# Lovingly dedicated to anti-Masonic tin-foil-hat-or-skullcap-wearers **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 21, 2004, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovingly-dedicated-to-anti-masonic-tin-foil-hat-or-skullcap-wearers/280931 "2004-12-21T04:58:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![MXR90](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MXR90](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MXR90)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovingly-dedicated-to-anti-masonic-tin-foil-hat-or-skullcap-wearers/280931/21 "2004-12-21T11:43:19Z")
> [@Cerri](#): > > Pfft…you had me right up till the part where only men can apply. > > My mom always said that any “boys-only” club was either up to no good, or an excuse to do stupid things where women can’t see and give them shit about it, and that either way, if their wives knew what they were doing, they’d probably be in trouble for doing it. 😉 > > (I’m not sure what she meant, but these days I always picture the “gentlemens’ clubs” from Jeeves and Wooster _grin_) Your mommy is paranoid, learn from it and stray away from sexist remarks and allow men the same respect you would like in return. Now there’s an idea! ---
**Author:** ![MXR90](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MXR90](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MXR90)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovingly-dedicated-to-anti-masonic-tin-foil-hat-or-skullcap-wearers/280931/22 "2004-12-21T11:45:16Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I think that’s the Shiners. > Yeah, like you’re gonna admit to it. :rolleyes: Why admit to anything, and lose the joy of watching you jam your tinfoil hat over your head and spin the little propellar? Not a chance., 😛 ---
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovingly-dedicated-to-anti-masonic-tin-foil-hat-or-skullcap-wearers/280931/23 "2004-12-21T11:58:59Z")
> [@infamousmom](#): > > Nah, the only thing Freemasons do is wear hats that were banned in Turkey a few generations ago and drive silly looking mini cars in holiday parades. Not a threat to the world, those guys. About all they could do is run over you while they’re doing donuts in the intersection. > > Oh, and they still think they’ve got something to hide from the gals. First, you are talking about Shriners. Shriners are Masons but all Masons are not Shriners. As to hiding something from the gals, I wouldn’t touch that one for anything. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovingly-dedicated-to-anti-masonic-tin-foil-hat-or-skullcap-wearers/280931/24 "2004-12-21T12:02:32Z")
Yep, nowadays the Trilateralists get to do all the fun stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovingly-dedicated-to-anti-masonic-tin-foil-hat-or-skullcap-wearers/280931/25 "2004-12-21T13:20:40Z")
The Freemasons are trying to steal my Teddy Bear, Mr. Snuggles. \ ---
**Author:** ![caveman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/caveman/32/7242_2.png) [@caveman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caveman)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovingly-dedicated-to-anti-masonic-tin-foil-hat-or-skullcap-wearers/280931/26 "2004-12-21T14:43:03Z")
So you mean that _From Hell_ was **FICTION**??? :eek: 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Metacom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@Metacom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Metacom)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovingly-dedicated-to-anti-masonic-tin-foil-hat-or-skullcap-wearers/280931/27 "2004-12-21T14:49:11Z")
Be that as it may, you _DO_ keep the metric system down! ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovingly-dedicated-to-anti-masonic-tin-foil-hat-or-skullcap-wearers/280931/28 "2004-12-21T14:58:37Z")
**WeRSauron** , you sneaky fucker! No WAY am I taking off my tinfoil hat just because you say to! Think I’m stoopid? It’s not the Mason’s that are the problem, it’s The Other Organization. yeah, you know the one! And I’m onto you now! :: ponders how to apply additional mustard to tinfoil hat without removing it :: ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovingly-dedicated-to-anti-masonic-tin-foil-hat-or-skullcap-wearers/280931/29 "2004-12-21T15:02:38Z")
The wife of a high ranking Mason once told me that they have sex with goats as part of their lodge rituals. She was a woman utterly devoid of humor, too, and unlikely to make something like this up for sport. I don’t know for sure if they are goat-fuckers, but it does seem to explain why Masonic Lodge buildings here in the US don’t seem to have windows. ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovingly-dedicated-to-anti-masonic-tin-foil-hat-or-skullcap-wearers/280931/30 "2004-12-21T15:10:59Z")
