"Love" in action and victims of ex-gay brainwashing

[Excalibre]

@Mockingbird

Dear Asshole:

 Stop reading into my posts things that are not there.

 I did not say that your posts aren't substantive.

Uh, yeah, you did.

@Mockingbird

 I was politely trying to suggest you back the fuck off and stop personally criticizing me as you've been very quick to do with little provocation.

Sugarplum, if that’s your version of “politeness”, you must really be a hysterical, screaming ninny when you’re pissed off. At any rate, for you to imply that I have something against you is actually rather grandiose; I’ve never particularly thought about you before - if I’ve said something snarky, well, you probably deserved it at the time, and were you less childish, you’d probably have the capacity to let bygones be bygones (you ain’t no stranger to it yourself, even if yours is short on elegance.) Now, of course, I’ve come to the conclusion that you’re a moron and probably mentally disturbed. But before your little episode here, I had no ill will towards you at all.

@Mockingbird

 As you seem to read into my posts what you want, perhaps you do have synthetic blonde syndrome and should stop drinking the peroxide.

That didn’t even make sense. You can have a do-over if you like; I understand that the witless occasionally need a handicap when playing with their superiors.

@Mockingbird

Warmest Regards,

Mockingbird

They didn’t feel that warm to me.

@Mockingbird

P.S.: The day your posts possess more substance than mine is the day that Pat Robertson and Pat Buchanan confess their mutual forbidden love.

Well, we can only let history decide that, can’t we?

P.S.: Pat Buchanan is sooo the bottom.

@Mockingbird

Yes… my contributions have been paltry.*

Indeed.

@Mockingbird

And perhaps you and Excalibre need to learn some reading comprehension.

I am really fucking tired of how quickly you’re willing to turn against people.

gobear had to deal with it as well and he’s not the only gay poster who had to deal with this absolute bullshit when gay posters pull the “I’m not with him” routine.

The lot of you make me sick.

*Right. My contributions have been substantive and with the effort it requires me to type anything at length, I’d have to say that my posts have a lot more substance than any of yours will ever fucking have, you absolute tool.

Huh? What?

Drop the attitude, babe. I’m not sure if you’ve got some particular paranoia towards me and Miller or if something spiny just crawled up your ass and died, but you can let go of the persecution complex. I’m not sure exactly what situation you’re perceiving amongst “gay posters”, but I assure you it’s fantasy. I, for one, have never said a bad word about gobear and it certainly didn’t seem like anyone else did either. Regardless, I doubt he needs you as his knight in shining sequins.

Anyway, sweetheart, what I posted was just a suggestion that a Liberal-thread not start, since there’s already one in progress. That couldn’t possibly be construed as some sort of insult to you, so drop the whiny little bitch routine. It was unnecessary for you to respond by claiming that my posts lack substance. A quick read through the thread will disabuse you of that notion. I see insults flung hither and yon, one-liners, and an attempt to drag the whole thread down to the level of brickbacon and yourself.

P.S.: Miller and I have tangled before, and we weren’t even all that nice about it. If you think he’s “on my team”, I sincerely doubt that’s the case. For one, I don’t think he plays silly games like that, and two, it just ain’t what history would suggest. If you think he agrees with me a lot, perhaps I just often post things he agrees with. It’s not a conspiracy, sweetheart.

P.P.S.: What’s with the whining about typing? The fact that your posts are short and poorly typed most likely detracts from their substance, not the other way around.

[Miller]

Wow. All that, and all I did was suggest his posts in this thread lacked content. Wonder what would have happened if I’d actually insulted him? His head might have popped.

[brickbacon]

@Excalibre

Anyway, sweetheart, what I posted was just a suggestion that a Liberal-thread not start, since there’s already one in progress. That couldn’t possibly be construed as some sort of insult to you, so drop the whiny little bitch routine. It was unnecessary for you to respond by claiming that my posts lack substance. A quick read through the thread will disabuse you of that notion. I see insults flung hither and yon, one-liners, and an attempt to drag the whole thread down to the level of brickbacon and yourself.

WELL FUCK YOU TOO!

Don’t you people ever go outside or have any other human contact? I didn’t disrespect anybody who didn’t disrespect me first. Either way, the fact that you are now turning on each other, and whining about hurt feelings is fucking pathetic. I only wish I could bring myself to care enough about you to take joy in your histrionics.

Even warmer regards,

Brick

[andros]

@brickbacon

WELL FUCK YOU TOO!

Don’t you people ever go outside or have any other human contact? I didn’t disrespect anybody who didn’t disrespect me first. Either way, the fact that you are now turning on each other, and whining about hurt feelings is fucking pathetic. I only wish I could bring myself to care enough about you to take joy in your histrionics.

Pretty much a slam-dunk there, pally. Way to demonstrate his point.

[Feydeau]

@Binarydrone

Let me ask that another way; hypothetically, what is your bottom line? If I were to say that evil is something that is on a spectrum, what would you define as the least evil thing that would still be on that spectrum?

@brickbacon

Well, things like torturing animals would be up there.

I promised myself that I wouldn’t respond to brickbacon’s inanity. Really I did. But no one called him on this, and I just can’t stand it.

I get that we’re hung up on a definition of torture.

