Absolutely. I don’t misrepresent the positions of the people for whom I fundraise, but (as this forum should suggest) I’m not shy about my own views. I’ve gotten attacked for them, too; I’ve had people tell me I’m not committed to the pro-life goal because I’ve argued against a judicial finding that would outlaw abortion at the federal level.
Interesting interview. The guy is a hell of a lot more forgiving than I’d be, under the same circumstances. I’m sure brickbacon will have a field day with it.
The philosophical foundations of the government agrees with Binarydrone on this issue. The idea is, Majority Rule, Minority Rights.
Which specific part of the reference you cite supports the idea that the majority of people are pretty stupid and uninformed and, from time to time, need to be dragged out of the last century?
The first paragraph:
The second paragraph:
And especially the sixth paragraph:
Yeah, I thought that was pretty much my own cynical take on things. Kudos to folks that can see things differently. I just ain’t one of them.
Watch out, Bricker! You sure you want another rhetorical ass-whupping from scott plaid? Remember, the man hasn’t yet lost a debate!
None of the words you quote says anything remotely like “people are pretty stupid and uninformed.” Not one.
OK, I know that you and I are in disagreement on some issues here. That said, could I take a moment to ask for your assurance that you are not putting me in the same mental “box” as Scott Plaid? It sure would mean the world to me.
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It isn’t the exact words, but the spirit, and the consequences. I read the sixth paragraph as: “People can be ignorant about minorities, and fear changes to cultures that give said minorities freedom. However, that should not stop minorities from enjoying common freedom, no matter how uninformed the majority is.” Tell me, how did you read that paragraph?
Of course not. Not the same mental box, not the same storage facility for mental boxes, not the same zip code for the storage facility for mental boxes, and not the same continent as contains the zip code for the storage facility for mental boxes.
Or, in a word, no.
Scott has done his usual blundering into a thread with no comprehension, and it’s unfortunate he has chosen to weigh in on your side, as it were, and he is undoubtedly furrowing his brow right now trying to comprehend why you are disassociating yourself with the winning side.
You and I disagree on how much is too much when it comes to remedying injustice with unjust or unwise means. Reasonable people may - and are- disagreeing on this point.
And as they disagree, they can look at the map that describes the far-away continent that contains the zip code that contains the storage facility that includes Scott’s “mental box.” Far, far away.
*Acceptance of ethnic and cultural groups that seem strange if not alien to the majority can represent one of the greatest challenges that any democratic government can face. But democracies recognize that diversity can be an enormous asset. They treat these differences in identity, culture, and values as a challenge that can strengthen and enrich them, not as a threat. *
Favorable reception of some minorities, especially those most different from the majority, can be difficult. But such favorable reception is a positive step, since the very differences that most separate the minority and the majority cultures are those that can provide valuable lessons and strength.
That’s how I would paraphrase the paragraph. There is not one word in there to indicate stupidity, and only the vaguest hint from which you might infer ignorance. The paragraph speaks to the challenge facing the majority; it never suggests that the majority is not equal to the challenge or denigrates the majority in any way.
Bricker. Thanks. It’s always good to distance oneself from the loons, even if they are “winning” the debate.
For the lova’ of Og! I was defending Binarydrone statement. Not taking the hyperbole literally, but instead challenging what seems to be Rick’s idea that the majority can run rampant over the minority.
I didn’t read Bricker’s posts like this at all. My take is that he simply has a great deal more faith in the intelligence and willingness to “do good” than I do.
Some people will read Rick’s 55% quote one way. Other will read it another way. Rick will insist that only the most charitable way of reading his posts is the correct one. Ob la Blah-, ob la dee, blah-blah, Life goes on.
Yes! you caught me! it is obvious from my posts that I am reading Bricker in a favorable way. My motherfucking cover is broken! Well, back to the Great White Oppressors headquarters.
Kidding aside: I don’t think I ever got an answer from you when I asked a while back if English was you native language.
Ah, Gaudere! Is there any post her law doesn’t apply to?
How many will read it in the context of a reply to another poster’s claim that the only a tiny minority holds the views in question?
And just as an aside: I can’t, of course, speak for Binarydrone. But I have a sneaking suspicion that he would be perfectly happy if you never ever attempted to “defend” his ideas again.
Yeah, yeah.