> [@WeRSauron](#): > > I do not think anyone can give the real reason how secrecy came about and why it should remain, but I would suppose that the reason it continues to exist is because of tradition. I had assumed that secrecy came about from its origins. At the start of Freemasonry the Church was the law and controled all wealth. In part, the Freemasons were a reaction to the Church’s big brother operations. Freemasons kept their meetings, memberships, and money secret. To divulge anything would bring the wrath of inquisitions. The Freemasons recognized religion, but banded together to oppose the Church’s role in oppressive government. It seems to me that Freemasons, like many fraternal organizations, maintain secret rituals as a tradition of recognizing the risks their founders took. There are a lot of affiliated organizations - Eastern Star, Order of DeMolay, Job’s Daughters. I had membership in Demolay and found the ritualism to be somewhat silly but I never saw how it was at all malicious. In fact, I recognized it as traditional rituals. But all of these organizations are off limits for Catholics and some Protastants. Not banned by Freemasonry, but forbidden by their church leaders. The reason? Some churches maintain that its congregation should hold no secrets from its leaders (Ex: Catholicism and Confession) and Freemasons must promise to reveal nothing of their secrets to anyone who is not a Freemason. So a Freemason cannot confess any Masonic activities to a priest. And **Scumpup** , I think that you should seek help for your goat problem. You don’t need to project your perversions to others. Bubbadog Who, by the way, never was a Fremason. ---
**Author:** ![GrizzRich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7ba0ec/32.png) [@GrizzRich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrizzRich)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovingly-dedicated-to-anti-masonic-tin-foil-hat-or-skullcap-wearers/280931/31 "2004-12-21T15:54:23Z")
I, like you **BubbaDog** am a Senior DeMolay. But never did petition the Masonic Lodge. Guess their mind-control and indoctrination had no effect on ME! BWAAA-HAAAH-HAAA-HAAAAAAAA… ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovingly-dedicated-to-anti-masonic-tin-foil-hat-or-skullcap-wearers/280931/32 "2004-12-21T15:55:42Z")
Bubbadog, Reading comprehension not your strong suit? I reported what the wife of a Mason told me. Why that should provoke your response, I have no idea; other than perhaps that you are a piece of shit so worthless that real shit would take the time to scrape you off its shoes. Or maybe it’s that, though you took pains to point out your non-Masonic status, you have a relative who is/was a lodge member. The image of your daddy/grandpappy humping a goat was something you found disturbing (or peculiarly exciting) and, thus, you had to make yourself feel better by accusing me of projection. Either way, your opinion is worth what I paid for it. ---
**Author:** ![Greathouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greathouse/32/2992_2.png) [@Greathouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greathouse)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovingly-dedicated-to-anti-masonic-tin-foil-hat-or-skullcap-wearers/280931/33 "2004-12-21T15:57:23Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > Bubbadog, > Reading comprehension not your strong suit? I reported what the wife of a Mason told me. Why that should provoke your response, I have no idea; other than perhaps that you are a piece of shit so worthless that real shit would take the time to scrape you off its shoes. Or maybe it’s that, though you took pains to point out your non-Masonic status, you have a relative who is/was a lodge member. The image of your daddy/grandpappy humping a goat was something you found disturbing (or peculiarly exciting) and, thus, you had to make yourself feel better by accusing me of projection. > Either way, your opinion is worth what I paid for it. Ahhh…The holidays. Can’t you just feel the love? 