But to say (repeatedly!) that imprisoning a 16-year-old young man against his will is okay (and specifically not evil) and then to go on to say that torturing animals would be considered evil…

Man, I agree with the earlier opinions. You’ve got neurological issues, brickbacon.

By the way, not that it matters, but brickbacon, are you gay? I can’t tell. And of course, we can’t believe you, as you’ve so generously pointed out that anyone declaring their sexuality is not to be believed, but I was wondering.

Wait, on second thought, I don’t want to know. If you are gay, I’ll be sad. Very sad.

To get back (somewhat) to the OP, does anyone have a definite date that Zach went in, so that we may have an idea of when to expect that he’s been released?

[Mockingbird]

Against my better judgement I decided to see what you’d written in reponse. Congratulations. You lived down to my expectations. How pathetic.

[Mockingbird]

Oh… Excalibre:

PS: My ‘polite’ remarks earlier are as fucking polite as you deserve. You started jumping down my throat when I returned. At least I give people the benefit of the doubt.

[Miller]

@Mockingbird

At least I give people the benefit of the doubt.

HA!

[marshmallow]

You guys are weird.

[SparrowHawk]

@Feydeau

To get back (somewhat) to the OP, does anyone have a definite date that Zach went in, so that we may have an idea of when to expect that he’s been released?

His blog states that “The program starts June 6 and is until either the 17th or the 20th.” So this is his last week, possibly including the coming weekend.

I hope he’s doing okay. My heart goes out to this kid. (I know, I know. He’s a young man, but I’m kind of in Mom Mode. How anybody could so mistreat another human being, much less their own child…) At least he’s got a lot of support waiting for him outside.

[Talon_Karrde]

@Mockingbird

Yes… my contributions have been paltry.*

And perhaps you and Excalibre need to learn some reading comprehension.

I am really fucking tired of how quickly you’re willing to turn against people.

gobear had to deal with it as well and he’s not the only gay poster who had to deal with this absolute bullshit when gay posters pull the “I’m not with him” routine.

The lot of you make me sick.

*Right. My contributions have been substantive and with the effort it requires me to type anything at length, I’d have to say that my posts have a lot more substance than any of yours will ever fucking have, you absolute tool.

Are you seriously trying to portray Gobear as some martyr who left because he was “turned on” by the other gay people? He got more flak for criticizing christians than he deserved, but your description of the situation is inaccurate.

Excalibre, please cut back a little on psychoanalyzing other posters. For your own sake, if nothing else; it makes it harder to take you seriously.
I’m not good on logic, but doesn’t the premise of LIA conflict with what they’re doing to this kid? They say there’s no homosexuality, only behaviour, so they really shouldn’t do anything to this kid unless he’s been fucking other guys, right? And even then the only thing they should concern themselves with is making him stop doing that then trying to work on him psychologically, right?

[Mangetout]

@vibrotronica

You know what the problem with this thread is? It isn’t about Liberal. Can we talk about him more?

I liked it better when he was called Librarian, or something.

[SolGrundy]

@Talon Karrde

Are you seriously trying to portray Gobear as some martyr who left because he was “turned on” by the other gay people? He got more flak for criticizing christians than he deserved, but your description of the situation is inaccurate.

No, see, gay people are like Highlanders, locked forever in an uneasy truce while waiting for any sign of weakness to turn on their compatriots because there can be only one. Even my own proclivities for chest hair and testicles caused me to go against kind and speak out vehemently in defense of religious tolerance, driving poor gobear away.

[Crowbar_of_Irony_3]

One of the many reasons I have stopped going to church is this.

Most churches, to some extent or another, tend to examine your life to see if there are any ‘impurities’, anything not keeping to the religion. The thing is – it’s usually is informal, something that happens naturally. And most churches, in keeping with what Jesus said about grace, and Paul’s ideas on “weaker and stronger brothers”, usually leave grey issues to between that person and God.

Putting out a list, saying what is sinful, what is not, and worse of all, restricting freedom? That’s 100% unchristian. Christanity seems to be changes from the inside-out, not the traditional way of outside-in.

I really wish something can be done.

[Liberal]

@Mangetout

I liked it better when he was called Librarian, or something.

Alas, I was compelled by the Principle of non-Cistercian.

[Shirley_Ujest]

I wonder…at this anti-gay camp, do they not have on the menu hot dog in a bun?

Just wondering

[Mockingbird]

@Talon Karrde

Are you seriously trying to portray Gobear as some martyr who left because he was “turned on” by the other gay people? He got more flak for criticizing christians than he deserved, but your description of the situation is inaccurate.

I did not say that is why he left, nor was I trying to portray gobear as a martyr.

In criticizing Excalibre(not the sharpest knife in the drawer), you’ve also joined him in putting things into my mouth that I did not say.

[Mockingbird]

@Shirley Ujest

I wonder…at this anti-gay camp, do they not have on the menu hot dog in a bun?

Just wondering

Nah. They just slip the kids the bare weiner with a little catsup(ketchup is just so gay) squirted on.

[Mockingbird]

@Mangetout

I liked it better when he was called Librarian, or something.

You mean he’s actually read a book that WASN’T Ayn Rand?

Or are you suggesting he was some sort of librarian for the Libertarian party(not a group I think of as having parties)?

[SteveG1]

@SolGrundy

go against kind and speak out vehemently in defense of religious tolerance, driving poor gobear away.

Verily, there can BE only one [cheesy lightning bolt effects]