actually/214087/52 "2003-11-20T16:28:04Z")
this is the white girl you’re talking about? with the dodgy accent? theres a black girl (rhona?) kennedy, chloe and the blonde one with the stupid accent. are we on the same trolley here? ---
**Author:** ![spogga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@spogga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spogga)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-actually-why-not-call-it-shit-actually/214087/53 "2003-11-20T16:59:39Z")
‘cheese grate my helmet and dunk it in vinegar’ Brilliant! ---
**Author:** ![alexandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@alexandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alexandra)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-actually-why-not-call-it-shit-actually/214087/54 "2003-11-20T21:59:40Z")
> [@](#): > > And considering when I was in England no one could tell the difference between my non-accent (from California), the person with the heavy Texas’ accent and the person with the heavy Boston accent I really don’t want to hear any whining from you folks across the pond about regional accents. The point is many TV producers in America aren’t aware that there ARE more accents than Cockney and RP, not that they can’t decipher between them which would be quite understandable. You must have met some stupid people though, who the fuck would confuse an American and Aussie accent? ---
**Author:** ![Monkeytoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Monkeytoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monkeytoes)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-actually-why-not-call-it-shit-actually/214087/55 "2003-11-20T22:14:09Z")
Another quick vote for the impressiveness of “28 Days Later”. I saw it on video over 2 weeks ago and am _still_ getting flashbacks. Ergh! I liked the “Hugh grant playing the only character he can play” movies the first couple of times. After that, no. Lately, I’ve joined the legions who want to see him killed in nasty ways. ---
**Author:** ![g8rguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7cd45c/32.png) [@g8rguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/g8rguy)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2003, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-actually-why-not-call-it-shit-actually/214087/56 "2003-11-21T00:08:37Z")
> [@](#): > > You must have met some stupid people though, who the fuck would confuse an American and Aussie accent? Well, for one, the twit at the rental car agency in Orlando… But he’s obviously too stupid for words, after asking if I was an Aussie, he asked if I was French. I’m still confused, 3 years later. ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2003, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-actually-why-not-call-it-shit-actually/214087/57 "2003-11-21T00:45:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by paulberserker \* > \*\*this is the white girl you’re talking about? with the dodgy accent? > > theres a black girl (rhona?) kennedy, chloe and the blonde one with the stupid accent. are we on the same trolley here? \*\* Oh wait. You’re talking about the final season. For some reason I thought you were talking about season 2. I think it’s because that’s what is rerunning on FX over here right now so I got the two confused. I haven’t seen the last season in a while, so I can’t hear what her voice was. But I’ll take your word for it. > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by alexandra_ > **The point is many TV producers in America aren’t aware that there ARE more accents than Cockney and RP, not that they can’t decipher between them which would be quite understandable. > You must have met some stupid people though, who the fuck would confuse an American and Aussie accent?** Well, if Americans cant’ distinguish between them (I can sort of, but not really) why would we bother trying to get American actors to try out anything besides the stereotypical? And I dunno about the Aussie accent thing. I couldn’t understand it, either, and I was quite taken aback the first time someone thought I was Australian based on my accent. But I got it at least 10 times over the course of 4 months, and not just be the elderly either. Very bizarre. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2003, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-actually-why-not-call-it-shit-actually/214087/58 "2003-11-21T01:30:03Z")
G’Day, **Neurotik**!! Glad to hear ya haven’t get killed Down Under by all those deadly creatures out there in the Outback! If you survive, we’ll put some put some shrimp on the barbie for ya, mate! Crikey!! 🙂 Re: the OP. I saw this movie. It sucks tremendously. Hugh Grant as the Prime Minister was about as believable as President Harrison Ford kicking the crap out of professional mercenaries in their 20’s in _Air Force One_. Liam Neeson’s grieving period didn’t last as long as mine for my pet rock. I agreed to go b/c I love Laura Linney. She managed to irritate the shit out of me during her 3 minutes of screen time. To entertain myself, every time Hugh Grant was on screen I leaned over to my wife and whispered “I’m just a girl…standing in front of a boy…asking him…to love her…” I’m picking the next movie. I’m thinking of a Sergio Leone DVD rental marathon. ---
**Author:** ![paulberserker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@paulberserker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulberserker)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2003, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-actually-why-not-call-it-shit-actually/214087/59 "2003-11-21T10:37:03Z")
Thank christ that even when I did have an SO (upto 3 months ago) she wouldnt make me go see stuff like this. If she aint going to see Star Wars/sci fi/ anime films with me, I certainly aint going to no chick flicks. Ha! the SDMB peeps who saw this movie proves me right! Sergio Leone DVD marathon? good call. I may go get Once upon a time in the west myself this weekend. And as for the Buffy crap accent, it is the final season i’m on about. I’ll accept that most americans would be confused by regional accents- most i’ve met are confused by mine, in fact I know english people confused by mine (broad yorkshire)- but she could at least do it something like. they have these people in Hollywood called VOICE COACHES. they TEACH YOU HOW TO SPEAK IN A REGIONAL ACCENT. I’m sure Buffy’s budget was big enough to accomodate one of these. Bah! ---
**Author:** ![confessorknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9a140/32.png) [@confessorknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/confessorknight)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2003, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-actually-why-not-call-it-shit-actually/214087/60 "2003-11-21T12:15:58Z")
As regards **Dog Soldiers** I was fairly sure that the fake guns(now what the hell are those things called) were modelled on SA80s - but the live-firing guns they picked up from Captain Ryan’s (special forces _but_ never refered to as SAS) squad did largely seem to be made up of MP5s. I think as as the movie is concerned Ryan and his team just do what they want as regards weaponery (fair enough considering the SA80s apparent reputation as a piece of shit among soldiers[as reported in every article about the inadequacy of British military gear] ) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-actually-why-not-call-it-shit-actually/214087.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-actually-why-not-call-it-shit-actually/214087.md?page=4)