# Lucifer, Season Three

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 2, 2017, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818 "2017-10-02T18:07:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/141 "2018-01-31T03:13:15Z")

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> [@pmwgreen](#):
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> Pretty good, but I wonder if the gang was Korean because the stunt crew was Korean, and the producers said “we need a fight scene and we need it fast.”

Wouldn’t be the first time. Sometimes it is a way of saying “thank you”, giving the stunt people an acting credit and possibly a boost to their episode payday.

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**Author:** ![Tapiotar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@Tapiotar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapiotar)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/142 "2018-01-31T13:28:56Z")

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Why does Cain want to die? I can understand wanting oblivion, but wouldn’t he just go to hell and relive killing his brother over and over again? It would be far worse than his life is now.

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**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/143 "2018-01-31T18:53:09Z")

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I think he should try the acid bath again. How exactly do you come back from that? Or a volcano? What would be left of you?

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/144 "2018-01-31T18:57:17Z")

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> [@Tapiotar](#):
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> Why does Cain want to die? I can understand wanting oblivion, but wouldn’t he just go to hell and relive killing his brother over and over again? It would be far worse than his life is now.

It has been stated that people only go to Hell if they believe that they deserve Hell. He may think that’s he’s had enough punishment by now.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/145 "2018-01-31T19:46:12Z")

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> [@control-z](#):
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> I think he should try the acid bath again. How exactly do you come back from that? Or a volcano? What would be left of you?

He started going into his theory - whatever bit had the most matter is what regrew/healed.

The Volcano took 6 months… I’m not exactly what ‘bit’ was left - I guess just his ash.

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/146 "2018-01-31T20:21:02Z")

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I’m betting that a trip to the center of the sun would do Cain in nicely. Of course, God could just yank him out and set the healing process into motion again.

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**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/147 "2018-01-31T20:48:51Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> He started going into his theory - whatever bit had the most matter is what regrew/healed.
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> The Volcano took 6 months… I’m not exactly what ‘bit’ was left - I guess just his ash.

Yeah I think he said “master molecule” or something. Seems to me his only chances are to make up with God or travel to another dimension for at least a change of pace.

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2018, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/148 "2018-02-05T19:35:12Z")

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Hey, there will be a new episode tonight!

Lucifer, Season Three, Episode Fourteen (February 5, 2018) – “My Brother’s Keeper”

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**Post date:** [February 5, 2018, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/149 "2018-02-05T21:14:19Z")

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> [@control-z](#):
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> I think he should try the acid bath again. How exactly do you come back from that? Or a volcano? What would be left of you?

Somewhere, someplace, there would be a Cain molecule. Toenail clipping, hair, whatever.  
Even dropped into the sun wouldnt work, if that was the case.

I didnt see the point behind chainsaw. Lucifer must have known it. Trying the hell steel was a good idea, however.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/150 "2018-02-06T03:55:00Z")

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So, Maze is perhaps not the best influence on Trixie?

I like Luci looking out for Miss Lopez - do no mess with the devil’s friends.

The between A and Cain/Pierce was fun. I liked that, other than being unstoppable, Cain was no match for an angel, even an unpowered one.

The show is better when Lucifer and Amenadiel are at odds, so glad we’re back to that. Do we know when Amenadiel tried to have Lucifer killed? It’s not ringing any bells, so I’m guessing that at least we didn’t know A was behind it?

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/151 "2018-02-06T04:23:25Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> So, Maze is perhaps not the best influence on Trixie?
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> I like Luci looking out for Miss Lopez - do no mess with the devil’s friends.
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> The between A and Cain/Pierce was fun. I liked that, other than being unstoppable, Cain was no match for an angel, even an unpowered one.
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> The show is better when Lucifer and Amenadiel are at odds, so glad we’re back to that. Do we know when Amenadiel tried to have Lucifer killed? It’s not ringing any bells, so I’m guessing that at least we didn’t know A was behind it?

YEs, Amenadiel tried to have Lucifer killed in season 1, when he realized proximity to Chloe made him vulnerable - it was the arc with the nearly dead detective using a gun provided by the x-husband, etc.

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/152 "2018-02-06T14:30:12Z")

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I loved Trixie’s scene with Ella and Maze. So cute!

The fight scene with Amenadiel and Cain was great! It seemed like Amenadiel was displaying at least slight superhuman strength, at times. I wonder…

It was nice to see Dr. Linda overcome her quite-justified fears regarding Charlotte. The subsequent therapy sessions should prove to be entertaining.

