# Ludacris, rapper and avid supporter of Barack Obama **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 30, 2008, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263 "2008-07-30T19:01:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263/41 "2008-08-04T02:30:54Z")
[QUOTE=What the … !!!] What I’ve ever said, or thought, really isn’t important… the rapper who Obama has spoken favorably of calls HRC a bitch and say McCain should be in a wheelchair. That’s his opinion…I’m just happy to be able to point to that and suggest that it’s a good reason not to vote for Ludacris’ candidate. [/QUOTE] I guess I’m still not clear on the concept. Why should I care what Ludacris thinks any more than I care what James Dobson thinks? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263/42 "2008-08-04T02:34:03Z")
[QUOTE=What the … !!!] What I’ve ever said, or thought, really isn’t important… the rapper who Obama has spoken favorably of calls HRC a bitch and say McCain should be in a wheelchair. [/quote] The “wheelchair” comment was a play on Bush being “mentally handicapped.” Besides, it’s a fucking rap song. It’s supposed to be hyperbolic. > [@](#): > > That’s his opinion…I’m just happy to be able to point to that and suggest that it’s a good reason not to vote for Ludacris’ candidate. You’ll have to explain why that’s a reason not to vote for him. Why is Obama responsible for what Ludacris says in a rap song? I like Mel Gibson as a movie director, does that mean I’m responsible for his anti-semitic statements? ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263/43 "2008-08-04T02:39:05Z")
[QUOTE=Frank] I guess I’m still not clear on the concept. Why should I care what Ludacris thinks any more than I care what James Dobson thinks? [/QUOTE] You don’t have to… very few Dopers will. Fortunately, many Average Hardworking Americans will. ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263/44 "2008-08-04T02:42:58Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] The “wheelchair” comment was a play on Bush being “mentally handicapped.” Besides, it’s a fucking rap song. It’s supposed to be hyperbolic. [/QUOTE] Too bad Obama decided it was good politics to call a Fucking Rapper a Great Talent then wasn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263/45 "2008-08-04T02:47:09Z")
[QUOTE=What the … !!!] You don’t have to… very few Dopers will. Fortunately, many Average Hardworking Americans will. [/QUOTE] You mean those hard working white people that Hillary was talking about? Guess what, anyone who would give a shit about this was already going to vote for McCain anyway. It’s an extremely lame issue that isn’t going to affect a single vote. It’s just more manufactured outrage. If you really want to play this game, though, McCain spoke well of and sought the endorsement of a guy who said that Hitler was fulfilling God’s will. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263/46 "2008-08-04T02:49:39Z")
[QUOTE=What the … !!!] Too bad Obama decided it was good politics to call a Fucking Rapper a Great Talent then wasn’t it? [/QUOTE] Why is that “too bad,” and what makes you think Obama doesn’t really believe it? Are you saying rappers can’t be talented? Ludacris is a lot more talented than clowns like Toby Keith, that’s for sure. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263/47 "2008-08-04T02:52:03Z")
[QUOTE=What the … !!!] Fortunately, many Average Hardworking Americans will. [/QUOTE] But why? Why, precisely, is some song by some musician a reason to not vote for Obama? And, for bonus points, how is that different in quality from a potential cabinet member referring to the Average Hardworking American as a “nation of whiners”? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263/48 "2008-08-04T02:54:53Z")
[QUOTE=What the … !!!] Too bad Obama decided it was good politics to call a Fucking Rapper a Great Talent then wasn’t it? [/QUOTE] You already know you’re taking this out of context. Why do you persist? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263/49 "2008-08-04T04:44:32Z")
[QUOTE=What the … !!!] What I’ve ever said, or thought, really isn’t important. [/QUOTE] I think we’ve found some common ground here. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263/50 "2008-08-04T04:57:17Z")
[QUOTE=What the … !!!] Too bad Obama decided it was good politics to call a Fucking Rapper a Great Talent then wasn’t it? [/QUOTE] I recall various previous presidents referring to Frank Sinatra as a great talent, although he appears to have had the morals of a tomcat and the self-control of a two-year-old along with a truly immature adulation of mob thugs. I would say that Sinatra had great talent, as well. I have no idea why a comment on a person’s artistic ability overlaps in any way with one’s judgment of their politics, morals, intelligence, or any other attribute. Do you have a valid reason to conflate artistic estimation with political estimation? Or are you simply trying to be snide without actually having a serious point? ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263/51 "2008-08-04T05:38:03Z")
Basically, IMO, for some folks, Ludacris is a reinforcement of what they’ve “known” all along: that Obama hates America and white people. They’ve already been judging him, as has been pointed out, by the company he keeps (Wright, Ayers, Rezko), so this is just another variant on the theme. And, as has already been pointed out, completely ignored when it’s someone like Dobson. But hey, we knew this would happen, considering how some bloggers were crowing about how much the terrorists luv them Democrats when they took over the House and Senate. ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263/52 "2008-08-04T11:24:31Z")
[QUOTE=VoluntaryPlan] I’d like Obama to apologize for the song if every white presidential candidate retroactively apologizes for Toby Keith. [/QUOTE] I’m no fan of Toby Keith or country music in general so I’m not familiar with his music. Did he write a song calling Michelle Obama a bitch and saying that the Boy Wonder should be in a wheel chair? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263/53 "2008-08-04T12:08:28Z")
[QUOTE=What the … !!!] Did he write a song calling Michelle Obama a bitch and saying that the Boy Wonder should be in a wheel chair? [/QUOTE] So, to join the chorus, what the hell is your point already? (I’m charitably assuming there is one.) Are you saying that Obama should have known two years ago that Ludacris was going to write this song and thus refrained from offering some boilerprint praise after meeting with him about youth issues? Are you saying Obama should tell Ludacris “don’t vote for me because you support me?” ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263/54 "2008-08-04T20:40:47Z")
[QUOTE=What the … !!!] Fortunately, many Average Hardworking Americans will. [/QUOTE] Why the caps? Is that some sort of organization? ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263/55 "2008-08-04T20:52:21Z")
Organization? AHA! ---
**Author:** ![whole\_bean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@whole\_bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whole_bean)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2008, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263/56 "2008-08-06T18:13:09Z")
[QUOTE=What the … !!!] I’m no fan of Toby Keith or country music in general so I’m not familiar with his music. Did he write a song calling Michelle Obama a bitch and saying that the Boy Wonder should be in a wheel chair? [/QUOTE] What if he did and he endorsed McCain? Would it matter? No. The answer is no. ---
**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2008, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263/57 "2008-08-07T11:52:52Z")
Slightly off topic but Ludacris sounds like a character from an old British Sitcom set in Roman times called Up Pompeii. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludacris-rapper-and-avid-supporter-of-barack-obama/458263.md?page=2)