# Lucas says, "Oh, Star Wars was always about promoting democracy" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 15, 2005, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucas-says-oh-star-wars-was-always-about-promoting-democracy/303989 "2005-05-15T23:49:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucas-says-oh-star-wars-was-always-about-promoting-democracy/303989/41 "2005-05-17T16:29:13Z")
> [@Diceman](#): > > Give Darth a break. He grew up in slavery on Tattooine, and his mother was killed (and probably gang-raped) there. I find it perfectly reasonable that Vader didn’t want to go down there again in _A New Hope_. I owe **vibrotronica** an apology, I see. **Diceman,** go ahead and scroll up to my previous post. ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucas-says-oh-star-wars-was-always-about-promoting-democracy/303989/42 "2005-05-17T16:46:00Z")
> [@Nonsuch](#): > > Star Wars die-hards, OTOH, seem intent on explaining away every niggling little fault, apologizing for every shortcoming and actually trying to reconcile the shifting web of rationalizations George Lucas has offered for a work that is often deeply inconsistent and not terribly well thought out. Heh. Funny stuff. Star Wars fans have to do some rationalization to overcome Lucas’ shortcomings, but when it comes to explaining away plot holes and outright contradictions, nobody else is even in the same league as Trekkies 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucas-says-oh-star-wars-was-always-about-promoting-democracy/303989/43 "2005-05-17T17:48:00Z")
Now hold on just a minute. I bet I can explain away any plot holes in the recent episodes of Doctor Who much better then any Trekkie ever could! ---
**Author:** ![spectrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@spectrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spectrum)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucas-says-oh-star-wars-was-always-about-promoting-democracy/303989/44 "2005-05-17T19:07:37Z")
> [@Diceman](#): > > Give Darth a break. He grew up in slavery on Tattooine, and his mother was killed (and probably gang-raped) there. I find it perfectly reasonable that Vader didn’t want to go down there again in _A New Hope_. > Also, Leia is a princess because she was adopted into Alderaan’s royal family. Her title has nothing to do with Naboo or Queen Amidala. Plus, he hates sand. ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucas-says-oh-star-wars-was-always-about-promoting-democracy/303989/45 "2005-05-17T19:41:04Z")
Actually, Wars lovers just don’t care that much about plot holes. Of course they’re there. I personally hear George may have injected some politics into Ep 3 in a ery small way and don’t like. The point is, we don’t care. Sure, it’s got plot holes. So what? It’s got corny acting. Big deal. I like Star Wars. People keep attacking it like their on a proselytizing mission to make me hate it. They don’t get the fact that I don’t really give a rat’s patootie for their opinion. Get it? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucas-says-oh-star-wars-was-always-about-promoting-democracy/303989.md?page=2)