# Lucifer, Season 2 (2016-2017)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-2-2016-2017/766511>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 21, 2016, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-2-2016-2017/766511 "2016-09-21T15:52:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-2-2016-2017/766511/81 "2017-01-18T12:33:02Z")

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I think of Lucifer’s “reveals” being not so much about his physical appearance but about somehow mentally making them realize the truth of who he is.

On a different note, have there been clues dropped in the past about Lucifer being bisexual? I always saw him as rather aggressively hetero.

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**Author:** ![Neverending\_Elbow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e274bd/32.png) [@Neverending\_Elbow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neverending_Elbow)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-2-2016-2017/766511/82 "2017-01-18T13:21:26Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> On a different note, have there been clues dropped in the past about Lucifer being bisexual? I always saw him as rather aggressively hetero.

In the very first episode he was in a devil’s threesome. 🙂

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-2-2016-2017/766511/83 "2017-01-18T13:38:09Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> On a different note, have there been clues dropped in the past about Lucifer being bisexual? I always saw him as rather aggressively hetero.

A celestial being has sexuality? I thought that was Greek mythology.😛

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-2-2016-2017/766511/84 "2017-01-24T06:21:23Z")

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Well, the personal stuff was good and juicy tonight, but the police plot had enough holes in it to drive trucks through. Such as:

- How many college labs have bulletproof glass?
- How did they do all the checking around they did and still have time to drive to Pasadena from L.A. in 60 minutes?
- How could the professor, who’s apparently smart enough to hack someone else’s account and send untraceable emails almost instantly after receiving the note from Chloe, not be smart enough to do a backup on his dissertation file so he doesn’t have to worry about losing his laptop in a car accident?

I’d also like to know how Doctor Doofus managed to get hold of the vials from last week’s episode, but that’s not a plot hole (yet) because I’m assuming it will be revealed next episode.

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**Author:** ![Tapiotar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@Tapiotar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapiotar)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-2-2016-2017/766511/85 "2017-01-24T14:04:20Z")

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Yes, the writing has gotten stupid enough, and the family dynamics so Greek god-like insane, I’ve been ready to give up on the show. Until now, when I just read that Timothy Omundson is going to play God. God Johnson. I love Timothy Omundson, and his beard is certainly god-like, so I’m in.

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-2-2016-2017/766511/86 "2017-01-24T14:30:18Z")

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The show continues to provide some awesome amusement! I particularly enjoyed seeing Charlotte seeking advice (or, more accurately, attempting to manipulate) Linda. Fun scene! And I continue to be hopelessly in lust with Mazikeen…

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-2-2016-2017/766511/87 "2017-01-24T14:36:06Z")

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> [@Tapiotar](#):
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> Yes, the writing has gotten stupid enough, and the family dynamics so Greek god-like insane, I’ve been ready to give up on the show. Until now, when I just read that Timothy Omundson is going to play God. God Johnson. I love Timothy Omundson, and his beard is certainly god-like, so I’m in.

I just went to the IMDB to look him up. Holy Crap! I gotta agree with you about that beard – it just screams “deity”! Truly impressive. Great casting choice!

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**Author:** ![yellowjacketcoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4bbf92/32.png) [@yellowjacketcoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowjacketcoder)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-2-2016-2017/766511/88 "2017-01-24T15:26:33Z")

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I think Linda’s “Now I see the resemblance” line was just perfect.

Also Lucifer with the comical devil horns was hilarious also.

But other than that, if I wanted to watch Saw I would have done that instead. Bit of a grim episode.

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**Author:** ![Tapiotar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@Tapiotar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapiotar)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-2-2016-2017/766511/89 "2017-01-24T15:29:53Z")

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> [@gytalf2000](#):
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> The show continues to provide some awesome amusement! I particularly enjoyed seeing Charlotte seeking advice (or, more accurately, attempting to manipulate) Linda. Fun scene! And I continue to be hopelessly in lust with Mazikeen…

Chloe’s dream was pretty funny, too. Lucifer sprouting horns, and calling them love handles…that was a hoot.

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-2-2016-2017/766511/90 "2017-01-24T15:47:29Z")

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> [@Tapiotar](#):
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> Chloe’s dream was pretty funny, too. Lucifer sprouting horns, and calling them love handles…that was a hoot.

Yeah, that was great, as well. I love this show!

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-2-2016-2017/766511/91 "2017-01-24T17:59:37Z")

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> [@gytalf2000](#):
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> I just went to the IMDB to look him up. Holy Crap! I gotta agree with you about that beard – it just screams “deity”! Truly impressive. Great casting choice!

Really happy King Richard has found a new job.

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**Author:** ![p4poetic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed8c4c/32.png) [@p4poetic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/p4poetic)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-2-2016-2017/766511/92 "2017-01-25T04:49:48Z")

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> [@Tapiotar](#):
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> Yes, the writing has gotten stupid enough, and the family dynamics so Greek god-like insane, I’ve been ready to give up on the show. Until now, when I just read that Timothy Omundson is going to play God. God Johnson. I love Timothy Omundson, and his beard is certainly god-like, so I’m in.