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**Author:** ![Tapiotar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@Tapiotar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapiotar)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/153 "2018-02-07T00:13:10Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> YEs, Amenadiel tried to have Lucifer killed in season 1, when he realized proximity to Chloe made him vulnerable - it was the arc with the nearly dead detective using a gun provided by the x-husband, etc.

Yes, Amenadiel brought Detective Douche’s partner back from the dead in order to get him to kill Lucifer. He did kill Lucifer, but Dad brought Lucifer back in order to deal with Mom, who escaped from hell.

They need to bring in better writers, or more consistent writers. Borrow some of the writers from The Good Place? The characterizations are all over the map, inconsistent, illogical. It seems to be getting worse as the seasons go on, making me thin that they have no overall plan in mind.

Cain and Amenadiel share the biggest sin, ie, lack of sense of humor. Same with Maze, and sometime Lucifer. They all take themselves too seriously.

Immortality doesn’t seem to be good, actually detrimental, for character development. An eternity of adolescent grudges and shoulder chips and obsessions is not a pretty thing.

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**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/154 "2018-02-07T02:25:52Z")

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> [@Tapiotar](#):
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> Yes, Amenadiel brought Detective Douche’s partner back from the dead in order to get him to kill Lucifer. He did kill Lucifer, but Dad brought Lucifer back in order to deal with Mom, who escaped from hell.

Don’t forget that Amenadiel was the one who arranged for the creation of Chloe in the first place, again “only the messenger,” no doubt.

> [@](#):
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> They need to bring in better writers, or more consistent writers. Borrow some of the writers from The Good Place? The characterizations are all over the map, inconsistent, illogical. It seems to be getting worse as the seasons go on, making me thin that they have no overall plan in mind.
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> Cain and Amenadiel share the biggest sin, ie, lack of sense of humor. Same with Maze, and sometime Lucifer. They all take themselves too seriously.
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> Immortality doesn’t seem to be good, actually detrimental, for character development. An eternity of adolescent grudges and shoulder chips and obsessions is not a pretty thing.

It’s the writers’ fault, as you point out, played for laughs but not that interesting. Don’t the credits state that the show is only “based on” Neil Gaiman’s characters?

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/155 "2018-02-27T16:50:33Z")

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Any opinions on last night’s episode – Lucifer, Season Three, Episode Fifteen (February 26, 2018) – “High School Poppycock”?

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**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/156 "2018-02-27T17:23:38Z")

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> [@gytalf2000](#):
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> Any opinions on last night’s episode – Lucifer, Season Three, Episode Fifteen (February 26, 2018) – “High School Poppycock”?

I thought it had some really cute moments (I loved the “prom date” at the end) but they kinda lost me when Chloe

…fired her gun at a metal fitting between her partner and a suspect.

Even by the loose standards of this show, that was a bit much. That could very easily have gone disastrously wrong.

Loved the dinner conversation with Linda, Todd, Maze, and Amenadiel, though. “I make my own toothpaste!”

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/157 "2018-02-27T20:01:37Z")

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> [@Infovore](#):
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> I thought it had some really cute moments (I loved the “prom date” at the end) but they kinda lost me when Chloe
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> …fired her gun at a metal fitting between her partner and a suspect.
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> Even by the loose standards of this show, that was a bit much. That could very easily have gone disastrously wrong.
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> Loved the dinner conversation with Linda, Todd, Maze, and Amenadiel, though. “I make my own toothpaste!”

You’re right, that was a bit foolhardy of Chloe!

And the blind date was both awkward and hilarious!

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/158 "2018-03-05T17:28:31Z")

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There will be a new episode airing tonight :  
Lucifer, Season Three, Episode Sixteen (March 5, 2018) – “Infernal Guinea Pig”

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**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/159 "2018-03-08T18:52:56Z")

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The case of the week was a yawn pretty much as usual, but all in all I thought it was a very entertaining episode. So now we know that Lucifer can just pop to hell and back at will, and insert souls in recently dead bodies with some degree of imprecision.

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**Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lucifer-season-three/797818/160 "2018-03-08T18:55:07Z")

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I find that I watch _Lucifer_ for the ongoing story arc and not the individual mysteries.

OTOH, I watch _iZombie_ for the crime of the week and not the story arc, which has just gotten stupid.

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