# LSAT Games --- Help? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [September 4, 2003, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lsat-games-help/199470 "2003-09-04T04:49:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Homer\_J.Simpson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a698b9/32.png) [@Homer\_J.Simpson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homer_J.Simpson)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2003, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lsat-games-help/199470/1 "2003-09-04T04:49:41Z")
I’m having problems with the games (analytical logic) section of the LSAT. I can’t seem to get more than 12-14 of this section correct which is keeping my score in the mid 160’s. While this score is probably good enough to get into a lot of the schools I considering (U of IL, U of Iowa, wtc.) I really want to improve my score. Does anybody have any good tips? Anybody use any good guides? Do you think [this book](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/097212960X/qid=1062650591/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/104-3716020-7663102) would help? ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2003, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lsat-games-help/199470/2 "2003-09-04T12:39:02Z")
Yeah, that book looks right on the money, although I haven’t read it or looked through it personally. The “games” section of the LSAT is basically a bunch of logic problems. If you want even more practice, Dell makes several books of logic problems; unfortunately, it seems that they’re all out of print. Hit the puzzle sections of some local bookstores, perhaps you can find some. The listing for the first [Dell Book of Logic Problems](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0440518911/qid=1062679289/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/002-5662394-5455254?v=glance&s=books&n=507846) on Amazon has some sample pages you can check out. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2003, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lsat-games-help/199470/3 "2003-09-04T18:14:58Z")
My daughter is getting ready to take this, so I got the Princeton Review guide. I found this reasonable, but I also do a lot of logic problems. I’m not sure I’d recommend depending too much on doing traditional logic problems, since they are a bit different from the LSAT ones. The LSAT one has a lot of “what if” type questions, which traditional books don’t have. They are also easier, since they need to be completed in a short time, while the complicated logic problems will take a bit longer. So, while I haven’t looked at the book you linked to, I think you should definitely go with that rather than with a logic puzzle book. Do you have any specific problems, or do you just not get some of the questions? ---
**Author:** ![blainer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a698b9/32.png) [@blainer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blainer)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2003, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lsat-games-help/199470/4 "2003-09-04T19:24:14Z")
Are you still in college? If you are, audit or transfer into an Intro to Logic class, posthaste! Nothing will help you more. ---
**Author:** ![NicePete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ee7513/32.png) [@NicePete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NicePete)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2003, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lsat-games-help/199470/5 "2003-09-04T19:46:37Z")
The Princeton Review book helped me greatly. I got an 800 on the analytical reasoning section of the GRE last year after spending much time practicing games using TPR’s techniques. Two keys: – make good charts (TPR is very helpful in this area) – don’t forget what’s being asked (You don’t necessarily have to fill in every blank to answer the question. Stop once you’ve gotten the answer you need.) ---
**Author:** ![Nightsong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nightsong/32/3083_2.png) [@Nightsong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nightsong)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2003, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lsat-games-help/199470/6 "2003-09-04T21:41:13Z")
Dell still prints the logic problems, in magazine format. Wal-Mart, Borders, Barnes and Noble, or any place that carries a semi-decent selection of magazines should have them. They also have more than just ‘traditional’ logic problems: math problems, etc., etc. And I’d second the possibility of **blainer** ’s reccomendation of a logic course, probably one with more of a Philosophical base rather than a Mathmatical. (So you’re looking at words more than symbols, which should be more helpful.) * * * \<\< That’s me in a nutshell. (Will somebody please help me get out!) \>\>