# Lovitz Beats Dick **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 17, 2007, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovitz-beats-dick/412134 "2007-07-17T14:59:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2007, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovitz-beats-dick/412134/21 "2007-07-17T17:55:28Z")
The thing about Lovitz is that he’s one of those comedians who never seem to go out of character, even when they’re not performing. In nearly two decades, I’ve never had a hint on who the real Jon Lovitz is. Well, it seems now that the real Jon Lovitz is a bad ass mother fucker. Who knew? ---
**Author:** ![Borborygmi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/borborygmi/32/217_2.png) [@Borborygmi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Borborygmi)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2007, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovitz-beats-dick/412134/22 "2007-07-17T17:56:59Z")
[QUOTE=fusoya] man, half a page and I’m the first one to comment on the title of this thread? [/QUOTE] You thought it should have been “Lovitz gives Dick a Licking”? ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2007, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovitz-beats-dick/412134/23 "2007-07-17T17:58:34Z")
[QUOTE=fusoya] man, half a page and I’m the first one to comment on the title of this thread? [/QUOTE] I want to comment on the title, too, before the thread gets off the first page. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2007, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovitz-beats-dick/412134/24 "2007-07-17T18:57:05Z")
[QUOTE=Troy McClure SF] Fair enough. “Joe” on _Newsradio_ was funny enough, but by the time I discovered the show, Joe Rogan was that jackass from Fear Factor who thinks the moon landing was faked ([arguing with our own Bad Astronomer](http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2007/02/26/joe-rogan-me-and-penn-and-the-moon-hoax-take-iii/)). Of course, since the Carlos Mencia thing and his Paris Hilton blog entry, I do have more respect for him, as bizarre as that feels. [/QUOTE] I missed the Paris Hilton blog entry. Anyway, I find the character Joe a lot more likable than the actor Joe. However, you need to wonder if he tried to base his public persona on the Joe character, since the show was so popular, but instead took it too far. The other possibility, of course, being that Joe’s character was based on the real him - the conspiracy nut part most particularly. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2007, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovitz-beats-dick/412134/25 "2007-07-17T18:57:07Z")
And here I thought Jon Lovitz had made some sort of assault on the Vice-President. But this is good, too. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2007, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovitz-beats-dick/412134/26 "2007-07-17T19:02:22Z")
Oh, and to add to the fun of Alternative Thread Titles… Lovitz Beats Dick Limp Little Dick Beaten By Big Jon -Joe ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2007, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovitz-beats-dick/412134/27 "2007-07-17T19:04:25Z")
That’s the ticket, Jon. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2007, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovitz-beats-dick/412134/28 "2007-07-17T19:04:45Z")
Never fight a Jew over just desserts. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2007, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovitz-beats-dick/412134/29 "2007-07-17T19:06:39Z")
[QUOTE=Borborygmi] You thought it should have been “Lovitz gives Dick a Licking”? [/QUOTE] Better than “Lovitz Takes Dick.” ---
**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2007, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovitz-beats-dick/412134/30 "2007-07-17T19:12:39Z")
Lovitz slaps Dick around. Lovitz gives Dick a good seeing to. Lovitz gets a bit rough with Dick, claims ‘It felt good, I should have done that years ago.’ I always liked Lovitz. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2007, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovitz-beats-dick/412134/31 "2007-07-17T19:14:04Z")
[QUOTE=Borborygmi] You thought it should have been “Lovitz gives Dick a Licking”? [/QUOTE] Or pithier…Lovitz Licks Dick. ---
**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2007, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovitz-beats-dick/412134/32 "2007-07-17T19:19:56Z")
That’s a really bizarre story. I get Lovitz being pissed at Andy Dick, but I don’t get him blaming Andy (indirectly) for Phil Hartman’s death. Are we supposed to believe that was the first time Brynn Hartman had been at a party with cocaine in 10 years? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2007, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovitz-beats-dick/412134/33 "2007-07-17T19:21:48Z")
[QUOTE=Indygrrl] Are we supposed to believe that was the first time Brynn Hartman had been at a party with cocaine in 10 years? [/QUOTE] The story says he “gave” her the cocaine, as opposed to doing it in her presence, but it’s probably not wise to parse a gossip item that closely. ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2007, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovitz-beats-dick/412134/34 "2007-07-17T20:16:39Z")
[QUOTE=Merijeek] I missed the Paris Hilton blog entry. [/QUOTE] > **[HOKI69 — Teitan Supply, Marketplace Alat Tato Indonesia](https://teitantattoo.com/archives/156)** > > Kode jarum diterjemahkan penuh, harga per box tertera, stok apa adanya. Login, daftar & link alternatif HOKI69. ---