😉😃 ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovingly-dedicated-to-anti-masonic-tin-foil-hat-or-skullcap-wearers/280931/34 "2004-12-21T16:03:18Z")
As is your opinion **Scumpup** You come up with some “straight shooting woman told me her husband fucks goats and she has no sense of humor” story. HAS NO SENSE OF HUMOR?!?! IF she’s telling the truth her husband is FUCKING a GOAT fer chrisakes! She better have some fucking humor! I’m amazed that you are lashing back at my response. It tells me that you’re such a stupid fucker that you swallowed her bullshit hook, line and sinker. Either that or the Masons wouldn’t let you in and you’re tossing bullshit. In either case, the fact that you like to bring up goat fucking says worlds about you. Do they have clinics for your sickness? ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovingly-dedicated-to-anti-masonic-tin-foil-hat-or-skullcap-wearers/280931/35 "2004-12-21T16:07:01Z")
> [@Greathouse](#): > > Ahhh…The holidays. Can’t you just feel the love? 😉😃 Warm and fuzzy:p That’s fuzzy, not furry, like Scumpup likes it ---
**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovingly-dedicated-to-anti-masonic-tin-foil-hat-or-skullcap-wearers/280931/36 "2004-12-21T16:29:28Z")
> [@BubbaDog](#): > > But all of these organizations are off limits for Catholics and some Protastants. Not banned by Freemasonry, but forbidden by their church leaders. The reason? Some churches maintain that its congregation should hold no secrets from its leaders (Ex: Catholicism and Confession) and Freemasons must promise to reveal nothing of their secrets to anyone who is not a Freemason. So a Freemason cannot confess any Masonic activities to a priest. > > And **Scumpup** , I think that you should seek help for your goat problem. You don’t need to project your perversions to others. > > Bubbadog The off-limits part sounds odd to me. A friend of mine, who is a devout Catholic, offered to sponsor me as a member (if I would have moved back home.) I guess the Catholics are about as centrally organzied about things as the Freemasons. And we have our own goat-themed rites here at SDMB, so lighten up. None of you complained when you had to, well, you know… ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovingly-dedicated-to-anti-masonic-tin-foil-hat-or-skullcap-wearers/280931/37 "2004-12-21T16:38:30Z")
> [@](#): > > That’s fuzzy, not furry, like Scumpup likes it Just can’t let go of it, hey? That image of grandpa burned into your mind’s eye? Still trying to make it somehow my fault that you apparently come from a family of goatfuckers? Well, 'tis the season and it costs me nothing to let you try to process through such a shocking revelation about your own family. Tell you what, though, if they serve cabrito where you live, I’d avoid it if I were you. You wouldn’t want to end up eating a relative’s “special friend” by mistake. ---
**Author:** ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovingly-dedicated-to-anti-masonic-tin-foil-hat-or-skullcap-wearers/280931/38 "2004-12-21T16:43:24Z")
**Scumpup** , you’re pathetic. Quit while you’re behind. Since we’re talking about Freemasonry, I’d like to recommend the movie _The Man Who Would Be King_ (Sean Connery, Michael Caine) to all who have not seen it. It’s excellent. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovingly-dedicated-to-anti-masonic-tin-foil-hat-or-skullcap-wearers/280931/39 "2004-12-21T16:47:19Z")
Dammit, _I_ never did nothing with no goats when I signed up. THAT’S why I’m not in the inner sacred circle… **Scumpup** , I read your post the same as **Bubba**. I think you got your leg good and thoroughly pulled by this “humorless” woman. And you might look into calming down a little, too. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovingly-dedicated-to-anti-masonic-tin-foil-hat-or-skullcap-wearers/280931/40 "2004-12-21T16:49:49Z")
Neuroman, I’ve looked back over my posts, and just as I suspected, I didn’t requisition a random asshole to jump into my little discussion with Bubbagoat. So, now that you’ve made yourself feel important with that thoughtful post, you can jump back out again. The woman said what she said. Her personality was what it was. You and Bubba can turn all the venom on me that you like, and those facts won’t change. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovingly-dedicated-to-anti-masonic-tin-foil-hat-or-skullcap-wearers/280931.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovingly-dedicated-to-anti-masonic-tin-foil-hat-or-skullcap-wearers/280931.md?page=3)