# Love sucks (lame rant)

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-sucks-lame-rant/183505
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [June 22, 2003, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-sucks-lame-rant/183505 "2003-06-22T00:06:11Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2003, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-sucks-lame-rant/183505/1 "2003-06-22T00:06:11Z")

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I hate love, its like ‘nailling jello to the wall’ as people in the states say, but its also has the alluring effect of which makes you attempt and attempt again…why? I have been let down and down again by it, so why keep perpetuating that pain? It astounds me what people do for love, it is like climbing a mountain to get to the peak, I’m babbling here, but I dunno, I just don’t think love is worth the hassle anymore, or the sacrifice, or anything else for that matter…so officially declare that in my view love sucks.

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### Author: ![Stupidhead\_Macjerkface\_Esq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Stupidhead\_Macjerkface\_Esq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stupidhead_Macjerkface_Esq)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2003, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-sucks-lame-rant/183505/2 "2003-06-22T00:55:19Z")

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How is sucking a bad thing? Perhaps you do not know love as well as you allude to. Or perhaps you should choose better words next time.

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### Author: ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2003, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-sucks-lame-rant/183505/3 "2003-06-22T00:57:04Z")

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why oh why did you post in my thread?

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### Author: ![Stupidhead\_Macjerkface\_Esq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Stupidhead\_Macjerkface\_Esq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stupidhead_Macjerkface_Esq)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2003, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-sucks-lame-rant/183505/4 "2003-06-22T01:05:29Z")

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I think it might be because

Shut up Ryan Liam.

The SDMB is not your personal LJ, do not treat it as one. Now, please go away so us adults can conduct mature conversaitions.

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### Author: ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2003, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-sucks-lame-rant/183505/5 "2003-06-22T01:08:17Z")

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I’ve seen you’re posts and threads and I have to say jerk, you are the child here…  
I can’t wait to see the word ‘banned’ under your username, I bid you good day Jerk.

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### Author: ![Stupidhead\_Macjerkface\_Esq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Stupidhead\_Macjerkface\_Esq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stupidhead_Macjerkface_Esq)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2003, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-sucks-lame-rant/183505/6 "2003-06-22T01:14:57Z")

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Do you take joy in annoying everybody around you?  
You are not a victim of love, you are a viictim of childish crushes. Please come back when you are more grown up and have a accurate view of things.

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### Author: ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2003, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-sucks-lame-rant/183505/7 "2003-06-22T01:18:55Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Stupidhead Macjerkface, Esq. \*  
> \*\*The SDMB is not your personal LJ, do not treat it as one. Now, please go away so us adults can conduct mature conversaitions. \*\*

Who the hell are you?  
That’s not rhetorical. Seriously. I’ve never seen you post anything before. Who are you?

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### Author: ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2003, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-sucks-lame-rant/183505/8 "2003-06-22T01:19:15Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Stupidhead Macjerkface, Esq. \*  
> \*\*Do you take joy in annoying everybody around you?  
> \*\*

Who are you? Have you not read you’re own threads you’re the most annoying prick on the boards at the moment, since you are an adult, and children learn most things from adults, I must then have to follow ure example :wally

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### Author: ![Sylkyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/da6949/32.png) [@Sylkyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylkyn)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2003, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-sucks-lame-rant/183505/9 "2003-06-22T01:20:15Z")

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WTF is going on here? God, I _always_ show up in this kinda crap.

You’d think I’d learn…but NOoooooooooooooo…

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### Author: ![Stupidhead\_Macjerkface\_Esq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Stupidhead\_Macjerkface\_Esq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stupidhead_Macjerkface_Esq)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2003, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-sucks-lame-rant/183505/10 "2003-06-22T01:23:52Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Neurotik \*  
> \*\*Who the hell are you?  
> That’s not rhetorical. Seriously. I’ve never seen you post anything before. Who are you? \*\*

I am a poster on the internet message board for the newspaper column the straight dope. I am also your lord and saviour. Please bow down and show your respect properly. 😉

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### Author: ![Stupidhead\_Macjerkface\_Esq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Stupidhead\_Macjerkface\_Esq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stupidhead_Macjerkface_Esq)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2003, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-sucks-lame-rant/183505/11 "2003-06-22T01:27:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ryan\_Liam \*  
> \*\*Who are you? Have you not read you’re own threads you’re the most annoying prick on the boards at the moment, since you are an adult, and children learn most things from adults, I must then have to follow ure example :wally \*\*

And just what the hell are you talking about?  
Bring back pie and hopefully maturity when you come back.

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### Author: ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2003, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-sucks-lame-rant/183505/12 "2003-06-22T01:35:26Z")

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I think we’re feeing a you know what guys here, I’m not responding to anymore of his rubbish…

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### Author: ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2003, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-sucks-lame-rant/183505/13 "2003-06-22T01:44:45Z")

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**Ryan** , having locked off the idea of risking love for a great deal of my adult life and then having gotten the guts to be vulnerable, I do have to disagree with your OP. It does, however, hurt a lot when things go wrong. Ignoring the problems that this thread may be having, do you want to talk (or rant) about what went wrong? I might have something helpful to say if I knew something more than that you’re pissed off about love hurting so much, and I can at least be a sympathetic ear … well, eye, considering we’re typing this stuff, but you know what I mean. 🙂

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### Author: ![XJETGIRLX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9fc29f/32.png) [@XJETGIRLX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XJETGIRLX)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2003, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-sucks-lame-rant/183505/14 "2003-06-22T01:47:04Z")