**Author:** ![Renob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8c91f0/32.png) [@Renob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Renob)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2007, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovitz-beats-dick/412134/35 "2007-07-17T20:23:49Z")
[QUOTE=Indygrrl] That’s a really bizarre story. I get Lovitz being pissed at Andy Dick, but I don’t get him blaming Andy (indirectly) for Phil Hartman’s death. Are we supposed to believe that was the first time Brynn Hartman had been at a party with cocaine in 10 years? [/QUOTE] My wife used to work with the sibling of one of the actors from _NewsRadio_, and that person said the same thing. He said that Andy Dick gave Brynn Hartman coke after Brynn had been off it for a while. Apparently Brynn was high when she shot Phil. So by the account I heard a few years ago (which seems to be backed up by Lovitz), Andy Dick contributed at least a little bit to the murder. Of course, I heard this a few people removed from the source, but it jives with the Page Six article. ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2007, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovitz-beats-dick/412134/36 "2007-07-17T20:46:05Z")
You just can’t beat this story. Why? You can’t beat a sore Dick! ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2007, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovitz-beats-dick/412134/37 "2007-07-17T21:05:59Z")
“I would have helped you clean your garage, but I was busy beating the crap out of Andy Dick with my wife…Morgan Fairchild!” ---
**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2007, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovitz-beats-dick/412134/38 "2007-07-17T21:28:51Z")
[QUOTE=Renob] My wife used to work with the sibling of one of the actors from _NewsRadio_, and that person said the same thing. He said that Andy Dick gave Brynn Hartman coke after Brynn had been off it for a while. Apparently Brynn was high when she shot Phil. So by the account I heard a few years ago (which seems to be backed up by Lovitz), Andy Dick contributed at least a little bit to the murder. Of course, I heard this a few people removed from the source, but it jives with the Page Six article. [/QUOTE] Well, that might be true, but that wasn’t what I was saying. So what if Andy Dick offered her a line? Had she not been to any Hollywood parties where cocaine was present in her 10 years of sobriety? Just because you offer someone a drug doesn’t mean you are responsible for their behavior once they take it. Assuming the story is true, Andy Dick was very minimally guilty in any regard to the Phil Hartman murder. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2007, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovitz-beats-dick/412134/39 "2007-07-17T21:47:36Z")
After having read the story, I have to say it sounds like an unjustified, criminal battery by Lovitz. To sum up the events as described in the article: Andy Dick gives some blow to Phil Hartman’s wife after she had been sober for ten years Six months later, she kills Hartman. Lovitz is cast to refill Hartman’s spot on _Newsradio_. He tells Dick, “I wouldn’t be here if you hadn’t given Brynn that cocaine.” The rest of it in Lovitz’s own words: > [@](#): > > Last year, Lovitz related, a drunken Dick strolled up to his table at Ago in West Hollywood, rudely downed his guests’ peach liqueur drinks, and “looked at me and said, ‘I put the “Phil Hartman hex” on you - you’re the next one to die.’ I said, ‘What did you say?’ and he repeated it. I wanted to punch his face in, but I don’t hit women.” > > When the two ran into each other at the Laugh Factory last Wednesday, "I wanted him to say he was sorry for the ‘Phil Hartman hex,’ " Lovitz told us. "First he says, ‘I don’t remember saying that.’ Then he leans in and says, ‘You know why I said it? Because you said I killed Phil Hartman.’ Which I never said. Then he asked me to be in his new movie. > > “I grabbed him by the shirt and leaned him over and said, ‘I don’t want to be in your movie! I don’t want to be in your life!’ I pushed him against the rail. Then I pushed him again really hard. A security guard broke it up. I’m not proud of it . . . but he’s a disgusting human being.” According to the story, Lovitz picked Dick up “by the head” and repeatedly smashed him into a bar, bloodying Dick’s nose in the process. Now what did Dick say or do that justified a physical assault? Lovitz DID basically accuse him of killing Phil Hartman, like Dick could have possible predicted what his wife would do or as if there is any real reason to connect the murder to Dick giving her some coke a few months earlier. Andy dick and Phil Hartman were close friends and Dick has said for years that he was devastated by the murder. Lovitz accusing him of causing the murder was very uncool. I can’t see anything that justifies the assault here and I think Andy Dick was totally justified in being offended by Lovitz’s accusation. Nice little homophobic dig by Lovitz, by the way..“I don’t hit women.” Very adult. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2007, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovitz-beats-dick/412134/40 "2007-07-17T21:53:24Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] Now what did Dick say or do that justified a physical assault? [/QUOTE] Clearly, you haven’t seen his movies. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovitz-beats-dick/412134.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lovitz-beats-dick/412134.md?page=3)