# "Low Winter Sun" premiers this week on AMC \[OPEN SPOILERS\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 6, 2013, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/low-winter-sun-premiers-this-week-on-amc-open-spoilers/665523 "2013-08-06T19:47:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2013, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/low-winter-sun-premiers-this-week-on-amc-open-spoilers/665523/41 "2013-09-03T19:31:13Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > We made it through the first four episodes, but I think that’s going to be it. These moody, broody cop dramas have been all the rage, but I think I’ve had my quota. . Yeah, dark & Gritty is passé. I am tired of it. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/low-winter-sun-premiers-this-week-on-amc-open-spoilers/665523/42 "2013-09-11T08:18:03Z")
It looks like I was on the right track about Billy and Anton. Agnew wanted the case to go cold and Geddes wanted to pin it on someone. So now they get to pin it on some fictitious ‘Chaldean’ and solve 3 murders with the stroke of a mouse. I was however a little lost near the end with Agnew highlighting McCann’s and Geddes signatures on the incident reports of suicides. I assume those were bogus reports but I didn’t rewind to try to figure out exactly what the problem was. I also didn’t get why the protection at the blind pig (Poppa T?) had an issue with Damon(?) not telling him about the Skelos association. Wasn’t that the first thing out of his mouth when he went to Rev. Lowdown? ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/low-winter-sun-premiers-this-week-on-amc-open-spoilers/665523/43 "2013-11-26T02:20:23Z")
Tangentially related. It looks like AMC isn’t too upset with the show runner for LWS since they’re giving him [another pilot.](http://www.adweek.com/news/television/amc-gives-low-winter-sun-writer-another-pilot-order-knifeman-154103) > [@](#): > > Despite disappointing ratings and rumors of impending cancelation for AMC’s Low Winter Sun, showrunner Rolin Jones is getting another pilot order from the network, this one a little less dour, in keeping with Jones’ roots on Showtime dramedy The United States of Tara. > > Knifeman, from Jones (who has a first-look deal with AMC), follows John Tattersal, an unlicensed surgeon who operates, literally and figuratively, out of his home. The show is based on Wendy Moore’s biography of a similar figure, John Hunter, called The Knife Man: Blood, Body Snatching and the Birth of Modern Surgery. AMC traditionally only announces its pilot orders, though it does have an option on oft-developed DC Comics property Preacher, too. ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2013, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/low-winter-sun-premiers-this-week-on-amc-open-spoilers/665523/44 "2013-12-07T01:42:24Z")
D’ohhhhh. [A moan of disappointment](http://edition.cnn.com/2013/12/06/showbiz/tv/low-winter-sun-canceled-ew/) goes up from the crowd as the cancellation notice for Low Winter Sun quietly slips into the abyss of the Friday news cycle. But it’s not all _ahem_ ‘bad’ news > [@](#): > > Meanwhile, AMC has at least five dramas on tap for 2014: In addition to the return of “Mad Men,” “The Walking Dead” and “Hell on Wheels,” the network will introduce Revolutionary War drama “Turn,” 1980s computer biz drama “Halt and Catch Fire” and possibly the Breaking Bad spin-off “Better Call Saul.” ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2013, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/low-winter-sun-premiers-this-week-on-amc-open-spoilers/665523/45 "2013-12-07T05:27:04Z")
**deltasigma** , I feel your pain. A few shows I really liked were cancelled – Kidnapped, Terriers, and that one where Jeff Goldblum solved crimes with the help of the ghosts of the victims. Heck, there was one several years ago that only lasted two episodes. All I remember is two lawyers, or maybe they were private detectives – very quirky and funny. Oh, and that one with Jeremy Renner as a cop. Renner went on to bigger and better things but the show didn’t get a full season. Renner’s character had a buddy with premonitions of death. I don’t remember if they came true or not. ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2013, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/low-winter-sun-premiers-this-week-on-amc-open-spoilers/665523/46 "2013-12-07T05:57:12Z")
Thanks sweetie 🙂 :). As I try to watch things more critically, I have to admit that it had its problems. As much as I liked Mark Strong’s character, it really didn’t add up a lot of the time and neither did that of Lennie James or even the story for that matter. [le sigh] I’ve already mentioned this, but I so love dark, dreary, ponderous ambiance that I really wanted to love the show and wanted to see it thrive. And this had all of the elements of video Nirvana for me. I don’t care if there’s no plot or if it has more holes than my brain on PCP. Just let me wallow for 42 minutes in soul crushing hopelessness and despair and I’m yours. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2013, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/low-winter-sun-premiers-this-week-on-amc-open-spoilers/665523/47 "2013-12-07T16:13:34Z")
> [@deltasigma](#): > > Just let me wallow for 42 minutes in soul crushing hopelessness and despair and I’m yours. Hmmm. Do you get the Sundance channel? It has **The Returned** , and **Rectified** and they fit that description. Especially **The Returned**. I had to bail after four episodes – it really IS soul crushing. ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2013, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/low-winter-sun-premiers-this-week-on-amc-open-spoilers/665523/48 "2013-12-07T18:44:11Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > Hmmm. Do you get the Sundance channel? It has **The Returned** , and **Rectified** and they fit that description. > > Especially **The Returned**. I had to bail after four episodes – it really IS soul crushing. Thank you :). I have both in my queue. I just recently heard about The Returned and only got that one with some reluctance since it’s subbed, but I couldn’t pass it up. Rectal-fied is one that I really enjoy too. I watched the whole of the second season on Sundance and now need to see season one. I might actually rewatch season two to pick up whatever references I missed - and I almost never re-watch tv series. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/low-winter-sun-premiers-this-week-on-amc-open-spoilers/665523/49 "2013-12-07T19:01:08Z")
There is a second season of **Rectified**? Shit. How did I miss that? ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2013, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/low-winter-sun-premiers-this-week-on-amc-open-spoilers/665523/50 "2013-12-07T19:07:43Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > There is a second season of **Rectified**? Shit. How did I miss that? Never mind. I just checked. There were so many references to what happened before that I just assumed that there must have been. There’s only one so far. D’oh. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2013, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/low-winter-sun-premiers-this-week-on-amc-open-spoilers/665523/51 "2013-12-07T19:46:15Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > Oh, and that one with Jeremy Renner as a cop. Renner went on to bigger and better things but the show didn’t get a full season. Renner’s character had a buddy with premonitions of death. I don’t remember if they came true or not. _The Unusuals_. Harold Perrinneau (sp?) had the visions. He was partnered with Adam Goldberg if I remember correctly. The visions didn’t come true. Goldberg was next on to NYC22, which aired at 10 on Saturday nights, a time it was sure to catch a following. Cop shows I like tend to die young. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2013, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/low-winter-sun-premiers-this-week-on-amc-open-spoilers/665523/52 "2013-12-07T20:54:52Z")
> [@deltasigma](#): > > Never mind. I just checked. There were so many references to what happened before that I just assumed that there must have been. There’s only one so far. D’oh. :smack: Good to know. I really don’t want to miss this show. **D\_Odds** , seems like if both of us were watching, that should have been enough to keep it on. But nooooooooooooo. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/low-winter-sun-premiers-this-week-on-amc-open-spoilers/665523.md?page=2)