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My dear Ryan, I’m hoping you might find some solace in this passage from _The Prophet_ by Kahlil Gibran:

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> Then said Almitra, “Speak to us of Love.”
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> And he raised his head and looked upon the people, and there fell a stillness upon them. And with a great voice he said:
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> When love beckons to you follow him,
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> Though his ways are hard and steep.
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> And when his wings enfold you yield to him,
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> Though the sword hidden among his pinions may wound you.
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> And when he speaks to you believe in him,
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> Though his voice may shatter your dreams as the north wind lays waste the garden.
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> For even as love crowns you so shall he crucify you. Even as he is for your growth so is he for your pruning.
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> Even as he ascends to your height and caresses your tenderest branches that quiver in the sun,
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> So shall he descend to your roots and shake them in their clinging to the earth.
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> Like sheaves of corn he gathers you unto himself.
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> He threshes you to make you naked.
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> He sifts you to free you from your husks.
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> He grinds you to whiteness.
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> He kneads you until you are pliant;
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> And then he assigns you to his sacred fire, that you may become sacred bread for God’s sacred feast.
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> All these things shall love do unto you that you may know the secrets of your heart, and in that knowledge become a fragment of Life’s heart.
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> But if in your fear you would seek only love’s peace and love’s pleasure,
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> Then it is better for you that you cover your nakedness and pass out of love’s threshing-floor,
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> Into the seasonless world where you shall laugh, but not all of your laughter, and weep, but not all of your tears.
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> Love gives naught but itself and takes naught but from itself.
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> Love possesses not nor would it be possessed;
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> For love is sufficient unto love.
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> When you love you should not say, “God is in my heart,” but rather, I am in the heart of God."
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> And think not you can direct the course of love, if it finds you worthy, directs your course.
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> Love has no other desire but to fulfil itself.
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> But if you love and must needs have desires, let these be your desires:
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> To melt and be like a running brook that sings its melody to the night.
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> To know the pain of too much tenderness.
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> To be wounded by your own understanding of love;
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> And to bleed willingly and joyfully.
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> To wake at dawn with a winged heart and give thanks for another day of loving;
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> To rest at the noon hour and meditate love’s ecstasy;
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> To return home at eventide with gratitude;
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> And then to sleep with a prayer for the beloved in your heart and a song of praise upon your lips.

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### Author: ![Sylkyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/da6949/32.png) [@Sylkyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylkyn)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2003, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-sucks-lame-rant/183505/15 "2003-06-22T01:48:40Z")

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Yeah, what **Polycarp** said. I was too busy trippin’ over the above “conversation” to even address your OP. Sorry 'bout that.

Feel free to vent to me, as well, **Ryan**. Email’s in the profile. I have a good “eye” sometimes, too. 🙂

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### Author: ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2003, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-sucks-lame-rant/183505/16 "2003-06-22T01:51:11Z")

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Hey thanks **Polycarp** I guess my anger comes from frustration and lonliness, and when I attempt to do something about it I get ‘chewed and spat back out’ Or I feel like a doormat or they are not good enough for me, or my families opinion of the ‘right girl’ for me…I think it has to do with my self-confidence and self-esteem…I just don’t wanna put myself in a position where I wanna be hurt again, ever.

Thanks again Polycarp.

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### Author: ![Mama\_Tiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Mama\_Tiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Tiger)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2003, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-sucks-lame-rant/183505/17 "2003-06-22T01:56:23Z")

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I think we’ve all been there, **Ryan**. I guess the one thing I’ve learned, after being hurt more times than I want to admit to during the course of my life so far, is that the pain of losing love is still worth the risk. And pain is how we all learn and grow.

Sounds like you’re feeling bummed out about people right now. I don’t know if it helps, but please do know that you’re not alone in your feelings. I think almost everybody has been there at some point in their life.

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### Author: ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2003, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-sucks-lame-rant/183505/18 "2003-06-22T09:42:10Z")

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1. There is nothing as wonderful as being in love. Nothing.

2. There is nothing as painful as losing it. Nothing.

But you cannot know the joy of being in it AND avoid the pain of losing it (or having it elude you) at the same time. To get the high, you have to risk feeling the low.

Yeah, that does suck, but what are gonna do?

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### Author: ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)
#### Post date: [June 23, 2003, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-sucks-lame-rant/183505/19 "2003-06-23T06:22:31Z")

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Cue J. Geils Band  
…I’ve had the blues  
The reds and the pinks  
One thing for sure

(Love stinks)  
Love stinks yeah yeah  
(Love stinks)  
Love stinks yeah yeah…

I agree wholeheartedly with the OP’s lament. Sorry I have no great words of advice here.

You either keep on trying…or you lock your heart up for good. The first has more risk, but also more likelihood of you finding someone, the second is safer, but drastically reduces your chances of finding someone.

Way to state the obvious here I know (sorry), but that’s about what we’re all stuck with.

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### Author: ![lite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b5ac83/32.png) [@lite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lite)
#### Post date: [June 23, 2003, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-sucks-lame-rant/183505/20 "2003-06-23T06:39:26Z")

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You don’t know me personally so I don’t expect this to be the great light, but after thiking I found the “one” 4 times, I finally did. It so happened she was never married either and neither of us had kids till we married.

BTW, whe was 31 and I was 30. Sometimes it takes time. love is patient and will find you

(Fuck, that was sappy)

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