# Ludacris, rapper and avid supporter of Barack Obama

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [July 30, 2008, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263 "2008-07-30T19:01:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2008, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263/21 "2008-07-31T01:33:53Z")

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[QUOTE=What the … !!!]  
I’m more interested in the potential “Willie Horton” aspects of using this type of thing to warn voters about who some of Obama’s supporters are.  
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Warn them? About what?

“If Obama is elected, Ludacris will be appointed Secretary of HUD! Beware!”

I don’t get it.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2008, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263/22 "2008-07-31T03:32:06Z")

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There was the guy on death row who got executed who supported Obama. Does that count as better or worse?

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2008, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263/23 "2008-07-31T03:58:29Z")

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Danny Bonaduce supports John McCain.

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**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2008, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263/24 "2008-07-31T05:14:05Z")

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[QUOTE=What the … !!!]  
I already gave you that clearly Ludacris is not that man he knew when he was [working with him on AIDS awareness and calling him a “great talent”](http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/07/a-ludacris-obam.html) in order to be hip and attract the support of his fans.  
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Actually in that article you just provided, it DOES seem to show that Obama is aware of Ludacris’ lyrics and such. You just happened to cut the quote to a choice word, rather than finish that whole statement:

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> Obama recently told Rolling Stone magazine that Jay-Z and Ludacris are “great talents and great businessmen”.
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> “It would be nice if I could have my daughters listen to their music without me worrying they were getting bad images of themselves,” the candidate said.

-Obama there seems to state that YES, they’re talented and such, but he also states pretty clearly there that he isn’t in favor of his daughters listening to their music. So I think perhaps Obama IS aware of Luda’s lyrical content, and he obviously doesn’t approve of it.

That to me is a pretty cool thing, as it’s similar to my own stance with Rap music. Who am I to criticize another’s taste in music?  
I don’t mind listening to Rap, but I wouldn’t let my younger siblings or family member be exposed to it. It’s about personal responsibility in those cases.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2008, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263/25 "2008-07-31T12:19:26Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
[You tried that bullshit before and only embarrassed yourself.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=465128) Learn from your mistakes.  
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But…but…he’s only trying to do what’s best for Obama and the Demoncrats! It’s the same idea that the candidates should have listened to Sam and Moto and the rest if they REALLY wanted to get elected. Nothing but concern for the party, man!

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2008, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263/26 "2008-07-31T15:35:59Z")

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[QUOTE=VoluntaryPlan]  
I’d like Obama to apologize for the song if every white presidential candidate retroactively apologizes for Toby Keith.  
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Now, now, that’s a little harsh.

Lee Greenwood, on the other hand, is clearly a violation of the Geneva Conventions, and his continued freedom is an affront to all that is good and dear.

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2008, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263/27 "2008-07-31T17:20:30Z")

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Does the Obama campaign’s [denunciation and rejection](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7534736.stm) of the song impact whether one should use it to decide to vote for Obama now?

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**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2008, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263/28 "2008-08-01T03:19:05Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
[You tried that bullshit before and only embarrassed yourself.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=465128) Learn from your mistakes.  
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I’m not at all embarrased by that thread.

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**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2008, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263/29 "2008-08-01T03:20:50Z")

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[QUOTE=Gadarene]  
By “some of Obama’s supporters” do you mean “Ludacris”?  
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Both him and those who agree with the sentiments in the song.

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2008, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263/30 "2008-08-01T03:25:25Z")

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I’m interested in your comments on this video: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLQGWpRVA7o](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLQGWpRVA7o)

I don’t see any denouncing, even thogh he was right there and had every opportunity to take the high road.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2008, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263/31 "2008-08-01T03:25:53Z")

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[QUOTE=What the … !!!]  
Both him and those who agree with the sentiments in the song.  
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Obama doesn’t agree with the sentiments in that song. Why should people be warned that random nobodies like me have no objections to the song? Are conservatives really that upset that somebody called Hillary a bitch? Or is the “paint the White House black” thing that’s got all your panties up your cracks?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2008, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263/32 "2008-08-01T03:33:51Z")

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[QUOTE=What the … !!!]  
Both him and those who agree with the sentiments in the song.  
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That would include you, wouldn’t it? I can’t recall you saying anything good about HRC.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2008, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263/33 "2008-08-01T17:35:33Z")

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[QUOTE=What the … !!!]  
I’m not at all embarrased by that thread.  
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How 'bout this one?

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**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2008, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263/34 "2008-08-02T09:44:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Cervaise]  
How 'bout this one?  
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Not in the least bit.

BTW, feel free to go back to that thread (conveniently back on the first page) and note that **Brainy G** was the one who walked away from it.

Rev. Wright was and is an embarrasment. Obama, for the most part, got away with his supposedly candid assertions about what he knew and when he knew it.

I just don’t believe him… hopefully he’ll get a chance to convince us all again.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2008, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263/35 "2008-08-02T15:04:33Z")

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What do you suppose Obama really knew about Reverend Wright, and why isn’t it on any of those hundreds of hours of video taped sermons that Fox posses? They don’t have to speculate about what Obama heard from the pews. They have all the tapes. And yet, in all those years of lectures, all they could cobble together was four or five “controversial” statements, most of which Fox had to cut and paste out of context to make them sound offensive, and none of which were said in the presence of Barack Obama. None of them were racist.

So what exactly do you think that Obama “knew” about Jeremiah Wright that anyone should care about? For that matter, what do _you_ know about Wright that anyone should care about?

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2008, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263/36 "2008-08-02T17:34:24Z")

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[QUOTE=What the … !!!]  
Not in the least bit.  
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Ladies and gentlemen, the prosecution rests.

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**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263/37 "2008-08-04T02:10:52Z")

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[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]

So what exactly do you think that Obama “knew” about Jeremiah Wright that anyone should care about?  
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He knew enough to disinvite him from his coming out party at the last minute… which was months before the controversy hit the mainstream.

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**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263/38 "2008-08-04T02:11:56Z")

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[QUOTE=Cervaise]  
Ladies and gentlemen, the prosecution rests.  
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Very impressive!!!

Let me guess… you aren’t a prosecutor are you?

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**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263/39 "2008-08-04T02:17:02Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
That would include you, wouldn’t it? I can’t recall you saying anything good about HRC.  
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What I’ve ever said, or thought, really isn’t important… the rapper who Obama has spoken favorably of calls HRC a bitch and say McCain should be in a wheelchair.

That’s his opinion…I’m just happy to be able to point to that and suggest that it’s a good reason not to vote for Ludacris’ candidate.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263/40 "2008-08-04T02:27:27Z")

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[QUOTE=What the … !!!]  
He knew enough to disinvite him from his coming out party at the last minute… which was months before the controversy hit the mainstream.  
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I know this is one of Sean Hannity’s favorite talking points.

Obama disinvited him because of some things Wright had recently been quoted as saying in a Rolling Stone article (in which he basically called the US a racist country, but did not make any of the statements that Fox News cobbled together in its hate loop later), not because of anythinmg he’d heard in a sermon. Fox News has all the tapes of all the sermons that Obama attended. If Wright made racist or inflammatory statements while Obama was in attendence, why are they keeping it a secret?

In other words, Cite that Obama ever heard anything from Wright that he should have been especially concerned about?

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