# Lucifer, Season Three

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 2, 2017, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818 "2017-10-02T18:07:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/81 "2017-11-22T02:17:53Z")

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> [@Tapiotar](#):
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> I’m also getting tired of people referring to Dan as handsome. I find him very unattractive and meh.

Same here, especially when compared to Lucifer. I know good-looking is relative (and Dan does have some killer abs!) but…yeah. No contest.

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/82 "2017-11-22T13:31:56Z")

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> [@Tapiotar](#):
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> But i liked last week’s episode better, the one with Linda’s ex-husband. That was some good writing.

I was busy with other matters, and have not yet finished that episode. Need to watch it over the long weekend!

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/83 "2017-11-22T13:47:40Z")

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I adore Linda, Rachael Harris just makes me laugh. I want to see her integrated more, and I think that will start to happen this season.

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/84 "2017-11-22T15:08:44Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> I adore Linda, Rachael Harris just makes me laugh. I want to see her integrated more, and I think that will start to happen this season.

she is a great comedic actress.

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/85 "2017-12-04T21:00:46Z")

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Here is a reminder about tonight’s episode :

Lucifer, Season Three, Episode Nine (December 4, 2017) – "The Sinnerman "

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/86 "2017-12-05T05:15:54Z")

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> [@gytalf2000](#):
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> Here is a reminder about tonight’s episode :
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> Lucifer, Season Three, Episode Nine (December 4, 2017) – "The Sinnerman "

Nice to see them get back to the main story.

I don’t think that’s really the Sinnerman, though. They caught him far too easily. I wonder who he’s working for.

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/87 "2017-12-05T11:36:55Z")

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I thought he grabbed the weapon to escape, I did not see him gouging out his eyes :eek:

So the blind are immune to Lucifer’s power?

Brian

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/88 "2017-12-05T14:40:48Z")

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> [@N9IWP](#):
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> I thought he grabbed the weapon to escape, I did not see him gouging out his eyes :eek:
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> So the blind are immune to Lucifer’s power?
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> Brian

Yeah, the "blind’ thing doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me. Also, I have a feeling that if Lucifer was angry and determined enough, he could have removed himself from that vault with brute force. As long as Chloe wasn’t around, that is…

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/89 "2017-12-05T14:53:27Z")

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> [@N9IWP](#):
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> I thought he grabbed the weapon to escape, I did not see him gouging out his eyes :eek:
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> So the blind are immune to Lucifer’s power?
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> Brian

Eyes are the window to the soul, and all that.

And of course, he’s not just blind - he actually doesn’t have eyeballs anymore. That could figure into it also.

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**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2017, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/90 "2017-12-06T18:54:45Z")

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I don’t think it’s the Sinnerman either. And Lucifer probably could have gotten out of the vault. Seems like the door would have been the weakest part from what was shown. When Maze found Lucifer in there I was really afraid she was going to close the door behind her and we would wind up with the old trope of 2 characters locked in a room to hash their differences out. But no, I am almost always pleased with the writing on Lucifer.

I’m liking Tricia Helfer more now that she isn’t the bumbling crazy mother of Lucifer. Still don’t see a lot of point in her character though.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2017, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/91 "2017-12-06T18:58:33Z")

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> [@control-z](#):
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> I’m liking Tricia Helfer more now that she isn’t the bumbling crazy mother of Lucifer. Still don’t see a lot of point in her character though.

The character is better, but she adds nothing to the show and shouldn’t be a main character, but used occasionally. The producer must really like her or something.

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2017, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/92 "2017-12-06T19:08:56Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> The character is better, but she adds nothing to the show and shouldn’t be a main character, but used occasionally. The producer must really like her or something.

Well, if that’s true, ya can’t blame him. She’s gorgeous, and a good actress, to boot. The only problem is that the others are convinced that she was Lucifer’s stepmom. I don’t know how the writers are going to handle that. Or maybe they won’t; it might be best if they just never addressed the issue again. I dunno…

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2017, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/93 "2017-12-06T19:54:01Z")

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> [@gytalf2000](#):
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> Well, if that’s true, ya can’t blame him. She’s gorgeous, and a good actress, to boot. The only problem is that the others are convinced that she was Lucifer’s stepmom. I don’t know how the writers are going to handle that. Or maybe they won’t; it might be best if they just never addressed the issue again. I dunno…

She’s gorgeous? OK, I mean there are 3, maybe 4 actress in the main cast better looking than her but OK. She is a good actress though. So it’s not too bad.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2017, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/94 "2017-12-06T20:57:13Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> She’s gorgeous? OK, I mean there are 3, maybe 4 actress in the main cast better looking than her but OK. She is a good actress though. So it’s not too bad.

Well, let’s face it – how often do you see unattractive women in starring roles on TV? Of course they are all at least reasonably attractive! I think that Maze is the hottest female character on the show, by the way…

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2017, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/95 "2017-12-06T21:01:35Z")

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> [@gytalf2000](#):
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> Well, let’s face it – how often do you see unattractive women in starring roles on TV? Of course they are all at least reasonably attractive! I think that Maze is the hottest female character on the show, by the way…

I agree with the first part, it is a TV show so none of the regulars on the show are unattractive.

I understand the second part, Maze is written and played as hot and she is hot looking. Myself, I like the cute one, Ella.

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**Author:** ![Tapiotar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@Tapiotar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapiotar)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/96 "2017-12-07T00:05:33Z")

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I think we are leading up to Lucifer discovering that he has a lot more powers other than discovering desires, as set up by Dr. Linda thinking that discovering desire is a pretty feeble angelic power, compared to stopping time or seeing the future. Lucifer has something else he has never discovered, because he has been fixated on desire and on punishment. Finding out what it is or they are could be interesting.

Maze has gone from superbadass to being very emotionally vulnerable…don’t know what I think of that. Lucifer can be insightful when he is forced to be, as he made Maze ask herself the right questions. I also don’t see the point of Tricia Helfer’s character, and I don’t have the hormonal bias in her favor. Dislike Pierce, who also seems pointless, unless he turns out to be the Sinnerman. Which, given the scapegoat’s reaction to him (“Do what you have to do”) makes it seem more likely.

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**Author:** ![Tapiotar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@Tapiotar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapiotar)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/97 "2017-12-07T00:08:46Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> I agree with the first part, it is a TV show so none of the regulars on the show are unattractive.
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> I understand the second part, Maze is written and played as hot and she is hot looking. Myself, I like the cute one, Ella.

I like that the men are hormone-stirring, too. Tom Ellis, D.B. Woodside is overall good, but his eyes are magnificent. The others are not bad. So much better than shows with ugly men married to beautiful women.

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2017, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/98 "2017-12-11T22:43:07Z")

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Hey, get ready for tonight’s episode : Lucifer, Season Three, Episode Ten (December 11, 2017) – “The Sin Bin” !

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/99 "2017-12-12T00:56:22Z")

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I didn’t think he was the Sinnerman until he gouged his eyes out. For some reason that was freaky-deaky enough that it convinced me.

I’m thinking that the Sinnerman doesn’t have anything to do with Lucifer’s wings coming back or other changes to his powers. Those things are happening for other reasons, possibly “Dad” is pleased with Lucifer’s personal growth? Sinnerman is just taking advantage of Lucifer’s uncertainty to claim the credit.

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/100 "2017-12-12T03:15:25Z")

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Shocking almost no matter me, Pierce is the Sinnerman. Though making him Kane/Cain was not what I expected, and is there a connection with the wings / Devil face?

Brian

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