# Lovecraft Country S1 \[SPOILERS within\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovecraft-country-s1-spoilers-within/916355>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, hbomax-wb-dc\
**Created:** [July 26, 2020, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovecraft-country-s1-spoilers-within/916355 "2020-07-26T02:19:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovecraft-country-s1-spoilers-within/916355/21 "2020-08-20T20:17:33Z")

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Non-euclidean geometry.Cyclopean masonry.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovecraft-country-s1-spoilers-within/916355/22 "2020-08-20T21:25:57Z")

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I’ll shout _Fhtagn_! and run!

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovecraft-country-s1-spoilers-within/916355/23 "2020-08-20T21:59:33Z")

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Batrachian eldritch!

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovecraft-country-s1-spoilers-within/916355/24 "2020-08-21T20:50:26Z")

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Squamous and rugose.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2020, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovecraft-country-s1-spoilers-within/916355/25 "2020-08-22T15:30:44Z")

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A high-pitched trilling sound, wavering and unworldly

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2020, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovecraft-country-s1-spoilers-within/916355/26 "2020-08-22T17:29:40Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> What year are we in though. Atticus mentioned fighting in Korea, so I’m guessing early 1950s based on everything else. At first I thought late 40s.

[There’s a 1956 fire truck](http://imcdb.org/vehicle_1417121-Ward-LaFrance-Fireball-Special-1956.html) and [a billboard featuring a '55 Nomad](http://imcdb.org/vehicle_1417100-Chevrolet-Bel-Air-Nomad-2429-1955.html) so, barring any deliberate anachronisms like with _A Christmas Story_, late '55 to late '56 is most likely.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2020, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovecraft-country-s1-spoilers-within/916355/27 "2020-08-22T17:33:56Z")

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> [@SmartAleq](#):
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> Woodie wagons stopped being made circa '53 or so and the Woodie they’re driving around looks pretty pristine and likely would have been a late model for the time, say a '48-50 model.

The film crew has at least three of those.

[![](https://image.shutterstock.com/image-photo/elburn-ilusa-july-25-2018-600w-1142328626.jpg) ](https://image.shutterstock.com/image-photo/elburn-ilusa-july-25-2018-600w-1142328626.jpg)

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**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2020, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovecraft-country-s1-spoilers-within/916355/28 "2020-08-22T23:20:34Z")

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I would club baby seals for one of those!

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**Author:** ![snoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@snoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snoe)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2020, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovecraft-country-s1-spoilers-within/916355/29 "2020-08-23T06:32:33Z")

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> [@Paintcharge](#):
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> I read the book quite some time ago. Going from memory, wasn’t there a lot more that happened before they left Chicago? Like I seem to recall some clandestine meetings in a library or a church while trying to work out where Dad went.

Pretty sure you’re thinking of stuff that comes later in the plot. Though I don’t have my copy handy and could be wrong. As I remember it, they’re sticking pretty closely to the book’s plot so far.  
Spoiler: They have to rescue Montrose — and see more weird shit in Ardham —before the good guys’ secret society can be activated, which is what you’re remembering in terms of clandestine meetings, I think.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2020, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovecraft-country-s1-spoilers-within/916355/30 "2020-08-23T16:00:39Z")

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I checked out the ebook from the library, and will be reading up to the point of wherever the TV show is. They are doing a lot of tinkering around the edges on the plot, interchanging who does some things, and then making changes that I’m not sure what the purpose is.

So they add a guy getting a blow job in the alley, because HBO. And in the book, they tell Leticia she can’t go with them to the lodge, but she plays a different kind of role in their rescue (one with more agency, in my opinion). And the whole screaming match with her brother? Doesn’t happen. Also, you certainly don’t see what attacks from the woods early on.

Again, the overall direction is The same, just a lot of tinkering.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2020, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovecraft-country-s1-spoilers-within/916355/31 "2020-08-24T13:45:23Z")

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Show is staying strong and I love the music. Someone is doing a great job picking it out.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2020, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovecraft-country-s1-spoilers-within/916355/32 "2020-08-24T13:55:28Z")

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Well, they jumped right into an explanation of what those people were doing in Ardham, although it doesn’t look like that’s where the show is focusing its attention.

Agree about the music, though. The theme song from The Jeffersons was apt.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovecraft-country-s1-spoilers-within/916355/33 "2020-08-25T04:11:42Z")

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MICHAEL K WILLIAMS! I haven’t been following casting, so that caught me by surprise.

And what a fantastic (but sad) close, including Whitey on the Moon. Village of the damned girl was hinting that he would be able to do that, yes?

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovecraft-country-s1-spoilers-within/916355/34 "2020-08-25T04:14:10Z")

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I just noticed that I posted in caps, and it worked. God bless you discord.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovecraft-country-s1-spoilers-within/916355/35 "2020-08-25T04:57:40Z")

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> [@bmoak1](#):
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> Tempted to get HBO just for this.

Me too. But $15/month seems a little extravagant when I have Netflix and Hulu already.

I’m listening if anyone wants to convince me that in addition to Lovecraft Country, a subscription to HBO is worth it because…(please fill in the blank for me).

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovecraft-country-s1-spoilers-within/916355/36 "2020-08-25T06:07:32Z")

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I just finished the next section of the book. The number of deviations has increased, and the TV show has taken on a lot of drama that is not in the original text. some of the changes are significant.

I’d be happy to share more if people are interested, otherwise you might feel free to read the book on your own.

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**Author:** ![BeagleJesus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5daacb/32.png) [@BeagleJesus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeagleJesus)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovecraft-country-s1-spoilers-within/916355/37 "2020-08-25T11:44:53Z")

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The music and the poetry are dope.

My only complaint is that I wish they used Nina Simone’s version of Sinnerman to close the show.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovecraft-country-s1-spoilers-within/916355/38 "2020-08-25T12:12:20Z")

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They threw a HUGE amount of stuff into that second episode. You could get whiplash trying to follow all the sudden shifts. As my daughter remarked, it looked as if they took about three episodes worth of material and stuffed it into one.

What bothered me is that they also seemed to be setting up that house as a major element in the story, and I expected a lot to unravel there. But by the end of the episode it’s like they got tired of that whole thing and were anxious to move on.

We’ve got a zillion questions. Who are the villagers? They look sorta Amish, except the woman with the dogs, who seems kinda Ozark. And the police feel very Southern, right down to the accents. In fact, nothing at all in this – the countryside, the dress, the accents – appears to indicate that this is supposed to be New England. We’re living up here in Massachusetts, and, unlike Lovecraft’s stories, which pretty much exude New England from every pore and carefully scripted accent, there’s nothing at all here that gives you the feeling that Ardham is anywhere near us.

It’s still interesting, though. I’ve been looking for all the oblique and tossaway references, from Algernon Blackwood to Clark Ashton Smith to Aleistair Crowley, and wondering what they’re going to drag in next.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2020, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovecraft-country-s1-spoilers-within/916355/39 "2020-08-27T02:05:01Z")

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I rewatched this just now. It struck me that Atticus had his magic ring on at the end, and was leaning forward to touch Uncle George. It would be a complete copout, but… 🤷‍♂️

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**Post date:** [August 27, 2020, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovecraft-country-s1-spoilers-within/916355/40 "2020-08-27T11:46:40Z")

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Yeah I’m hoping for some deus ex machina here. Courtney B Vance is just too good to cast away after a few episodes and I’m willing to overlook some nonsensical copout story telling if it means we get to keep him. Same goes for Jurnee Smollett and Michael K Williams.

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