Funny, he played a Jesus like character on Xena.

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**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-2-2016-2017/766511/93 "2017-01-25T22:38:16Z")

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> [@Tapiotar](#):
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> Chloe’s dream was pretty funny, too. Lucifer sprouting horns, and calling them love handles…that was a hoot.

Two things about that (sorry I’ve missed some episodes), 1) does Chole really believe he’s the devil? Has she seen him like the Therapist did? and 2) Why did her dream-Lucifer have the scars from the wing-removal and his horns? Had she seen him shirtless in previous episode?

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-2-2016-2017/766511/94 "2017-01-25T23:00:05Z")

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> [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](#):
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> Two things about that (sorry I’ve missed some episodes), 1) does Chole really believe he’s the devil? Has she seen him like the Therapist did? and 2) Why did her dream-Lucifer have the scars from the wing-removal and his horns? Had she seen him shirtless in previous episode?

Love the poster name/post combo here - shouldn’t you know? 🙂

1. No, she hasn’t seen him as the Devil yet, but he’s told her he is on numerous occasions.
2. She has seen the scars before - she asked him about them, and he told her they were from cutting off his wings. She didn’t believe him, of course, but she’s seen them.

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-2-2016-2017/766511/95 "2017-01-31T13:58:17Z")

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Hey, what did everyone think of last night’s episode, “A Good Day To Die”?

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**Author:** ![Tapiotar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@Tapiotar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapiotar)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-2-2016-2017/766511/96 "2017-01-31T14:15:55Z")

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Funny bits: Both Maze and Linda are backing out on killing Lucifer, so he grabs the paddles and  
shocks himself. Maze grabbing the paddles and killing Lucifer’s Mom mid-sentence.

The version of Hell shown makes sense. Hell comes from your own mind. But then, where do demons as torturers come into it?

Glad that Lucifer’s Mom turned out to have at least one good quality. Lucifer himself has come a long way on his road to redemption. Glad Amenadiel stepped up. D.B. Woodside has the most beautiful eyes…

Why the instant assumption that the creation of Chloe was an attempt at manipulation, rather than a gift?

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-2-2016-2017/766511/97 "2017-01-31T15:07:23Z")

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> [@Tapiotar](#):
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> Funny bits: Both Maze and Linda are backing out on killing Lucifer, so he grabs the paddles and  
> shocks himself. Maze grabbing the paddles and killing Lucifer’s Mom mid-sentence.
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> The version of Hell shown makes sense. Hell comes from your own mind. But then, where do demons as torturers come into it?
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> Glad that Lucifer’s Mom turned out to have at least one good quality. Lucifer himself has come a long way on his road to redemption. Glad Amenadiel stepped up. D.B. Woodside has the most beautiful eyes…
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> Why the instant assumption that the creation of Chloe was an attempt at manipulation, rather than a gift?

Great scenes! I also enjoyed Amenadiel’s interaction with Trixie. So sweet!

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**Author:** ![yellowjacketcoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4bbf92/32.png) [@yellowjacketcoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowjacketcoder)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-2-2016-2017/766511/98 "2017-01-31T16:01:52Z")

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> [@Tapiotar](#):
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> The version of Hell shown makes sense. Hell comes from your own mind. But then, where do demons as torturers come into it?

They are probably there to help the process along. Consider the torture we’ve seen: Now the bad doctor knows he holds the keys to his jail cell, but he doesn’t have the ability to open the lock. Now he knows he’s in hell, rather than just wondering what the hell is going on. Now he’s had the hope of being freed shattered as Lucifer walked away. He’s much worse off now.

> [@Tapiotar](#):
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> Why the instant assumption that the creation of Chloe was an attempt at manipulation, rather than a gift?

Lucifer’s Dad is the kingpin of “mysterious ways” and “has a plan” and “when you’ve done it right, people won’t be sure you’ve done anything at all”

Lucifer himself is probably under some PTSD over being lord of hell for millennia and reverts back to the blame game every time something seems off.

When you hate someone and have a huge streak of narcissism, you can start assuming everything they do is some way to get back at you. Even if in this case it’s a chance for reconciliation.

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-2-2016-2017/766511/99 "2017-01-31T16:25:02Z")

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Great episode. Nice to see Uriel back, and Lucifer’s own version of Hell. It’s going to be hard to wait for May to find out what happens, though. I called it that he’d be gone when Chloe came to see him, but I wonder where he went.

I thought this was where we’d get rid of Mum–I thought she was a short-term guest star, not a regular. Maybe her arc will finish in this season.

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-2-2016-2017/766511/100 "2017-01-31T18:22:05Z")

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I missed something – Lucy went to hell to get tge recipe for the antidote, but at the same time, Ella and Douche 🙂 were trying to get a specific ingrediant from Ella’s brother (i.e. it looked like they didn’t have the recipe yet).

I’m probably misremembering.

Brian

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