# Love always finds a way

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-always-finds-a-way/806783>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 17, 2018, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-always-finds-a-way/806783 "2018-01-17T00:00:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-always-finds-a-way/806783/1 "2018-01-17T00:00:49Z")

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Amor vincit omnia.

The BBC have a lovely story [here](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-42665317).

> [@BBC](#):
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> I advertised for a man to get me pregnant - then I fell in love

I’m not going to spoil it beyond that, but I know you will enjoy reading it.

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**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-always-finds-a-way/806783/2 "2018-01-17T03:07:51Z")

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Sorry, I don’t agree that it is so sweet. The woman ditches one man because of his infertility then wants to co-parent (not just use as a sperm donor but actually parent the child together) with somebody she finds on Craigslist. What is worse is that she wants a child so that she will have somebody to take care of her in her old age. I hope for her sake that the child is mentally and physically healthy itself, and does not have a drug addiction, a fatal car accident or just a rotten personality,  
That said, I wish them a long happy life and a happy healthy family.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-always-finds-a-way/806783/3 "2018-01-17T03:19:43Z")

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> [@psychobunny](#):
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> Sorry, I don’t agree that it is so sweet. The woman ditches one man because of his infertility then wants to co-parent (not just use as a sperm donor but actually parent the child together) with somebody she finds on Craigslist. What is worse is that she wants a child so that she will have somebody to take care of her in her old age. I hope for her sake that the child is mentally and physically healthy itself, and does not have a drug addiction, a fatal car accident or just a rotten personality,  
> That said, I wish them a long happy life and a happy healthy family.

I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who had a bit of an icky feeling for the mother. She not only left her infertile partner, but just didn’t feel like she could deal with his pain.

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> “He didn’t react well to the news and basically fell apart. I didn’t feel I had the ability to support him through it,” Jessica says.

It seems quite cold to me. Yes, they had only dated 6 months; I suppose she was only dating him a potential babymaker, anyway.

I am happy for them that she and the father are working out well.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-always-finds-a-way/806783/4 "2018-01-17T05:10:40Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> I’m not going to spoil it beyond that, but I know you will enjoy reading it.

I would agree with you, but then we would both be wrong.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-always-finds-a-way/806783/5 "2018-01-17T08:06:11Z")

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Wow, that’s just…ugh.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-always-finds-a-way/806783/6 "2018-01-17T08:45:15Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who had a bit of an icky feeling for the mother. She not only left her infertile partner, but just didn’t feel like she could deal with his pain.
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> > “He didn’t react well to the news and basically fell apart. I didn’t feel I had the ability to support him through it,” Jessica says.
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> It seems quite cold to me. Yes, they had only dated 6 months; I suppose she was only dating him a potential babymaker, anyway.
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> I am happy for them that she and the father are working out well.

There’s also this at the end:

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> “It’s great, when there is a particularly icky nappy, being able to hand the baby over to dad and say, ‘This is yours,’” Jessica says.

She doesn’t strike me as being particularly compassionate or sympathetic.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-always-finds-a-way/806783/7 "2018-01-17T10:31:18Z")

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She sounds like a bloody nightmare

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-always-finds-a-way/806783/8 "2018-01-17T11:53:40Z")

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I’m not seeing a lot of “love” in that story, except perhaps the love she has for herself.

Still, here’s hoping that being a parent forces her to grow the fuck up a little.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-always-finds-a-way/806783/9 "2018-01-17T11:55:45Z")

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Doubtful.

I hope the kid grows up able to GTFO soon and while still in posession of most of a mind.

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**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-always-finds-a-way/806783/10 "2018-01-18T05:37:49Z")

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I came back here to see if it was just me and I’m relieved to find it’s not. I did note the nappy quote.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-always-finds-a-way/806783/11 "2018-01-18T05:54:37Z")

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People are just oh so stupid. Poor kid.

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**Author:** ![Filbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/filbert/32/3433_2.png) [@Filbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Filbert)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-always-finds-a-way/806783/12 "2018-01-18T09:43:18Z")

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Aww, but at least now she hopefully has someone to advocate for better care if she gets hospitalised in old age, and that’s what really counts.

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**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-always-finds-a-way/806783/13 "2018-01-18T10:12:52Z")

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what a terrible person. from the beginning she sounds like she “wants a baby” like it’s a fashion accessory.

feel sorry for the kid. lifetime of little more than being used.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-always-finds-a-way/806783/14 "2018-01-18T17:05:09Z")

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She should write a memoir. The can title it _Conceit, Whinge, Fuck_, and do the talk show circuit to put her narcissism on full display.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![ZonexandScout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zonexandscout/32/544_2.png) [@ZonexandScout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZonexandScout)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-always-finds-a-way/806783/15 "2018-01-18T22:58:53Z")

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This is gross. First, let’s not say anything at all about a relationship or meeting “the one” until at least ten years after the fact. All my new cars were the “best car ever” for the first six months. Second…well, there is no second point. This is just icky and creepy.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-always-finds-a-way/806783/16 "2018-01-19T09:55:41Z")

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> [@psychobunny](#):
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> I came back here to see if it was just me and I’m relieved to find it’s not. I did note the nappy quote.

The nappy quote is one of the least objectionable points in the story; she may just be saying that it’s good to be able to tag-team on the grosser aspects of baby care rather than that she was handing them off entirely.

But her treatment of her ex, her reasons for wanting a baby and her general attitude toward her current partner do not reflect particularly well on her.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-always-finds-a-way/806783/17 "2018-01-19T10:09:47Z")

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I disagree with those who find it creepy. Love won through in the end, and that is what matters. So she split from her first love because she was desperate for a child and he was infertile? So what? Seems the right thing to do to me. It allowed both of them to move on.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-always-finds-a-way/806783/18 "2018-01-19T10:23:23Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> I disagree with those who find it creepy. Love won through in the end, and that is what matters. So she split from her first love because she was desperate for a child and he was infertile? So what? Seems the right thing to do to me. It allowed both of them to move on.

So if it was a guy who

1. Decided to take out an advert for a baby mama due to his barren partner not being able to have a child

2. Then dumped said barren partner for baby mama\

3. Boasted that he would dump all childcare on her.

That would have been seen as a great love story? We would have had dozens of Guardian articleds decrying the act.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-always-finds-a-way/806783/19 "2018-01-19T10:29:00Z")

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You left out

1. Wanted to have a baby so baby would take care of him.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-always-finds-a-way/806783/20 "2018-01-19T12:20:48Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> So she split from her first love because she was desperate for a child and he was infertile? So what? Seems the right thing to do to me. It allowed both of them to move on.

You’re ignoring this part:

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> “He didn’t react well to the news and basically fell apart. I didn’t feel I had the ability to support him through it,”

It wasn’t just that she wanted a child and he was infertile. It’s that he also wanted a child, found out he was infertile, was emotionally devastated and then got dumped by a partner who didn’t care about his personal suffering because he wasn’t going to give her what she wanted and supporting him seemed like a lot of work that wasn’t going to benefit her. That’s Grade A jerkhood right there - not quite “Newt Gingrich dumping his wife on her hospital bed” levels of jerkhood but it’s on the same continuum.

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